No.

As a relative newbie I can honestly say the time you have to spend training up to that 10 million SP should be used to learn the game.

Jumping straight into advanced ships without first going through the less isk-painful motions (getting repeatedly blown up in frigates and cruisers) is a pretty bad idea.

How about a no from a character below 170mil sp?

Fine, I just ask that you justify it.

how is plex not pay to win or the character bazarre pay to win??

how is plex not pay to win or the character bazarre pay to win??

Using plex doesn't get you the sp to use ships to their fullest potential and no one said the character bazaar was ptw

Because they don't give anything that cannot be gained through normal game play.

Characters on the bazaar Isnt ptw, it's pay isk to get ahead, and you can get all the shiny **** you want I'll still rip you apart with a cheaper ship.

Firstly the Character Bazaar is there because someone else paid the time to skill it and buying a character there is not PTW it is Trade with another player their Time for Plex/ISK.

Wow this is stupid. The key point here is someone else did the work, not you. You are swapping cash for the effort involved. That IS pay to win.

The rest of your post was to silly to even bother quoting.

Your way wouldn't have anyone earning a good sp character so it can be sold, so you'd have ptw with absolutely no effort involved for anyone.

increased skill point aquisition based on how much bucks you pay. E.g.
$15 = 1x
$25 = 2x
$35 = 3x

The key point here is someone else did the work, not you. You are swapping cash for the effort involved. That IS pay to win.

Not only is this a terrible idea that totally unbalances character progression. You are bad at math.

According to your suggestion... I can pay for just over 2 accounts and train my character 3 times as fast. Shouldn't you be paying at least 45 for 3x? even then it's way overpowered.

Totally against the idea.

Both SP and ISK can be earned in the game at a slow rate. ISK can be earned at a fast rate with cash, why not SP?

And more importantly, how does this affect you? What does it matter if someone increases their skills quicker? Does it impact you in any way other than give you a significant advantage over them that can never be bridged?

how is this OP? it's the same skills, the same cost just a shorter duration.

Both SP and ISK can be earned in the game at a slow rate. ISK can be earned at a fast rate with cash, why not SP?

And more importantly, how does this affect you? What does it matter if someone increases their skills quicker? Does it impact you in any way other than give you a significant advantage over them that can never be bridged?

You must be new to the idea of discount, you'll learn about it soon in big boy school.

Anyhoo, insults aside, how is this OP? it's the same skills, the same cost just a shorter duration.

on a more realistic level, this wouldnt be an option, it would be a requirement for anyone not a solo player, null-sec alliances will demand players always use the FOTM ship, and they will give them a timespan of the 3x skill-queue to get it, forcing people to either pay up, or go back to highsec.

This is just dishonest. If I cash in plex, I can buy more ships than you. I can buy better items than you and more of them.

and the character bazaar IS ptw.

just cause you can buy more ships don't mean you know how to fly them or even have the ability to to fit them...Unless you think exploding into space dust a form of winning.

This is just dishonest. If I cash in plex, I can buy more ships than you. I can buy better items than you and more of them.

and the character bazaar IS ptw.

Both ISK and the Char's SP was gained through normal game play, you are merely changing ownership. Your idea completely bypasses normal game play, so is therefore P2W.

Not all of us have spent 10 years in the game and have 170m SP characters Mag. People like you also whined about PLEX when that came out. It's only a matter of time before this game has to rebalance.

Just how much of that 170 Mil SP, allows me to fly a Crow or a Mega? The beauty with the SP system, is it allows new players to compete.

A quick search of the forum shows that there's quite a vocal crowd against cash for SP. It's hard to tell if it's a concensus, but they certainly get quite distraught if anyone mentions this idea.

Here's my thoughts.

I'd like to see tiers of subscription level. Each tier gives a multiplier to the rate of skill points aquired. It could also be done with a pool of shared attributes between your characters, but ultimatley it's the same result; increased skill point aquisition based on how much bucks you pay. E.g.
$15 = 1x
$25 = 2x
$35 = 3x
etc.

How you use these tiers is up to you. You could pay $35/month and apply it all to one character and get 3x the rate of skill points for that month. Or you could set up 3 characters all training at 1x rate. Or 1 character at 2x and 1 at 1x.

Like it or not, EVE's SP system is based on time and that's great if you've been playing a long time. But a new character takes months to get skilled up and most corps impose SP limits of about 10M; that's nearly 7 months training!! We want more players, we want them flying shineys and we want to blow them up.

So CPP, I've got money, I'd like to give that money to you; I've tried throwing it at the screen, but no luck yet. I'd be quite happy to spend a lot more money on this hobby as long as I get some entertainment from it. The one thing reducing my entertainment value is the long waiting game.


p.s. Please don't suggest buying a premade character.

how is plex not pay to win or the character bazarre pay to win??

This is just dishonest. If I cash in plex, I can buy more ships than you. I can buy better items than you and more of them.

and the character bazaar IS ptw.