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![Primary This Rifter Primary This Rifter](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93101607/portrait?size=64)
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:13:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Destoya wrote:
Deep Space Transports
Does anyone actually use these? It would have actually made sense if CCP decided to make DSTs invulnerable to cargo scanning instead of BRs, but... they didn't for some reason. Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
![Super spikinator Super spikinator](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1411733514/portrait?size=64)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
115
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:24:00 -
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At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship. |
![Ersahi Kir Ersahi Kir](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90358905/portrait?size=64)
Ersahi Kir
Freelance Mining Company
14
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:38:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:silens vesica wrote:Destoya wrote:
Deep Space Transports
Does anyone actually use these? It would have actually made sense if CCP decided to make DSTs invulnerable to cargo scanning instead of BRs, but... they didn't for some reason.
What ruins the DST for me is they're slower in warp and have a much higher mass than the Tech 1 versions.
It's great that they're more tanky than the tech 1 versions, but it sucks that they have to give up the core things that industrials regularly do: align and warp quickly. |
![Buhhdust Princess Buhhdust Princess](https://images.evetech.net/characters/348465386/portrait?size=64)
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
525
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:41:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:1) SIN and mostly all black ops ships execpt the widow.
2)most usefull = all ship able to fit covert ops cloaking .. :)
Yeah, black ops are crap. Don't bother using them everyone, theyre so bad :/ Buff them CCP! |
![Bridgette d'Iberville Bridgette d'Iberville](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92027731/portrait?size=64)
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
168
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:44:00 -
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Since teh OP didn't exclude special edition ships, I'm going with the Echelon (although I think it looks cool). Lighting a cyno to my ladyparts, jump on in! |
![silens vesica silens vesica](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1958910856/portrait?size=64)
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1002
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:48:00 -
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Ersahi Kir wrote: What ruins the DST for me is they're slower in warp and have a much higher mass than the Tech 1 versions.
It's great that they're more tanky than the tech 1 versions, but it sucks that they have to give up the core things that industrials regularly do: align and warp quickly.
"We heard you liked industrials, so we carved you a nickel-iron asteroid in the shape of an industrial and slapped engines and some paint on it for you." Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
![Primary This Rifter Primary This Rifter](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93101607/portrait?size=64)
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.13 17:48:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship. I don't really get why people say this. Phantasm isn't that bad. Slap two large ASBs on it and it's a workable solo PVP ship. Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
![Destoya Destoya](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1809290295/portrait?size=64)
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
64
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Posted - 2013.03.13 17:53:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:
What's wrong with the Leviathan? It has an absolute beast of a tank and it does the most DPS for structure shoots or caps moving slower than 30 m/s.
Probably 75% of the time I see PL's Leviathan, it ends up bouncing off the end of another titan and flying further than it's puny 60km range, at which point it's a glorified Large Shield Extender II.
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![TheButcherPete TheButcherPete](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1753923549/portrait?size=64)
TheButcherPete
The James Gang R O G U E
234
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Posted - 2013.03.13 17:59:00 -
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I'll forgive you, because you are in RANE. Leave while you can.
Rorqual isn't used mainly for compression, it is used for the hideously good link bonus it gives while in Industrial mode.
hurr. I can tell you've never used one. Bzzt.
GÖÑ Punkturis GÖÑ |
![Dazram Two Dazram Two](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90271342/portrait?size=64)
Dazram Two
Viziam Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.03.13 18:05:00 -
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Eagle and Cerberus.
Seriously, the Caldari HACs are garbage. When was the last time you saw an Eagle?
Thought so. |
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![Whitehound Whitehound](https://images.evetech.net/characters/608526967/portrait?size=64)
Whitehound
1190
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Posted - 2013.03.13 18:12:00 -
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I have found one more. Wait for it... wait for it... the censorship. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
![DarthNefarius DarthNefarius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90134627/portrait?size=64)
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
676
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Posted - 2013.03.13 19:28:00 -
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Ken 1138 wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:The Echelon and the Primae. I forgot about the echelon, what was it designed for again? .
TheEchelon was given away for Incursions & was incredibly fail as a hacking ship because it is so slow & hacking towers were 70 km out
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
![Nick Shale Nick Shale](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91735206/portrait?size=64)
Nick Shale
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
15
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Posted - 2013.03.13 21:17:00 -
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PUNISHER by far
The only frig it can kill its the rookie ships and the scanning ones
To SLOW NO GANK! Cap sucks cant double rep 2 mid slots!!!!!!!
The Punisher is like a Mexican Pi+¦ata in space, its only good to pop it. |
![Tarvos Telesto Tarvos Telesto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/992976083/portrait?size=64)
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
785
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Posted - 2013.03.13 21:42:00 -
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"What is the worst and most useless ship in EVE"
In my opinion, all kinds of capitals and titans, in usage only when pos-sov war, totaly boring and useless in normal comabt- battle, also expensiv.
Love all small and med ships even battleships but capitals... Not my things... EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
![Frank Doberman Frank Doberman](https://images.evetech.net/characters/671784999/portrait?size=64)
Frank Doberman
7th Church of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
3
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Posted - 2013.03.14 00:57:00 -
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Anyone who hasn't immediately replied 'Moa' without so much as a nanosecond of hesitation, has obviously never undocked in one.
Trying to fly one of these 'things' (they're not ships) as the first cruiser I ever used in Eve, was possibly the most frustrating, infuriating, and embittering experience of my life, and believe me, there have been a few stonkers of those along the way.
It's just no use at anything at all, and the frequency with which it explodes as soon as something appears on everview just makes you question if Eve is really the correct game for you, or indeed, if life is worth bothering with anymore.
If I ever found myself in a station, miles from home, and the only ship available was a Moa, I'd immediately undock, self-destruct it, then do the same in my pod and take the clone express. I'd sooner attempt PvP in a shuttle (provided it's a Minmatar one so I can pretend I'm Luke and R2D2 is riding shotgun, and I can do the bleep....woooo! noises myself) |
![Frank Doberman Frank Doberman](https://images.evetech.net/characters/671784999/portrait?size=64)
Frank Doberman
7th Church of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
3
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Posted - 2013.03.14 00:58:00 -
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bleh, double post |
![Super spikinator Super spikinator](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1411733514/portrait?size=64)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
115
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Posted - 2013.03.14 03:51:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Super spikinator wrote:At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship. I don't really get why people say this. Phantasm isn't that bad. Slap two large ASBs on it and it's a workable solo PVP ship.
Until someone remembers to neut you. |
![Mallak Azaria Mallak Azaria](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1154355017/portrait?size=64)
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2642
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Posted - 2013.03.14 04:23:00 -
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Naglfar. It should use 3 projectiles.
Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
![Herzog Wolfhammer Herzog Wolfhammer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/805810401/portrait?size=64)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2495
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Posted - 2013.03.14 04:58:00 -
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The worst and most useless ship...
I fear that it's probably whatever ship I happen to be piloting at any time.
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![Primary This Rifter Primary This Rifter](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93101607/portrait?size=64)
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.14 06:02:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Super spikinator wrote:At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship. I don't really get why people say this. Phantasm isn't that bad. Slap two large ASBs on it and it's a workable solo PVP ship. Until someone remembers to neut you. That's why you pick your battles. Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
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![Celeste Taylor Celeste Taylor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92068121/portrait?size=64)
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
137
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Posted - 2013.03.14 12:32:00 -
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I don't think I would ever pilot one of those special edition Iterons. I think one of the Quafe ones goes for over 3.5B ISK. Even the less expensive ones are just major killboard targets for solo gankers. Not sure who would buy one of these and am not sure why CCP would choose an Iteron for a special edition instead of a blockade runner which might survive for a little while. I like the special edition shuttles though, since they are harder to target, cost much less, and look cool. |
![Speedkermit Damo Speedkermit Damo](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92468548/portrait?size=64)
Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
51
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Posted - 2013.03.14 17:34:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ken 1138 wrote:My choice is: The Caracal/Cerberus.
I like Caldari ships alot, but i cannot think of an uglier and more useless ship than that. Not much power, not much in defenses, not much speed even MWD fit. What ever sleek design it is supposed to have is completely lost in a ship that looks like an over sized coffee stir stick. Very little improvement in its T2 variation with a rather hideous paint job. The Cerberus is pretty terrible, but the Caracal owns. We've been using them in HAM setups in 30-40 man fleets to great effect. '
LOL!!! Don't Panic.
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![Super spikinator Super spikinator](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1411733514/portrait?size=64)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
116
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Posted - 2013.03.15 06:16:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Super spikinator wrote:At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship. I don't really get why people say this. Phantasm isn't that bad. Slap two large ASBs on it and it's a workable solo PVP ship. Until someone remembers to neut you. That's why you pick your battles.
Picking on lower tier frigates shouldn't constitute picking your fights. |
![Aineko Macx Aineko Macx](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1532965165/portrait?size=64)
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
249
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Posted - 2013.03.15 06:57:00 -
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mechtech wrote:The Munnin, the T2 Rupture. It's absolutely worthless now that new BCs, T3, BS tracking rigs, and countless other new additions have overshadowed its role. Ask yourself, have you ever seen a Munnin? The Munnin is perfect as anti-tackle support in shield snipe fleets. |
![Primary This Rifter Primary This Rifter](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93101607/portrait?size=64)
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.15 07:27:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Super spikinator wrote:At least CCP knows that the phantasm is the worst ship. I don't really get why people say this. Phantasm isn't that bad. Slap two large ASBs on it and it's a workable solo PVP ship. Until someone remembers to neut you. That's why you pick your battles. Picking on lower tier frigates shouldn't constitute picking your fights. It works quite well against a few T1 cruisers, some navy cruisers, and recons. Is it underpowered? Yes. But it's not nearly what I'd consider "worst and most useless". Give it another mid slot, more speed and agility, a bit more CPU, and more cargo space and it would be a beast. Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
![silens vesica silens vesica](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1958910856/portrait?size=64)
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.15 14:55:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:It works quite well against a few T1 cruisers, some navy cruisers, and recons. Is it underpowered? Yes. But it's not nearly what I'd consider "worst and most useless". Give it another mid slot, more speed and agility, a bit more CPU, and more cargo space and it would be a beast.
That could be said of many crap ships. Even a turd can be polished,* if you give it a bit of work.
*As demonstrated by Mythbusters. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
![Ranger 1 Ranger 1](https://images.evetech.net/characters/145328353/portrait?size=64)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3748
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:41:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Naglfar. It should use 3 projectiles.
It only needs 2. ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png)
Naglafar buff. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
![Ranger 1 Ranger 1](https://images.evetech.net/characters/145328353/portrait?size=64)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3748
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:49:00 -
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Speedkermit Damo wrote:Andski wrote:Ken 1138 wrote:My choice is: The Caracal/Cerberus.
I like Caldari ships alot, but i cannot think of an uglier and more useless ship than that. Not much power, not much in defenses, not much speed even MWD fit. What ever sleek design it is supposed to have is completely lost in a ship that looks like an over sized coffee stir stick. Very little improvement in its T2 variation with a rather hideous paint job. The Cerberus is pretty terrible, but the Caracal owns. We've been using them in HAM setups in 30-40 man fleets to great effect. ' LOL!!! However I pick the Breacher, just because of the terrible DPS. I often get top damage with a Breacher in frigate fleets. However the fact that many people feel the way you do probably accounts for why my Breachers seem to live longer than any ship in gang other than the Punishers. ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png)
I'll also point out that the Punishers are usually the core group that survives long enough to finish the last bits of resistance and hold the field when all is said and done. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
![Amber Solaire Amber Solaire](https://images.evetech.net/characters/561582706/portrait?size=64)
Amber Solaire
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:15:00 -
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Whatever came before, the Prophecy now most certainly is most useless ship, even though it still looks good
I mean, missiler launchers, but drone bonuses?? |
![Corey Fumimasa Corey Fumimasa](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90447483/portrait?size=64)
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
213
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:31:00 -
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Amber Solaire wrote:Whatever came before, the Prophecy now most certainly is most useless ship, even though it still looks good
I mean, missiler launchers, but drone bonuses?? The Proph is a frikken monster! It has 7 lows for tank or gank. You never know what a ship like that will bring to the game and that is worth a lot on its own. Huge drone bay for several different setups ready to go. All with an excellent resist bonus, and a great price.
I get the distinct feeling that I have just been thoroughly trolled. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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