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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3699
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Posted - 2013.03.06 00:17:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:If you don't like or use killmails, don't look at them.. The fundamental principles of liberty... Fine. I change my stance. Although I strongly dislike them and would very much like to see them removed. I cannot advocate their removal just to suit my personal preference. I just really wish that important people in governing positions did not put so much weight on them. At the cost of what is truly important.
On that we agree.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Prekaz
the gentlemen's corporation
47
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Posted - 2013.03.06 00:18:00 -
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If you deserved to be on that killmail, you would have gotten a shot in. |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2013.03.06 00:20:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:EVE needs less free intel (everywhere), not more.
That's a double edged sword.
People will only make themselves vulnerable to attack in a place where they feel safe. Reducing their intel will increase the risk to your victims and if they consider the area too dangerous to be worth visiting then you won't have any victims at all any more.
I deleted this signature 3 times now but it keeps coming back. |
Freyja Asynjur
Folkvangr
Unknown Phenomena
17
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Posted - 2013.03.06 00:26:00 -
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What's lacking from killmails is the damn context. You can show every fleetmates in the mail, it won't give any more clue about what really happened GÇö you can't give meaning to numbers by adding more numbers, nor by removing them.
If anything, the popular killboards are responsible for a terrible design encouraging mockery and bashing over stories.
https://twitter.com/folkvangrcorp GÇö Freyja's space log. |
Serptimis
The Fiction Factory
Tribal Band
140
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Posted - 2013.03.06 00:44:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Op cares only about killboard stats and refuses to fly logi and/or be a true team player until his/her/its killmail fetish is satisied.
If you want more killmails...GET BETTER AT EVE.
Being good at getting lots of KM's and being good at EVE are not necessarily the same thing. |
XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
72
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:04:00 -
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Id say yes as long as they are contributing to the engagement in some way other than just being in fleet/system. Links, logi yes. What if one person in fleet is afk but in same system and not actually contributing to the engagement? Do they get on the killmail too? What if someone in fleet is scouting a gate? They are in fleet, in system......not actual engaged in fight but providing Intel on anything coming or goin. Do they get on the mail too?
CCP will look at these questions/situations when/if they expand killmails. |
Cavalira
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
64
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:32:00 -
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If they're AFK, they'll get on the kill. It's your job to kick them I guess... |
XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
73
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Posted - 2013.03.06 21:53:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:If they're AFK, they'll get on the kill. It's your job to kick them I guess...
So pile as many friends into fleet/system, regardless of whether or not they contribute, so they will appear on the mail? Essentially killmail whoring on a whole new level.
I dont believe CCP will go for that..... |
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:01:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:If they're AFK, they'll get on the kill. It's your job to kick them I guess...
I can already see the hundreds of frigates sitting cloaked in a safe , waiting to get on that titan KM. |
GreenSeed
234
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:14:00 -
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Killmails need to show:
- Tackle by order gained, and duration.
This so we can see who took the first tackle, how long he lasted, etc.
- boost effects active on killed/killer.
no need to list fleetmates, or who gave the boost. just what type of boost was the ship under. maybe listing the module would be enough.
- Logistic support.
who was offering reps to who, no need to list how much rep was provided, it can easily be inferred by the type of ship that did the RR.
whoever....
a complete "fix" to Killmails would entail:
-removal of killmails.
show me ONE new eve player who even cares about kms.
it almost impossible to convince a newbie to fit a point in their ship, when they can fit another -50% targeting range mod, -40% tracking, another +20% jam chance, another -50% speed... etc. specially when any fight they can get will be against a player who will have +25% total ehp, +30% to +50% more damage, +30% more speed, etc.
also, the idea of forcing someone to commit to a fight they have no intention of running from seems kinda pointless. people who still insist on the idiotic "holy trinity" of point, web and prop need to stop being stupid. |
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Cavalira
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
69
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:48:00 -
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Zenos Ebeth wrote:Cavalira wrote:If they're AFK, they'll get on the kill. It's your job to kick them I guess... I can already see the hundreds of frigates sitting cloaked in a safe , waiting to get on that titan KM.
~fleetmembersInSystem~ |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4159
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:54:00 -
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No to expanding killmails.
No to removing them.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
25
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:25:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Logistic pilots do not need killmails. We keep our comrades names away from the opponents killmails and that is our reward.
It's fun how some people consider their free labor as reward. It make me think communism isn't dead - just hibernating.
P.S. Logis should get killmails. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4160
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:30:00 -
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Kills are the reward, not killmails.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
649
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:32:00 -
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Stealth buff for off grid boosting alts.
Nope.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2013.03.07 13:57:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Logistic pilots do not need killmails. We keep our comrades names away from the opponents killmails and that is our reward. It's fun how some people consider their free labor as reward. It make me think communism isn't dead - just hibernating. P.S. Logis should get killmails.
Kill mails are not rewards and it's not communism to want to see your friends make it safely through a battle.
The Battle of Wizna. Like the movie 300 but with worse odds and the Germans as the attackers. |
JD No7
Malevolent Intentions
Ineluctable.
29
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:28:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:If you don't like or use killmails, don't look at them.. The fundamental principles of liberty... Fine. I change my stance. Although I strongly dislike them and would very much like to see them removed. I cannot advocate their removal just to suit my personal preference. I just really wish that important people in governing positions did not put so much weight on them. At the cost of what is truly important.
What is truly important, then?
The endgame for me is killing / losing stuff and having fun doing it, and Killmails allow me to have a track record of that.
What is truly important to you in game? |
Tub Chil
Last Men Standing
35
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:37:00 -
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every eve player should show on every kill, because eve is a sandbox meaning that everyone has influence on anyone else.
and no one will stress on getting kills |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
159
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:41:00 -
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JD No7 wrote:What is truly important, then?
For that alliance at that time. Minimizing our own losses while maximizing enemy losses. And through that hopefully win the war.
JD No7 wrote:What is truly important to you in game?
A good interaction with good people. Eve is just a shell. The only thing of substance in this game is our interaction with other people.
The Battle of Wizna. Like the movie 300 but with worse odds and the Germans as the attackers. |
Camper101
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
49
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:47:00 -
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Removal or showing all fleet members - both works for me.
Probably prefered the "show all" option, since I tend to look at the KB from time to time and go like "ooh, shiiit, that fight was awesome! and look at that!"
All those loveeeely memories 
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Cavalira
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
74
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:02:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Stealth buff for off grid boosting alts.
Nope.
Link pilots will get killmails, but this is not a buff, it's more of a nerf. If you want to use boosters, you can still do so, but your killmails will be "tainted" with your booster alt. |
Camper101
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
50
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:14:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Stealth buff for off grid boosting alts.
Nope. Link pilots will get killmails, but this is not a buff, it's more of a nerf. If you want to use boosters, you can still do so, but your killmails will be "tainted" with your booster alt.
This and everyone checking your boosters KB History will see what he's up against.
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Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
4
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:23:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:
also, the idea of forcing someone to commit to a fight they have no intention of running from seems kinda pointless. people who still insist on the idiotic "holy trinity" of point, web and prop need to stop being stupid.
If you're saying players will commit to a fight and go until death without being forced to you are dreaming. When i know I'm losing the first thing is to check if you are pointed/ webbed. If not then BYE!
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
878
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:27:00 -
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Better idea , remove all killmails.
That way no one needs to feel left out .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
497
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:31:00 -
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My idea about kill mails. Eliminate them. |
Skorpynekomimi
467
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:44:00 -
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Solution: Abolish killboards entirely. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1274
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:10:00 -
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I'm undecided about this. At first though this seems frankly idiotic....
But then I think how awesome my killsmails would look when I pick off the fleet scout in a Caracal, and it looks like I went 1 vs 30 and won. = P
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4165
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:12:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:My idea about kill mails. Eliminate them.
No.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
882
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:35:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:My idea about kill mails. Eliminate them. No.
YES EVEN BIGGER PERIOD
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Cavalira
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
76
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:52:00 -
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I hate when people state their opinion without elaborating. |
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