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dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:45:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:Who's the real carebear? The guy who uses game mechanics to his advantage, or the guy who cries on the forums about not being able to do whatever he wants, without a counter?
I'll say the guy whining when ccp fixes corp jumping is the real carebear. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:07:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Dante Uisen wrote:Rex Aparte wrote:I find it so funny that people are a. proud of their "wardecs" and b. surprised when their foe doesn't want to fight, and cry about it all day long on the forums. As someone smarter than me said, go ahead and wardec the best hisec merc alliance. I guarantee you they won't try and get out of it. But then again, that won't give you the easymode free kills you're looking for. Then it would you docking up and dissolving your corp instantly. Cry. Moar. I'm not sure we are playing the same game, eve online is supposedly taking place in a cold and harsh universe, it should be possible to wardec player run corporations. you have wardecs. enjoy.
It's nothing more then a corporation dueling option, where you are allowed to refuse the invitation. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:53:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:The price for Tritanium used to be as low as 3-4 ISKs not too long ago and only now with the increased player numbers beginning with December is the price for it slowly decreasing again. It is just a few weeks ago when one could sell billions of Tritanium for more than 6 ISKs per unit. The price is slowly decreasing and it is staying below the 6 ISKs mark now.
3-4 isk trit has not been seen since the end or 2011 start of 2012, that was when the trit prices started to grow, and was in the last quarter of 2012 the sell price started to stabilized around 6 to 6.3.
But the supply also seemed to stabilize, which would explain why the price did the same. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:25:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:dexington wrote:3-4 isk trit has not been seen since the end or 2011 start of 2012, that was when the trit prices started to grow, and was in the last quarter of 2012 the sell price started to stabilized around 6 to 6.3.
But the supply also seemed to stabilize, which would explain why the price did the same. When you look at the volumes for Tritanium in The Forge (Jita) then you will see a small increase in the volumes, which runs pretty much in parallel with the player numbers as seen on Chribba's EVE-Offline website. One can see the increase in volume either in the market history when in The Forge or in the 180-day history on EVE-Markets.net.
Try setting the history to 540 days on eve-markets.net. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:23:00 -
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It should be harder til avoid a wardec, and it should be more expensive to start a war. Increase the consequence of both parties. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.28 09:17:00 -
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It's absurd to try and compare the brokers fee to the cost of starting a war, you might as well compare the sound of blue to the smell of yellow, they are after all both colors so if should be easy to compare.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:05:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:cry, cry, cry
Do you have any idea how stupid it makes you sounds when you repeat the same word over and over?, and no add in the occasional 'whine' is not helping. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:30:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:So apparently, when people "pvp" with noobs and carebears through wardecs, there are exploits that need to be fixed. But when real pvpers want to pvp with fake pvpers it's just "an option, where you are allowed to refuse the invitation". Tell me why I should take anything you say seriously?
Do you know what non-consensual pvp means?, it's kind of one of the core elements of eve. I guess you are one of players who need special treatment because eve is to hard, so please don't talk about being taken serious.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:56:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:Ah, non consensual pvp. To me that means forcing pvp onto someone regardless of consequences, like ganking - which is a great element of eve. Just say what you really want, non consequential pvp. Why gank, when if I got my way I could trap all those people I would have had to gank into a never ending "war" that has no downside for me. There will always be a counter.
Ganking will always be an option, but in hi-sec concord will defend you if attacked, that system is working pretty well.
When you decide to leave the NPC corporations and start or join a player run corporation, you abandon the wardec protection that the NPC corporations provide, this is to some degree comparable with leaving hi-sec. You don't need to pay the npc tax, you can set up pos, form and alliance etc., but it comes at the cost of being legit war target of other players.
Currently the system is not working, and it is just as broken as the old bounty system. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
dexington
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:27:00 -
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Rex Aparte wrote:dexington wrote:Rex Aparte wrote:Ah, non consensual pvp. To me that means forcing pvp onto someone regardless of consequences, like ganking - which is a great element of eve. Just say what you really want, non consequential pvp. Why gank, when if I got my way I could trap all those people I would have had to gank into a never ending "war" that has no downside for me. There will always be a counter. Ganking will always be an option, but in hi-sec concord will defend you if attacked, that system is working pretty well. When you decide to leave the NPC corporations and start or join a player run corporation, you abandon the wardec protection that the NPC corporations provide, this is to some degree comparable with leaving hi-sec. You don't need to pay the npc tax, you can set up pos, form and alliance etc., but it comes at the cost of being legit war target of other players. Currently the system is not working, and it is just as broken as the old bounty system. Ok, that was very respectable so I shall be too. In my opinion, it should not be called wardec, it should be called "bribe". I haven't seen one person in this thread that didn't at least allude that what it is, is a bribe to look the other way. So lets just cut out all the bs and call it "Bribe Concord". You want to force pvp onto someone without losing your ship, bribe Concord. The counter for this will be the same button. The corp that is under attack can also "Bribe Concord" to once again protect them. Why would this option not work?
I guess some sort of bribe system could work, it would add a lot more consequence for both parties, and could also solve the problem with griefing being to easy or people being trapped in endless wars. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
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