Crying out how high-sec is generating too much isk. Safe to say game mechanics allows that to happen, and your ability to negate that effect pisses you off and turn to CCP for game mechanics to be change to ensure null-sec dominance.

I find it hard to believe that you have really lived outside of highsec if you think the risk-reward balance we're all crying for are to "ensure null-sec dominance", or think highsec needs to be made safer by making life hard for suicide gankers. Again.

Besides, why not broaden your horizons, and walk a mile in our shoes, before you try to comment on suicide ganking?

Just as null-sec, game mechanics allow for restriction placed by players on those they dont like. High-sec game mechanics should allow a measure of security and justice players hence the name high-security. Unless you prefer EVE turn into an Open ended PVP MMO.

Character check please before you make assumptions. Whatever you believe it has no bearing on my views or opinion. My point of contest is there should be a proportional increase in both consequences for gankers and risk for high-sec players. Unless you asking me to indulge myself in suicide ganking and point out how unfair the current system is for gankers you have another thing coming. My comments stops here. You have yourself a lovely day.

Right. You don't like the existing CONCORD mechanics, because they make you stay at the keyboard and play the game, or risk losing your ship.

So you want CCP to turn Highsec space into some kind of World of Warcraft PvE realm, where you can never be harmed if you don't flip your PvP flag on.

Go play World of Warcraft, little bunny.

EvE Online IS an open ended PVP MMO. It is not Hello Kitty Space Cadet.



EvE is an acronym for Everybody vs. Everybody

This not a joke.

Here is CCP's opinion on the matter.


I'm sorry, but if you thought EvE Online was primarily a PvE game, you were sadly mistaken. Any PvE player can be ganked at any time, even in high sec, if the ganker is willing to write off the attack vessel as an automatic CONCORD loss.

So in light of you advocacy of increased risk to high-sec dwellers then I advocate an increased risk to high-sec gankers.

Here's the thing though - you don't seem to be advocating increased risk, it's more along the lines of increased cost. Being forced to live in lowsec and nullsec isn't really a "risk", most of us are -10 and quite a number of us are/have lowsec/nullsec mains.

As for the New Order being "butt hurt" over highsec mechanics... well, if you call disagreeing with the current (and frankly ridiculous) status quo "butt hurt", then so be it.

A risky endeavor is a costly one and vice versa.

James does plenty of combat ship PVP on other characters. Howw else do you think He learned game mechanics so well?

you mean bumping and suicide ganking needs so much knowledge of game mechanics???

that's real funny....

I had to reply seeing you obviously did not get my point "Big Shot". I am satisfied with the current state of high-sec mechanics. However it seems "New Order" is somehow butt hurt over high-sec mechanics and wants it changed. So in light of you advocacy of increased risk to high-sec dwellers then I advocate an increased risk to high-sec gankers. No changes to one no changes to the other, and everyone is happy. Unless you arent? Then take it somewhere else.

first guy to awox the crap out of the NO morons would earn a cookie.

yes i mine every now and then, No i do not pay

see me care?

Yet another filthy bot-aspirant crying for someone else to do something. Why not man up and do something yourself, buddy?

first guy to awox the crap out of the NO morons would earn a cookie.

yes i mine every now and then, No i do not pay

see me care?

Good luck to anyone that tries to Awox the New Order, they have nothing that isn't already destined to explode.

True... But the goal would not be to simply awox them. The true fun would be in awoxing in such a manner that ruins their fun, generates tears, and yet prevents the destruction and bumping of miners. For example, awoxing them as they gank a miner is pointless. Getting a scout role and warping the fleet to a smartbombing battleship before they can gank a miner, catching the,pods too and sending them back to their clone bays would be far more fun.

I think you somewhat underestimate the New Order, scouts only provide the warpin, they don't do the fleet warp, that's down to the FC. If a scout provides the warpin to a smartbombing BS a few catalysts will die and the affected pilots get kill rights on the BS pilot, and they will use them. The scout gets burnt into the bargain, they'll hunt him down as well as the BS pilot. Most of the guys are experienced PvP pilots using alts, they know what they're doing.
Podding them won't cause any tears either, they expect to be podded eventually, it's why their clones are generally only packing cheap combat implants and their medical clones are generally close to their area of operations. You might slow them down for about 5 minutes, but that's about it.
Nobody has succeeded in stopping a gank yet, if anyone wants to give it a go, they should expect to fail, everybody else has.

You would be surprised how many ganks are disrupted when miners play EVE rather than a mining version of Progressquest.

I remember one ship that was failed to gank 3 times in a row because the miner piloting it packed ECM and - shock horror - took their safety into their OWN hands rather than trying to get CCP to buff CONCORD instead.

A fleet mining op with an Exequeror (yes, a t1 logi boat) providing logi support is near impossible to gank too, but again that involves playing EVE not botting or multiboxing or AFKing.

My advice is to stay in Hi-sec where you pathetic excuse for a pvper belong.

confirming k/d ratio is of utmost importance, and we are all pathetic excuses for pvpers.

(at least miners undock lol)

I think you somewhat underestimate the New Order, scouts only provide the warpin, they don't do the fleet warp, that's down to the FC. If a scout provides the warpin to a smartbombing BS a few catalysts will die and the affected pilots get kill rights on the BS pilot, and they will use them. The scout gets burnt into the bargain, they'll hunt him down as well as the BS pilot. Most of the guys are experienced PvP pilots using alts, they know what they're doing.
Podding them won't cause any tears either, they expect to be podded eventually, it's why their clones are generally only packing cheap combat implants and their medical clones are generally close to their area of operations. You might slow them down for about 5 minutes, but that's about it.
Nobody has succeeded in stopping a gank yet, if anyone wants to give it a go, they should expect to fail, everybody else has.

What real wonder at....what happens when ccp over reacts, create an anchoring module that increases mining amount, tank, and makes a barge unbumpable because they could come up with no other solution? Or worse... Ccp eliminates bumping. It just seems odd that the new order views ccp as having a game issue, but thinks the solution, if one comes, will work in their favor. Ask goons how ccp's solution to permanent hulkagedon worked out for everyone. Mining ships got a buff and well... It seems to me only the gankers are the ones who aren't happy now.