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MrJordanIOI
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Posted - 2005.08.18 11:45:00 -
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or webbed or jammed or dampened ?
Just so we know ?
I dont need anything fancy really, just a small icon showing me that one of those 20 NPCs shooting me (or PvP gankers for that matter) have managed to put a scram on me.
Its really impossible to spot any message saying so in that window showing combat damage.
If its not too much trouble... Thanks,
IOI
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2005.08.18 11:55:00 -
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That would be nice, yes.
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Iron Wraith
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:01:00 -
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/me sticks oar in
Yeah, i'm sure this has been raised before. but its gotta be added to the list of ui tweaks/upgrades if its not already there so i'm gonna jump on board and ask for it too.
I like knowing i'm webbed, thats helpfull in its self. but its only a small part of the info i need to managed my threat list and tactics. an indication of who is doing what to me so i can set my drones/guns on the largest threat is the aim here.
which pesky frig has webbed me stopping me from getting my blasters close the the big ships? maybe things are going pear shaped, who do i have to kill so i can warp out?
no experiance in pvp but i'm sure people would like to know whos turned their war ship into an expensive ornament with guns as effective as flag poles. cos if its that destroyer hitting them with ew while the ceptor is just scrambling then i know who they would shoot at first if they want to make a fight of it and get their guns working again for the big targets.
ok, thats my contriubution to the cause, now if someone can just point us to the age old thread thats already asked for this (this has been asked for before, right?) then i'll stick my oar in there too 
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Sangxianc on 18/08/2005 12:01:24
There's a noise and quite a visible effect which you should be able to make out. What I'd prefer is a way to turn the old webby effect back on.
Edit- although an easier way of seeing who's scrambling/webbing would be nice, I guess.
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Grim Starwind
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Starwind on 18/08/2005 12:55:38
That does sound ok, but I also think that if you were in a pvp battle and you were in the little ship doing the jamming... I'm sure the last thing you want the big BS knowing is that your the one jamming it in your little frigate.
Maybe if they let you know who is doing the jamming when it's NPC's. But hey I'm not bothered either way. But It would suck if I all of a sudden became the target for a BS I was jamming while the other guys shoot at it. Because lets face it.. by the time the BS changes it's fire to me surely the other big dudes shooting at it would have it near killed by that time anyway...
OR even get enough time to jam it themselfs 
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Commoner
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:58:00 -
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Wouldn't it be possible to mark certain NPC's/PC's in the overview with some kind of jamming symbol, or a symbol indicating that this vessel is doing something nasty to me?.
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Markie
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:11:00 -
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I would like a module like this but to be fair, as far as PVP goes you are going to know who is tackling, webbing you jamming you by a few easy ways,
1. gate campers are more than likley all going to scramble you,
2. if webbed, look at the people 10k or less than from you. (if they have a uber named webber you have lucked out)
3. if you are jammed, whats it matter you can't direct your dones or fire any way as you need to click on a target to direct them, but the chances are that it's a caldari ship jamming you.
4. You know who is doing sumit nasty to you as they will be red if they have a module activated against you, so if no damage coming in there is ur man.
I know whis is all good and well and does not relate to NPC, but in PVP knowing who is using what against you is good, but let's face it, there are still many ways to see who is doing what by there ship type, there range and have ur effects etc turned on.
I must stress I like the idea of this post but there are currently ways to see when someone is doing most things to you just not that easy to work out.
My advice is get an eagle to boom all small ships from range and then you only have to worry bout the big ships that have probley killed you by now :)
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MrJordanIOI
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Grim Starwind
Edited by: Grim Starwind on 18/08/2005 12:55:38
That does sound ok, but I also think that if you were in a pvp battle and you were in the little ship doing the jamming... I'm sure the last thing you want the big BS knowing is that your the one jamming it in your little frigate.
Maybe if they let you know who is doing the jamming when it's NPC's. But hey I'm not bothered either way. But It would suck if I all of a sudden became the target for a BS I was jamming while the other guys shoot at it. Because lets face it.. by the time the BS changes it's fire to me surely the other big dudes shooting at it would have it near killed by that time anyway...
OR even get enough time to jam it themselfs
It'd be even nicer if you could maybe know WHO was jamming you.
BUT - complexity of implementing may be higher than with just showing the program flag that MUST already exist in the code anyhow more visibly on the GUI.
I honestly think this must be very easy to implement while making a lot of us very happy.
If you think the same please sign this thread by replying.
Thanks,
IOI
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Firebreak
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:47:00 -
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My first experience with NPS scramble resulted in the loss of my first big ship. Oh well, live and learn. This would definitely be nice so that I know what's happening and can plan my battle tactics around it.
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piercer
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:48:00 -
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I agree fully, i lost a taranis and deimos to that bug when i didnt think i was scrambled.
Blasters with a 1-2sec ROF makes it just a little hard to spot that message when trying to warp, by then its usually too late.
Put something on the overview to show who's jamming/scrambling/dampening or put it under the locked target thing. 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:59:00 -
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It used to be in game (EW) that is. Straight after the EW patch. Why it was removed i dont know
You used to get a list, just above the shield/armor/hull graphic with who was doing what. Jamming for EW (obviously) and a misc. for target painting/tracking disruptors etc. It would also give you the timer so you knew when it was gonna run out. This was very handy cos you didnt need to keep spamming the lock target button.
Its usually obvious when you are scrambled, but i would definitely like to see the web graphic return. I fly blaster ships primarily and i really need to see if im webbed and if my target is webbed. Its damn important imo
Just give us back what we used to have (i still dont see why they were ever removed  )
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MrJordanIOI
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Posted - 2005.08.18 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
It used to be in game (EW) that is. Straight after the EW patch. Why it was removed i dont know
You used to get a list, just above the shield/armor/hull graphic with who was doing what. Jamming for EW (obviously) and a misc. for target painting/tracking disruptors etc. It would also give you the timer so you knew when it was gonna run out. This was very handy cos you didnt need to keep spamming the lock target button.
Its usually obvious when you are scrambled, but i would definitely like to see the web graphic return. I fly blaster ships primarily and i really need to see if im webbed and if my target is webbed. Its damn important imo
Just give us back what we used to have (i still dont see why they were ever removed )
Thats good news in some ways- that it has been coded already.
I disagree that its obvious when you are scrammed UNLESS you want to warp away only to find out you are scrambled !
Many many ships have been lost and I bet quite a number of petitions made - especially to PvE because of this.
Cheers,
IOI
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Jenna Knor
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Posted - 2005.08.18 14:22:00 -
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/me signed. btw 1 thing pops into my head to actually handle this thing and thats called ECM cant scram/web you if they cant lock :P
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2005.08.18 14:24:00 -
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Also a more visable indication that you are flaged,....other than asking "i'm i flashing red to u?"
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.08.18 15:12:00 -
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I think it's in the works as one of forthcoming ui improvements... in the meantime i'd be happy with just getting the webbing gfx back ;.;
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.08.18 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sangxianc
Edited by: Sangxianc on 18/08/2005 12:01:24
There's a noise and quite a visible effect which you should be able to make out. What I'd prefer is a way to turn the old webby effect back on.
Edit- although an easier way of seeing who's scrambling/webbing would be nice, I guess.
The noise is useless when most everyone runs with sound off to reduce the lag.
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Wrok
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Posted - 2005.08.18 15:26:00 -
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its kinda ezy to tell...
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Cosmic Dragon
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Posted - 2005.08.18 15:46:00 -
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Its in the upcomming changes.
It will appear as a text warning
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Da Ram
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Posted - 2005.08.18 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cosmic Dragon
Its in the upcomming changes.
It will appear as a text warning
Where ??
If its in that _fixed_ window that s displaying the damage received and dealt its absolutely useless really.
I ve got blown up too many times because I did not know I am really scrambled.
In the end - I dont care if my screen turns all red or I see an icon or if a text message next to my console says so.
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Zinjan
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Posted - 2005.08.18 16:06:00 -
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You can turn off combat messages in the log, and have log window open to see what is going on. Doesn't look pretty but it's a way, it will also tell you who is having you scrambled.
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MrJordanIOI
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Posted - 2005.08.18 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zinjan
You can turn off combat messages in the log, and have log window open to see what is going on. Doesn't look pretty but it's a way, it will also tell you who is having you scrambled.
Thats a workaround, albeit a tough one really.
I d very much fancy a small icon rather than have yet another window clutter my view into space ;/
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Pharuan
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Posted - 2005.08.18 23:35:00 -
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Icons would be nice and timers too. But that may all be incorporated soon...
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.08.19 00:52:00 -
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What i would like to see is some glowing buttons on the ui like this:
RED Blinking: You are warp scrambled
Yellow Blinking: You are being ECM'd
orange blinking: you are being webbed
Magenta blinking: you are being dampened
Another reason this is needed is that some of us are too far zoomed out thinking tactically to be able to easily see the graphical effects that are there..
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.19 01:08:00 -
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.08.19 02:04:00 -
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I'd prefer a set of icons for this.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.08.19 07:43:00 -
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i think it should be displayed what happens t you, but not who causes it.
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.08.19 07:53:00 -
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The little effect u get is useless tbh. In a fleet battle , ur rarely zoomed in enough to see that stuff.
The notices rarely pop up, and if they do its for like 0.1 sec .
Id really like some form of identification, showing whos scramming u.
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2005.08.19 08:18:00 -
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In a time of interstaller travel at the blink of an eye it is just plain stupid not to be able to see easily who is holding you down with some kind of electronic inhibitor.
I assume CCP still from time to time reads the forums so who knows they might see the light and sort this out before the end of this planet or in CCP terms SOON™
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.08.19 09:41:00 -
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Say for example you fit 2 WCS. 2 People attack you and both have the scrambling effect going.
How do you know if either one has got more than 2 points on you? More importantly, how do the attackers know that they have the target locked down?
Some form of indication on both sides would be great.
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Shidhe
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Posted - 2005.08.19 10:54:00 -
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This is badly needed.
The nicest thing would be to have an indicator in the overview. If a ship locks you, you can see it in the overview. Why not the same for jam / scramble / web? After all these are direct influences on your ship from another ship - you should be able to notice them.
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