Carebears only want to see consensual PvP like in themepark games.

Therefor they screech about how dishonorable ganking them must be.

Gankers that consider themselves skilled PvPers are akin to guys who consider themselves MMA cagefighters because they jump into the Chuck E Cheese's ball pit and punch six year olds in the face.

I suppose you also consider me an evil person because when I played chess last week I MURDERED THE OPPONENT'S PAWNS. Yes, I ordered my vile, evil, ganking Knight to capture and exterminate the pawns of the rival king. Then if that's not enough, I killed their Bishops and committed the ghastly act of regicide.

James 315 biomassed himself today after reading just how stupid most of his followers were.

A future head line I'm sure.

I never had a problem with James 315, in fact I guess you could call me a supporter, but my god, some of the people that lick his taint are just unbearable to a degree I'm not sure I have ever encountered ever before.

Bump the hell out of miners, demand money from them, gank them to hell and back, but for **** sake stop thinking you are part of a damned religion that's changing the world for the better.

but ganking isn't a measure of how good someone is at PvP.

I have seen several people drawn to EVE by the player-created stories like the New Order, the Guiding Hand Social Club and the Asakai battle.

I'm yet to see one person subscribe because they think EVE's mining interface is exciting.

[quote=Jonah Gravenstein]

A fleet mining op with an Exequeror (yes, a t1 logi boat) providing logi support is near impossible to gank too, but again that involves playing EVE not botting or multiboxing or AFKing.

Ah. Well, since I don't consider myself a "skilled pvper", that lets me out.

I do like your characterization of the average miner as a six year old at Chuckie Cheese.

One would hope that people that subscribe to a game with a reputation for being dark and brutal would HTFU and learn at least a little self-defense.

Oh I get it now you are a poor one in real live and can't afford multiple comps or a powerful enough machine to run more than one client. Its all so clear now.

What like one of those six year olds kicking you in the balls??

That would be funny.

"leave me alone you big meany"... thunk... Down goes the 30 year old virgin that never should have left his momma's basement.

It is perfectly possible to be extremely skilled at punching six year olds in the face. It might appear easy to just go in there and start throwing punches, but being able to get those faces punched with a minimal expenditure of energy and while avoiding the people that don't want you punching children is a different story.

Actually, a risky endeavor is one that has a CHANCE of having an outcome and not a guaranteed result.

What you are writing about has nothing to do with increasing risk - it has to do with increasing the guaranteed penalty. That's a fundamental difference.

Carry on.

Don't think you can defy the law and run away. And James 315 is the law.

A particularly non-compliant miner who has trashtalked the NO on multiple occasions was observed to have moved to Syndicate non-sovereign nullsec.

I took a small fleet of NO supporters out to deliver justice and the purifying flames of Navy Antimatter to the escape capsule.

The moral to this story: Buy your permit.

Sounds to me like you "broke the law" -- you harassed a miner who was fleeing from you, in direct contradiction to CCP's stance on that issue, as noted here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2536157#post2536157

You publically admit to this; you should be banned for your actions.

Moral to the story: You're a dumbass.

Heres the issue with your theory,:that link is talking about bumping and Sabriz is talking about ganking, pay close attention to the letters to understand the fundamental difference between them, as far as I know tracking people down and repeatedly ganking them has never been a bannable offense.

I think it's open to a semi-broader interpretation. I'm aware the subject was bumping, but it was also greatly focused on the harassment of an individual miner, and largely centered around their crusade. I think intent matters. A lot of emphasis was placed on the words harassment and evasion. That miner took it upon himself to actively evade them and they took it upon themselves to follow him, and only him. I think that is treading a line that was being established in that post. I stand by what I said.

I think it's open to a semi-broader interpretation. I'm aware the subject was bumping, but it was also greatly focused on the harassment of an individual miner, and largely centered around their crusade. I think intent matters. A lot of emphasis was placed on the words harassment and evasion. That miner took it upon himself to actively evade them and they took it upon themselves to follow him, and only him. I think that is treading a line that was being established in that post. I stand by what I said.

So the carebear scum now want CCP to actively prevent people from attacking the in-game ships of people that verbally abuse their friends/corpmates/allies?

What next, a rule against shooting someone for putting a bounty on you? Bans for shooting the ships of people that provide resources to your in-game rivals?

No its not, the thread is talking about bumping not ganking.

Thats comical, its now bullying to track down players and gank them.

You're over-simplifying this individual's actions, but I won't waste the time explaining it to you in detail. I'll simply say the progression of events is relevant.

We've all gone through high school, so we know a bully when we see one. If you need a refresher though, a bully is someone who picks on and attacks those that are weaker than himself because he's too afraid to take on someone his own size. Dressing it up and making it sound "noble" is (apparently) the only way one can justify to themselves they're not bullies, when in reality that's exactly what they are.

I consider these people worse than carebears. They're beyond risk-averse. They blow up throwaway ships and advocate awoxing as (apparently) the only legitimate methods of killing miners (I mean bots). There is no challenge in this. There is no risk. They follow a few simple steps to train a throwaway character for the sole purpose of bullying players, all the while making it sound like they're doing God's work (rolls eyes).

I consider these people worse than carebears. They're beyond risk-averse. They blow up throwaway ships and advocate awoxing as (apparently) the only legitimate methods of killing miners (I mean bots). There is no challenge in this. There is no risk. They follow a few simple steps to train a throwaway character for the sole purpose of bullying players, all the while making it sound like they're doing God's work (rolls eyes).

Your opinion is wholly irrelevant to me.
Go back to Jita and try to destroy some freighters to remind everyone your alliance still exists.

So you necroed a 6 day old thread to post a link to a video from December of 2011? Oh yeah, so not seeking attention.

Your opinion is wholly irrelevant to me.

I consider these people worse than carebears.

In my opinion, you bullied that person. That is where I personally draw the line.