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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2330
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Posted - 2013.03.12 18:35:00 -
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Mining ships in general seem pretty worthless... 
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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.03.12 19:22:00 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:The Tier 1 Amarr industrial.... what's its name again... the Sigil, you know the only reason that it exists is to create the Blockade Runner Variation, no one flys the T1 version cause the Bestower beats it in everything
The Sigil is one of the best lowsec transports in the game. Rigged for power it can fit a 10mn MWD and pull off the MWD/Cloak trick with great effectiveness. 2 highs and plenty of CPU for a cloak and a combat scanner for checking the gates, 3 mids for MWD, ECM burst, and third ewar of your choice, and 5 lows for all the versatility you could want from a transport. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Drunken Bum
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2013.03.12 19:25:00 -
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all the shuttles. I cant kill a damn thing with them. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.03.12 19:37:00 -
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The Impel: will get killed at any kind of gate camp, and starts with 4km3 cargo.
"Deep space transports are designed with the depths of lawless space in mind. Possessing defensive capabilities far in excess of standard industrial ships, they provide great protection for whatever cargo is being transported in their massive holds."
Doesn't even come close to its description. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3724
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:26:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:The Impel: will get killed at any kind of gate camp, and starts with 4km3 cargo.
"Deep space transports are designed with the depths of lawless space in mind. Possessing defensive capabilities far in excess of standard industrial ships, they provide great protection for whatever cargo is being transported in their massive holds."
Doesn't even come close to its description. Deep Space Transports were originally designed with 0.0 belt ore pick up in mind. They are tough enough to take a bit of NPC pounding if necessary to pick up their load and exit.
Obviously this role never really materialized... although they do have some uses with some warp core stabs and a stiff tank for hauling in High Sec. Generally speaking though you are better off with a Blockade Runner in any given situation besides the first one I listed. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

lilith silverstone
The Arrow Project
35
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:33:00 -
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Rorqual useless? Are you even playing the same game? |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
334
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:16:00 -
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Confirming OP doesn't actually PLAY EVE.
Caracal is among the top 3 best cruisers in the game right now, for pvp and pve, ham + mwd is ****
As for the rorqual, it is invaluable as a mining booster in 0.0, I see them used extensively to maximize yield, but also many people use them for hauling, as well as ore and ice compression.
Way to pick 2 highly useful ships, OP.
Primae, iteron mk 2 |

Whitehound
1188
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:27:00 -
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I am surprised nobody has yet mentioned the leadership.  Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1326
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:31:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:The Impel: will get killed at any kind of gate camp I don't know, I use it for low-sec hauling. It easily fits an MWD and cloak plus full cargo. Granted, I only take it through quiet low-sec, but it does just fine getting my BCs where they need to go. I support Malcanis and Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7074
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:33:00 -
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Ken 1138 wrote:My choice is: The Caracal/Cerberus.
I like Caldari ships alot, but i cannot think of an uglier and more useless ship than that. Not much power, not much in defenses, not much speed even MWD fit. What ever sleek design it is supposed to have is completely lost in a ship that looks like an over sized coffee stir stick. Very little improvement in its T2 variation with a rather hideous paint job.
The Cerberus is pretty terrible, but the Caracal owns. We've been using them in HAM setups in 30-40 man fleets to great effect.
If anything, I'd say the worst ship in the game is the Phantasm. There's really nothing it does 'well.' ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
479
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:46:00 -
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The worst and most useless ship?
The one that sits in your hangar. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1485
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Posted - 2013.03.12 23:25:00 -
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Easy. Hulk. Followed by all the other mining ships. |

YuuKnow
Planetary Purchasing
675
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Posted - 2013.03.12 23:40:00 -
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Ken 1138 wrote:Without breaking the bank in modules or going beyond what the ship can do with T2 modules. What would you nominate for the worst and most useless ship in EVE?
Whichever one that your the pilot of....
Oooooooo burned!
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HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
175
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Posted - 2013.03.13 00:05:00 -
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How useless a ship is depends on your SP and what you are trying to do with it. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.03.13 00:44:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote: Deep Space Transports were originally designed with 0.0 belt ore pick up in mind. They are tough enough to take a bit of NPC pounding if necessary to pick up their load and exit.
Obviously this role never really materialized... although they do have some uses with some warp core stabs and a stiff tank for hauling in High Sec. Generally speaking though you are better off with a Blockade Runner in any given situation besides the first one I listed.
Its funny you say this; we were doing a mine op just the other night, the Orca guy had to take off, so we finished with a DST hauling.
Karl Hobb wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:The Impel: will get killed at any kind of gate camp I don't know, I use it for low-sec hauling. It easily fits an MWD and cloak plus full cargo. Granted, I only take it through quiet low-sec, but it does just fine getting my BCs where they need to go.
I was running the numbers on it just the other night, its a lot heavier than my BS and I like to have 100MN MWD on that to pull off the cloak trick. Have you actually tested it using the trick to see if it can be locked? My feeling is that there will be a 4 or 5 second window w the 10mn pushing, and the 100 wont fit. I would very much love to be wrong here, I find the cloaky to be overkill and really not a lot of fun. The cloak trick is just the right amount of challenge, and if it works fairly well on the DST I mat have to try it out.
There's something about the ship that I really like. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Domer Pyle
Northern Flemish Bastards Inc Yulai Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.03.13 01:29:00 -
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Ken 1138 wrote:EVE online has many many types of ships anyone can fly with the proper skills. Many very good, many very pretty to look at. And taking inspiration from Top Gear's The Worst Car in the History of the World special. Without breaking the bank in modules or going beyond what the ship can do with T2 modules. What would you nominate for the worst and most useless ship in EVE? My choice is: The Caracal/Cerberus. I like Caldari ships alot, but i cannot think of an uglier and more useless ship than that. Not much power, not much in defenses, not much speed even MWD fit. What ever sleek design it is supposed to have is completely lost in a ship that looks like an over sized coffee stir stick. Very little improvement in its T2 variation with a rather hideous paint job. Close second choice is: The Rorqual For being so useless that its role can one day be replaced by a simple POS module overnight if CCP chooses to make one. Giving you a useless, very expensive ship that cannot access high sec and has not other strategic role that is not already filled by other capital or smaller ships. I do not find the ship ugly however, so it is not my number one. (New paint job would hurt, stripes of JMC Red Dwarf red anyone?  )
looks like someone hasn't heard of the battle rorqual... |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1140
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Posted - 2013.03.13 01:37:00 -
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Eagle. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1329
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Posted - 2013.03.13 01:53:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I was running the numbers on it just the other night, its a lot heavier than my BS and I like to have 100MN MWD on that to pull off the cloak trick. Have you actually tested it using the trick to see if it can be locked? My feeling is that there will be a 4 or 5 second window w the 10mn pushing, and the 100 wont fit. I would very much love to be wrong here, I find the cloaky to be overkill and really not a lot of fun. The cloak trick is just the right amount of challenge, and if it works fairly well on the DST I mat have to try it out. You can pull it off with a 10MN if you switch off the cloak a bit over a second before the MWD cycle ends. This means you have to turn off the MWD manually rather than let the cloak do it. The timing is a bit difficult, but it didn't take me much practice to get it right. After that, let the natural warp strength and the laziness of a camper who may not be expecting to be able to lock you after the cycle, and the fact that you took it into quiet low-sec (as in, don't drive the ****** right into OMS expecting to make this happen), take over. My hauling alt also has Evasive Manuevering to V, but I personally think that's a crucial skill anyway. I support Malcanis and Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |

Dengen Krastinov
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
3
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Posted - 2013.03.13 02:05:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:Hel Nidhoggur Naglfar
theres the worst ships atm
I can't agree more with this.
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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
213
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Posted - 2013.03.13 03:06:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:. My hauling alt also has Evasive Manuevering to V, but I personally think that's a crucial skill anyway.
Can you actually delete the rest of that post =-)
We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
64
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Posted - 2013.03.13 03:06:00 -
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Revenant is quite possibly the most pointless ship in the game. Outrageously rare, terrible stats in every way, looks absolutely horrid.
Other than that, my list would go something like this:
Kitsune (currently worse than a griffin) Hyena (really hard to find a use for this one) Osprey Navy Issue Scythe Fleet Issue Exequoror Navy Issue
Ships that are bad but not completely useless:
Leviathan (only slightly good because of the baller shield bonus) Hel (what is having a tank) Nidhoggur (only good for repping poses) Phoenix (only really useful for reinforcing poses) Eagle Cerb Pilgrim (these 3 are good in certain roles but see little use overall) Deep Space Transports Mimir (this thing is much worse than any of the other tourney ships, has a frankly embarrassing targeting range)
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Irya Boone
TIPIAKS
218
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Posted - 2013.03.13 11:10:00 -
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1) SIN and mostly all black ops ships execpt the widow.
2)most usefull = all ship able to fit covert ops cloaking .. :) RENAME null sec systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome. Need Black Ops be able to FIT cover ops cloaking device !!! |

Camper101
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
74
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Posted - 2013.03.13 11:37:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:1) SIN and mostly all black ops ships execpt the widow.
It is actually exactly the other way around.
@OP: Succubus, Phantasm, Scythe Fleet, Augoror Navy and the Firetail are pretty useless atm.
And my Cruors and Ashimmus could use some loving, too :D 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
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Marbuel
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
40
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Posted - 2013.03.13 11:37:00 -
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The Primae is vastly dysfunctional and doesn't live up to it's potential by any stretch. |

Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
46
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Posted - 2013.03.13 12:00:00 -
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I'd probably have to go with the Naglfar first, just because it's so vastly overshadowed by the other races, yet takes twice aslong to train for, i don;t think even the devs know what its supposed to be, i think it tries to be versatile but just ends up being **** at everything.
It's hard to give anything t1 (sub cap) the "worst class" tag as when you consider the price, most of them have a use, things like the bellicose can still be fun and have some use for low SP pilots. So considering this id' also vote for the Munnin, it's costly, and can in no way justify it's price when compared to a Rupture!
PS - Caracal?! One of the best cruisers in game at the moment, including all the t2 ones! Admittedly Cerb is a bit redundant considering the caracal and you'd be lucky to see one out and about. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
213
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Posted - 2013.03.13 12:02:00 -
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The Primae was a limited edition, special release ship. It was designed to be a luxury item and I think it fills that role well.
Its funny though, a lot of people seem to want that type of ship. Something that was fast/tough/stealthy enough to get into low and null sec for PI would be cool. Maybe a version that got a break on orbital transfer costs. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Dave Stark
1983
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Posted - 2013.03.13 12:07:00 -
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nagal--- oh, wait. you're tired, stop posting. |

Jensaro Koraka
Serenity Prime Kraken.
57
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Posted - 2013.03.13 13:16:00 -
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Shuttles. If we have to name a real ship then whatever that Minmatar ship is that still has split hardpoints. I thought CCP learned their lesson about that.
Edit: Wrong forum. This belongs in 'ships and modules'. "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1000
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Posted - 2013.03.13 13:47:00 -
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Destoya wrote:
Deep Space Transports
Does anyone actually use these?
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:12:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:I'd probably have to go with the Naglfar first, just because it's so vastly overshadowed by the other races, yet takes twice aslong to train for, i don;t think even the devs know what its supposed to be, i think it tries to be versatile but just ends up being **** at everything. The Naglfar is getting a fixed bonus that turns its two turrets into three effective turrets, and is having its launchers removed (along with the two high slots they occupy and some PG and CPU to compensate).
So the Nag will actually go from being the second worst dread to being the second best, and the Revelation will take its place. Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
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