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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6996
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:05:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Lies, all lies.
"White" boards are a tool for people with no interior design instincts whatsoever and would never be seen inside our stylish offices.
Our boards are all "eggshell" and we are a much better company as a result.
You'd be a much better company if you dropped that dry erase nonsense and used chalk.
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Alara IonStorm
4429
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:11:00 -
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Andski wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Lies, all lies.
"White" boards are a tool for people with no interior design instincts whatsoever and would never be seen inside our stylish offices.
Our boards are all "eggshell" and we are a much better company as a result. You'd be a much better company if you dropped that dry erase nonsense and used chalk.
The best companies tattoo their idea's on them for presentations. That way only the really, really good idea's get through. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3703
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Lies, all lies.
"White" boards are a tool for people with no interior design instincts whatsoever and would never be seen inside our stylish offices.
Our boards are all "eggshell" and we are a much better company as a result. You'd be a much better company if you dropped that dry erase nonsense and used chalk.
Chalk dust and technology do not mix.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6996
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:33:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Andski wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Lies, all lies.
"White" boards are a tool for people with no interior design instincts whatsoever and would never be seen inside our stylish offices.
Our boards are all "eggshell" and we are a much better company as a result. You'd be a much better company if you dropped that dry erase nonsense and used chalk. Chalk dust and technology do not mix.
A loss worth the authority expressed by the man who best wields his chalk.
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3704
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:41:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Andski wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Lies, all lies.
"White" boards are a tool for people with no interior design instincts whatsoever and would never be seen inside our stylish offices.
Our boards are all "eggshell" and we are a much better company as a result. You'd be a much better company if you dropped that dry erase nonsense and used chalk. Chalk dust and technology do not mix. A loss worth the authority expressed by the man who best wields his chalk.
For those that believe "wielding chalk" expresses authority the better option would be to simply chisel their presentation into a stone tablet. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
21 Day Trial
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:35:00 -
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they're working on a pink scorpion too, i seen it ma self. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffzwroDldBQ |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation
Black Core Alliance
273
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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:27:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I thought CCP head quarters was a cave in Iceland. Just to get out of the cold. You might find a fire near the entrance but no whiteboards in there. That is why they rent servers in England. And have offices in other places that are not so much like Antarctica.  It's true. The current weather forecast should give you an idea of how bad it is. Last night they were warning about the possible frost bite you could get if you went outside without proper clothing.
Still nothing compared to northern Minnesota. Try -50C for a few days on end.
Maybe with enough global warming the Gulf Stream will re-direct itself and Iceland will know what cold really is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
Carniflex
StarHunt
43
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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:46:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
How is that too cold? -12 is not as bad as the -30 that russia gets sometimes :s
When I was in the army I was in a patrol duty with -35 C and light blizzard. It was uncomfortable. Also after the patrol tour was over the clip had frozen into my machinegun and it was quite a undertaking to get it to separate from there. For saefty reasons we were supposed to not go into the barracks with loaded guns.
Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!*
GOT the bastard. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
Existential Anxiety
171
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:08:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:I suppose that the fighters carried by the supercarriers would technically be corvettes... maybe. Naah. A corvette would be heavier armed, but about the same level of protection, and slower. Meaning: Effectively useless. Historically, Corvettes were ASW escorts, weaker than destroyers in all respects - speed, firepower, and survivability. Basically, if you could put a popgun on a shuttle, you'd have a corvette.
Historically, a corvette was a ship built by the Terran nation of France in pre-spacetravel nation-state days. The class was first coined during a period in which water-going vessels were powered by atmospheric pressure variances. It was smaller than a frigate, had lighter armament, and was built for operation in shallow coastal waters. Similar to the sloop and brig (also shallow-water vessels), they could be operated up rivers and such with ocean-inlets.
Later the classification fell from favor, but was revived during a period of extended, intensified global warfare on old Earth, given to mass-produced, lightly armed ships intended for sub-hunting. They were not 'useless'...corvettes presented one of several changes to convoy strategy that ended up all but finishing off the unrestricted anti-shipping tactics employed at the time. I'm sure the Goons could tell you that logistics, even in this modern age of internet spas-ships, is a vital factor in their efforts, and I'm sure protecting their supply-chains is one of several vital fleet missions.
I'm curious to see what role a 'corvette' would fill in Eve, that isn't already occupied by some current class, without inventing a whole new task for them to accomplish. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2330
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:26:00 -
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Just as an FYI, the fighter-bombers were in the TQ database as "Corvette" for a long time before they were released. I don't know if they had planned a "Corvette" class and then later decided it was too much work and ended up just using those models for fighter bombers, or if that was the plan all along. I do know that the concept of corvettes has been bounced around in F&I at least since I started playing.
Who knows... maybe someone at CCP is looking at buying the new stingray and was workshopping it...
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Alara IonStorm
4449
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Posted - 2013.03.07 22:50:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Historically, Corvettes were ASW escorts, weaker than destroyers in all respects - speed, firepower, and survivability.
Destroyers were not actually used for Sub Hunting they were often shoehorned into the role, though they did screen fleets.
The problem with using Destroyers in WW2 against subs was simple, old subs were slow and even slower underwater. Destroyers actual role was an extension of the Torpedo Boat. Armor not having hitpoints in real life had to be broken through and a large Cruiser or Battleship had large belts of armor, to break this shell you needed a powerful impact or explosion. A gun big enough to fire a round that size needed a certain size of hull making bigger ships dominant.
To solve this construction race a new device called a torpedo was created, a mine affixed to a lance to be rammed into a ship hull. After realizing the ACME method was as impractical as it was suicidal the self propelled torpedo was created with a screw affixed to the rear of the mine.
Early Torpedo Boats were small, one good hit spelled doom. They had a low waterline (stability at sea), low fuel reserves (limited range) and a paper hull (weak). All of which meant their use on the high seas was limited. To fix this the concept of the Torpedo Boat Destroyer was introduced. Armored to take shell hits, has a defensive array of guns to fight off small escorts, large engines to propel the craft and a larger hull for sea stability and range. This allowed them to take their torpedo's to the enemy. Torpedo Boats became a coastal type defense ship where destroyers took over fleets.
The Destroyers role changed around WW2 to also provide AA and ASW defense like most ships in the fleet. While relatively cheap all these features made them more expensive and none of them were a serious boon to ASW. They were faster then they needed to be to catch subs, they had more guns then needed to sink a surfaced sub and their armor while strong was not near strong enough to stop a torpedo impact.
Now Corvettes and Chasers were good ships for hunting but in blue water like the old torpedo boats they were limited in stability and range. Enter an old standard, the 40 cannon sail Frigate had long since gone the way of the dinosaur with turret wielding, screw propelled Cruisers taking their place as light warships. WW2 saw their reintroduction by the British as a smaller stripped down Destroyer with no torpedo tubes, slow engines and more ASW armament.
Currently ship designation makes little difference, most Warships have a small main gun, anti-ship missiles, anti-air missiles, close support guns, torpedo's and depth charges all rolled into one. Ship size doesn't matter so much in designation since every nation designates ships based on different criteria most of which have the same multipurpose role.
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Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
303
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:04:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:I had hoped they would rename Rookie Ships Corvette's for a while because Rookie Ship sounds silly. I can not complain about a new ship class though.
What purpose would ships smaller than frigates serve? In my opinion, there's plenty of room for variation within existing ship sizes, no need to add more. Please quote me properly. When I said I wanted a new ship class I wanted them to get rid of Rookie Ships and introduce Corvettes. But if CCP gives it to a whole new type, and leaves rookie ships as they are, I would not complain. By the way the purpose a ship smaller then a Frigate serves would be a Rookie Ship, hint, hint.
Not true at all. A ship smaller than a frigate COULD be a rookie ship, but I could see this having performance issues. They want rookie ships to at least have some semblance of firepower and tanking ability. If you had something smaller than a rookie ship, I would assume iy to finally fill a scout classification for ships, or even better (harder to hit) interceptors, that traded off most of their firepower capabilities for faster speeds and even smaller tanks. |
Alara IonStorm
4449
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:09:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:
Not true at all. A ship smaller than a frigate COULD be a rookie ship, but I could see this having performance issues. They want rookie ships to at least have some semblance of firepower and tanking ability. If you had something smaller than a rookie ship, I would assume iy to finally fill a scout classification for ships, or even better (harder to hit) interceptors, that traded off most of their firepower capabilities for faster speeds and even smaller tanks.
The Scouting Role is pretty well covered, a faster weaker version probably wouldn't change EVE in a big way since even T1 Attack ships can break 6km a second with 2 second align. Not much more speed is really needed for scouting after that. If you need a safer scout then that there are even invisible ships that can handle it. |
Celly Smunt
Viziam
Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2013.03.07 23:53:00 -
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Ayame Tao wrote:*grabs large stick*
Corvettes will be introduced in Dust 514 as a command craft that can be used to get Mercenaries into orbit, and into EVE proper.
Whilst Mercenaries won't be able to fly other ships, Corvettes will allow them to interact more closely with EVE players and eventually transport them to stations where EVE and Dust avatars can intermingle.
*stirs vigorously*
*bake for 20 minutes at gas mark 5*
wait....
this could work........
I could take my dust merc, fly to a station.....
meet my EvE self.......
and have a conversation about CCP conspiracy theories while being able to look at the issue from both perspectives.
o/
Celly
Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal.
Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular.
Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself.
A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Celly Smunt
Viziam
Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2013.03.08 00:04:00 -
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Calathorn Virpio wrote:lol, i can't think of a time when Texas went into the negatives.....then again, yesterday it was already 90F, i predict another triple digit summer
Grew up in south Texas and been to Houston a few times over the past 2 years, triple digits each time and I still have (insert humor comment about being baked here) family there.
still have some 120+ degree photos of the car's temperature readout in the shade with the A/C "on"
o/
Celly
Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal.
Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular.
Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself.
A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
YuuKnow
Planetary Purchasing
674
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Posted - 2013.03.08 00:19:00 -
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Not sure why in the future everyone is still stuck on 20th century aquatic navy termonology.
Corvettes? really? Might as well call them 'swoops'
yk |
Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
307
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Posted - 2013.03.08 00:53:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Not sure why in the future everyone is still stuck on 20th century aquatic navy termonology.
Corvettes? really? Might as well call them 'swoops'
yk
galleon master race.
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
305
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:16:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Not sure why in the future everyone is still stuck on 20th century aquatic navy termonology.
Corvettes? really? Might as well call them 'swoops'
yk
Naval Tradition. You are playing a game where it is still a core aspect. Many Caldari ships are named after marine birds, and other flighted predators. Many Gallente ships are named after creatures of mythology. Why are you not questioning why everyone in the future is stuck on naming conventions based on 2nd and 3rd and 4th century and so on characters and animals?
You make a very poor case.
tmyk |
Alara IonStorm
4457
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:33:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:
Naval Tradition. You are playing a game where it is still a core aspect. Many Caldari ships are named after marine birds, and other flighted predators. Many Gallente ships are named after creatures of mythology. Why are you not questioning why everyone in the future is stuck on naming conventions based on 2nd and 3rd and 4th century and so on characters and animals?
You make a very poor case.
tmyk
That is why I liked the old Scorpion design, it looks like it was made by someone who has only a passing idea what a Scorpion is. All those creatures the Caldari name their ships after are probably mythological to them or perhaps they think the fictional creatures were real.
The names are probably not what we think they are either, they are in entirely new languages. |
Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
245
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Posted - 2013.03.08 09:24:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Not sure why in the future everyone is still stuck on 20th century aquatic navy termonology.
Corvettes? really? Might as well call them 'swoops'
yk
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When we have bronze-age references in the game, mixing in other, more recent references doesn't hit me as a problem. (where the hell do you think references like Titan came from?)
BTW - Corvettes, Frigates and such... They aren't "20th century" - drop back a bit father for when they came to be. And stopping at WWII type stuff -- where are the Q-Ships? *snicker*
As for the Corvette - I'd guess it'd be mostly a planetary type strafe ship. Messing with Dust folks.
It might also be used as a "swarm" type craft for things that got close to a planet. Bigger ships may not be designed to handle atmospheric effects but something small like this could. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1768
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Posted - 2013.03.08 09:37:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I thought CCP head quarters was a cave in Iceland. Just to get out of the cold. You might find a fire near the entrance but no whiteboards in there. That is why they rent servers in England. And have offices in other places that are not so much like Antarctica. It's true. The current weather forecast should give you an idea of how bad it is. Last night they were warning about the possible frost bite you could get if you went outside without proper clothing. Still nothing compared to northern Minnesota. Try -50C for a few days on end. Maybe with enough global warming the Gulf Stream will re-direct itself and Iceland will know what cold really is.
hmmm how about no.
I have just entered autumn here.
it is 8pm at night
and it is 32.1C (89.78F)
So I am kind of used to a bit warmer temperatures than those designed to freeze a wooly mammoth.
We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence
CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
68
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:55:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I thought CCP head quarters was a cave in Iceland. Just to get out of the cold. You might find a fire near the entrance but no whiteboards in there. That is why they rent servers in England. And have offices in other places that are not so much like Antarctica.
They share the cave with a museum as well, and yeah last time i visited the museum all one could see was stone plates with inscriptions, they had some engravings about dust back then while someone from ccp had ordered a few brontopizza's that where being delivered so i could peak past the bear in front of the room entrance.
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Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:34:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:It's true. The current weather forecast should give you an idea of how bad it is. Last night they were warning about the possible frost bite you could get if you went outside without proper clothing.
That looks crazy cold.
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