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Princess Akmazara	Posted - 2003.07.20 13:50:00 - [1] I was going thru Dantumi in my bestower yesterday and was podded by M Hoshi of the Evolution company. He didnt say anything he just attacked me. I have only had this game a couple of weeks and I didn't do or say anything to him. This is supposed to be secure empire space. As far as I can tell this Evolution company is no better then m0o everyone should watch out! I only have 3-4 hours a week to play it will take me a few weeks to get a new ship IF I get one. I may just dump the game. I thought I was safe in empire space but apparently the concord police are incompetent. Killing a new player in a bestower in empire space is really a cheap shot I hope you are proud of yourself. My name is Carol if your wondering. You have to remember there are real people behind these ships. I guess being a m0o-clone is fun? Princess Akmazara House of Akbar Amarr Empire Edited by: Princess Akmazara on 20/07/2003 13:52:51
Old Hoshi	Posted - 2003.07.20 20:06:00 - [2] 0.4 = Anyones game, you we're a casulty of war, Get over it. Set a bounty on me, whatever but don't come here crying like a baby.
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2003.07.20 21:47:00 - [3] /me hugs Carol Edited by: MOOstradamus on 20/07/2003 21:47:38 MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
Princess Akmazara	Posted - 2003.07.20 22:16:00 - [4] What war I was minding my own business. Your nothing but a PK'er who kills new players you should be ashamed of yourself. Why don't you go to 1.0 space and pod people in new ships to? I mean that is your style isn't it? I looked in the war screen online I dont see your at war with Hedion University or anyone else. Like a pirate you don't declare war though you just pod people for no reason right? Your nothing but an insolent little child if you were my kid you'd get a good swat on the arse! I read about the m0o people (after I got here they were already gone) and your just like them. You people are NOT honorable at all you are nothing but PK'ers! No one should do business with PK pirates from EVOLUTION - boycott EVOLUTION today! Set their corp to war setting so you don't get attacked for no reason! Carol
Princess Akmazara	Posted - 2003.07.20 22:21:00 - [5] Thank you MOOstradamus I could use a hug. I don't have time to play all the time I'm raising two kids on my own and its tough. This game is supposed to be a break for me my boyfriend plays it (hes in RUS and from Vladivostok). It will take me a couple of weeks to get a new bestower. I thought empire space was supposed to be safe from the PK pirates but clearly it is not. Podding people for new reason and calling it a "casualty of war" when there is no war? Just like PK'ers they don't talk or look who someones is with they just pod them for no reason. EVOLUTION is no better then any other PK'ers in the game. They should be ashamed at being so dishonorable! I had never heard of EVOLUTION corporation but clearly they have been sitting around planning this attack on all the free people of empire space. They are dangerous and dishonorable! Thanks again MOOstramus! /me hugs you back. Carol Edited by: Princess Akmazara on 20/07/2003 22:21:42
Dakkon	Posted - 2003.07.20 22:53:00 - [6] /me hands out a tissue
Old Hoshi	Posted - 2003.07.20 22:53:00 - [7] <<Your nothing but an insolent little child if you were my kid you'd get a good swat on the arse!>> Wow, your psychic! You deduced that i'm a child, and i'm insolent OOC simply by getting podded? Thats a class talent love - should make you some decent money. Time to take a step back this is a G A M E - insulting people OOC is a bit childish mmmk?
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2003.07.20 23:14:00 - [8] since akmazara is in the business of making stuff up i figure ill join in. akmazara is a pirate. akmazara only plays this game to grief people. akmazara is good at eve. akmazara is a strong person with solid backbone. akmazara is not afraid of doing some work. akmazara will succeed in the universe of eve, because she will not be forced to give up. PHEW, THAT WAS FUN. irl: bye bye, and you have permission to bill evolution for your chipped nail. Edited by: Homo Erectus on 20/07/2003 23:16:06
Letifer Deus	Posted - 2003.07.20 23:27:00 - [9] wow your a real cool homo. I am the OG PIIIIIMP
Sequin	Posted - 2003.07.20 23:40:00 - [10] Can't you just feel how much I don't care Ms. Princess? Edit: Refering to the loss of your ship, yarr. Edited by: Sequin on 20/07/2003 23:43:18 Edited by: Sequin on 20/07/2003 23:45:54 ^A Raem Civre Original EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original. [i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork! b] We are evil exploiters!
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2003.07.21 01:16:00 - [11] Princess Akmazara, Hegemonic Core will provide you with a replacement bestower as an act of goodwill. Just contact me ingame. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Ross	Posted - 2003.07.21 08:28:00 - [12] Beat me to it Primer Xenius, good chappy :) At least there are still some decent people in the game to help newbies get back on their feet. Unfortuantly, Princess Akmazara Empire space is not really that secure. Your best indication of how safe an area of space is to check the security level of the system, and also check the "Amount of ships destroyed in the last 24 hours" on the map screen. That way you can usually see danger before you reach it. If you need any help in-game, feel free to evemail me. :) Edited by: Ross on 21/07/2003 08:28:56
PoPa	Posted - 2003.07.21 08:45:00 - [13] lol Wait a second now it looks to me like your BOTH *****ing. PoPa
Princess Akmazara	Posted - 2003.07.21 14:06:00 - [14] Thank you Primer I don't know what to say you have made me very happy. I will contact you. :) Also you Ross for your offer. :) It is good to know there are some people playing who don't try to ruin it for new players just for jollies. The comments about "how much I care" and "chipped nail" show the maturity of the posters. By the way Homo what exactly did I "make up" they haven't said anything I said was a lie. They podkilled me in a Bestower in empire space for no reason with no warning. They can't even claim they were pirates they didnt ask for anything. They are just PK'ers. I'll start calling them m0o2. I have to believe people who act like jerks (for lack of a better word)in a "game" are like this in real life too. With all the people in the world who don't care about anyone else but themselves I guess you know exactly what I mean. Kids like this are the reason I got out of teaching in the first place. Since you don't care about ruining my gaming experience I suppose if you do this to new players all the time and they quit the game you'll just pick up their subscriptions so EVE doesn't go under right? I noticed no one from Evolution bothered to oppose anything I said. The PK'er even admitted podding me and called me a casualty of some war? I guess EVOLUTION really is a pirate corp that doesn't care about anyone. I would encourage all the CEO's to set them to TERRIBLE status so you can know when they are around and run. They could sneak attack you at any minute too! Carol Edited by: Princess Akmazara on 21/07/2003 14:09:18
ReapZ	Posted - 2003.07.21 14:47:00 - [15] Carol Petition CCP to remove weapons altogether that might improve your gaming experience? --------------------------------- Keep this thread clean. - Orestes
Uzael	Posted - 2003.07.21 14:55:00 - [16] Ok, now I can tell your ***ed but look at it from the stand point of the games design. I play on the side of good and I enjoy it but the pirates provide me with a way to make money and they provide a service to the systems they inhabit by destroying convoys to get BP's and other things that would not make the market unless they went and got them. It is impossible for a player with a positive (if he wants to stay positive) sec rating to get some of the items in the game, they would never make it to the market without the pirates. So in their own twisted way they do contribute to the game in a big way. Comming on here an cussing them is like saying "Dont play the game the way you choose." which is basically saying they should'nt have the freedom that makes this game what it is. Now if they were using exploits then thats a diffrent story. But if its a clean kill with no cheating then it should be marked up as a loss to pirates, it happens to everyone (fortunately not me yet) and it should be understood it is part of this game. I mean they are pirates, what do you want them to do? Ask nicely for your stuff? Given your temper you prolly wouldnt have given it to them anyways... So you would be right where you are now. Personally I think its stupid for people to get so upset over a game that they would come and insult a real person over it, its the sign of poor character and a sore loser. You want to get them? You wanna make them pay? Be more careful, get yourself built up and go and take your revenge, cussing them on here does no good and makes you look as childish as you say they are. Edited by: Uzael on 21/07/2003 14:56:05* Edited by: Uzael on 21/07/2003 15:07:14 -------------- UZAEL
Ductus	Posted - 2003.07.21 16:41:00 - [17] ok, now I am not a fan of PKers myself. I work just as hard as anyone to get my ships. here's the point, you know PKing is a part of the game right? It shouldn't be a suprise that you know there are pirates out there and if you run into them expect to be attacked/podded. it happens and its a part oft he game. Yes it sucks when you lose something you worked hard for, but there are signs to can take such as using your map browser and looking at the sec levels of the space you're in. I've been podded. Oh well, its part of the game and it keeps it interesting and fun.
Princess Akmazara	Posted - 2003.07.21 21:31:00 - [18] Edited by: Princess Akmazara on 21/07/2003 21:45:57 " You want to get them? You wanna make them pay? Be more careful, get yourself built up and go and take your revenge, cussing them on here does no good and makes you look as childish as you say they are." I would but I can only play 4-5 hours a week how much can I build up in that time? I'm not cussing at them I'm showing the world what type of people they are. Even my general comment about people acting like jerks in a game being jerks in real life wasn't directed at them it was a general comment. Yes I do know that PK'ing is part of the game by pirates. The problem is these people are not pirates they are "murderers". A pirate would have asked me for money or my cargo not just killed me for no reason. I can live with losing my ship to a real pirate that sounds like a fun experience as far as roleplaying goes. These guys aren't even that. " I mean they are pirates, what do you want them to do? Ask nicely for your stuff? Given your temper you prolly wouldnt have given it to them anyways" I would've tried to but I never had the chance I was dead before I knew what was happening. If he was so honorable he would've at least waited. I'm sure my bestower was no match for his ship. I have no temper but I expect people to play with some kindness and responsibility if this is indeed only roleplaying. I didn't know role-playing a senseless murder was part of this game? That is when the line is crossed between PvP and just PK'ing people for the fun of it. I thought empire space was safe from all those patch notes I've been reading. I figured these people had to stay in the outer areas. Instead I warped to a gate and was down to almost no armor or hull by the time I loaded. Sounds like fair PvP doesn't it? "Petition CCP to remove weapons altogether that might improve your gaming experience?" That won't be necessary. You can't make people play fair as I've learned. I'm not some power gamer who is online all the time I'm just a 30-something lady trying to have some fun. From the detailed economy in the game I assumed economy was an important part of the game? I've lost a bestower to an NPC pirate after warping to a planet (just looking around) and going afk and being killed at this platform thing by Guritas pirates. Now that was my fault and I accept that. Killing someone when they warp in and aren't even finished loading yet is an "I don't care about anyone else" act that shows what type of real person the player is. It sure isn't being a good sport. If you say that doesn't matter then I think you've said it all about your character. I am proud to be a "carebear" (great term) who plays the economy and makes friends. If I had known there were murderers in the game it would have helped. Now I know and I will watch out for people who do stuff like this. Where was CONCORD police is my question? Carol
Beenthere	Posted - 2003.07.21 23:22:00 - [19] There is two sides to this thing, I believe it's wrong to go in and hunt n00bs, in the long run that hurts your own gaming. Because you will **** these people off and they will stop playing. But then again this is a PVP game, if you go out there you have to be careful. I do not like Evelution and I think those people are all making up what they lack between their legs with trying to kill people in game. So just be careful out there and remember there are a lot of corps out there getting together to take care of people like this.
Revolution	Posted - 2003.07.22 05:37:00 - [20] I despise being called a pirate corp, we are nothing of the kind. get your facts right pls.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2003.07.22 11:55:00 - [21] Quote: I despise being called a pirate corp, we are nothing of the kind. Mind explaining why your members mindlessly kill traders then? "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Revolution	Posted - 2003.07.22 11:57:00 - [22] Our actions are our own business.
Syme	Posted - 2003.07.22 12:16:00 - [23] Princess, what I don't understand is where you got the idea that 0.4 systems were safe. There will always be criminals and murderers about, but maybe they were republican terrorists.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2003.07.22 12:20:00 - [24] Due to the complete lack of sympathy from your members over the killing of a peaceful trader and your unwillingness to provide any explanation, its impossible to conclude anything but the fact that you belong to a corporation endorsing piracy (hence a pirate corp). "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Uzael	Posted - 2003.07.22 12:42:00 - [25] Edited by: Uzael on 22/07/2003 12:45:28 Its funny how everyone acts so tough on here but wont throw down in space. You guys can come in and endlessly bash anyone who attacks ANYONE in the game. But wheres the balls in that? I havent seen ANY of you tough guys challange evolution, just snipe from a safe distance. It might ** you off but why do you have to come here to settle it? Put your money where your mouth is I say! This kind of bull** is what has me looking to leave the legit corp Im with in favor of a pirate corp, at least THEY are having fun and enjoying the freedom this game has to offer. All the legit people do is cry about Non-aggression pacts and how everyone who would kill a player is a griefer, well Ill tell ya what, if I were a pirate I would scan your ship, if you have what I want I would tear your ship open like a paper bag and take it. Then I too would come here and watch as you bashed me on the forums instead of doing what you should. Working to come to the battle stronger next time. Why does everyone think this ISNT a PVP game???????? ALSO, Does anyone remember when M0o got beat by an alliance????? I can show the posts where they responded to the gloating by the "LEGIT" players. All they had to say was "We met in space and their pilots were better, congrats on a well fought battle." But they are all GRIEFERS Huh? Heres what I think, I think this game is populated by about 75% sore losers and children. -------------- UZAEL
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2003.07.22 13:10:00 - [26] Uzael, why on earth would anyone outside this incident want to resort to war? I'm pointing out one inconsistency made regarding a statement involving piracy and only bothered doing so because I saw them all taking shoots at the victim. If I see nonsense I disagree with, IÆll point it out. Finally, its attitude like yours Uzael, namely warring over the most insignificant issues, which puts many corps into total stagnation. The powerhouses ingame for the large part ignore piracy because itÆs insignificant and it does not affect them. The pirates could not hold a single system if the free trading corps decided to give a damn. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Uzael	Posted - 2003.07.22 14:01:00 - [27] Im not talking about war, If you would pay attention Im talking about them bashing the person who killed her. Were they present for the incident? No I think not. So what right do you or them have to make assumptions as to what happened? Or call names for that matter? Yeah shes on here screaming about getting killed and throwing this big sob story around, but how do you know what really happened? How do you know she's even a SHE? And now that I have taken to their defense because of pointless bashing (of an incident that NO ONE but her and her attacker witnessed) you start accussing me of "warring over every little thing" did I even use the word war? No I didnt, what I was saying was this. If you have the nerve to talk smack about someone on here why dont you do it to their face? Its very easy to come on here and gang up on someone cause you dont have to face them. And still they are level headed enough to say "Its our bussiness what we do." pretty much sums it up to me. In other words why do you people feel the need to butt in and start trashing someone even though you were not there? The answer You Don't. -------------- UZAEL
Princess Akmazara	Posted - 2003.07.22 14:36:00 - [28] "So what right do you or them have to make assumptions as to what happened? Or call names for that matter? Yeah shes on here screaming about getting killed and throwing this big sob story around, but how do you know what really happened? How do you know she's even a SHE?" Well to be honest you only have my word for the SHE part. The PK'er did admit killing me if you look back at his post (the one where he called me a casualty of war). "0.4 = Anyones game, you we're a casulty of war, Get over it." No one from EVOLUTION has denied any part of my story. They probably have PK'ed so many people they lost track? Anyway I have screenshots of the e-mail I was sent regarding the loss of my ship and that PK'ing murderer was listed. It was him although to be honest I couldn't tell because I was virtually dead by the time I loaded the system. I admit I made a mistake thinking .4 space was safe. After reading all the posts about the patch I assumed anywhere in empire space was safe and I was in empire space. "Why does everyone think this ISNT a PVP game????????" Because it isn't? Its a simulation of life in space in the future. Look at the market and research economy. PvP is just a part of this game to make it more "realistic" it is HARDLY the focus of it. If it was a PvP game the combat stuff would be alot more detailed and the player would have more control. I've killed some NPC pirates with a punisher I borrowed and it was very point and shoot. "But they are all GRIEFERS Huh?" From what I read they were podding newbie players in the 1.0 space everytime they undocked from a station. I wonder how many of those people brought the game back. I wasn't playing then but I know I would have quit if everytime I undocked I got killed. I also read they would blockade systems and instead of asking for money like a real pirate they would just kill you for no reason then reveal in it. What do you call that? PvP? "This kind of bull*** is what has me looking to leave the legit corp Im with in favor of a pirate corp, at least THEY are having fun and enjoying the freedom this game has to offer."* I have alot of fun finding good trade routes, talking to people in chat and visiting all the fancy systems. Mindless killing isn't part of my gameplay. Tell you what, you can enjoy your game anyway you like as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else and I will too. Oh wait, being a mindless killer involves interfering with someone doesn't it? I started this thread to expose the EVOLUTION corp as PK'ers. They have yet to deny this and have admitted to podding me for no reason. The post "our business is our own" shows they feel they have to answer to no one. I think if they are happy being PK'ers they should be proud of it and proclaim it. I mean people should know what they are all about right? I mean what are the security ratings of their members? Carol
Angelica Krem	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:56:00 - [29] Edited by: S'he Lyricsin on 22/07/2003 16:12:53 I started this thread to expose the EVOLUTION corp as PK'ers. They have yet to deny this and have admitted to podding me for no reason. The post "our business is our own" shows they feel they have to answer to no one. Our business is our own, we are not pirates and frankly we dont care if you call us PK'ers. Yes we podded you, but we have not admitted that we did it for no reason, but our business is our own. We dont owe you any explanation for the actions we decide to take. But i think that all this is mute since you have received an answer and you have even quoted it. You were a casuality of war. As to the "they feel they have to answer to no one" comment, who should we answer to? You? Or is there maybe a review board of unfriendly player killing somewhere? and if yes then under what authority do they claim that title? But I will ask you this, since you name us as a mindless corp of PK'ers, how many pilots have we mindlessly killed? Besides your glorious person offcourse...
ReapZ	Posted - 2003.07.22 19:06:00 - [30] Princess These remarks if they were addressed at Evolution are complete fiction: "From what I read they were podding newbie players in the 1.0 space everytime they undocked from a station. I wonder how many of those people brought the game back. I wasn't playing then but I know I would have quit if everytime I undocked I got killed. I also read they would blockade systems and instead of asking for money like a real pirate they would just kill you for no reason then reveal in it. What do you call that? PvP?" --------------------------------- Keep this thread clean. - Orestes

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