Event ruined by the global flags
Any chance of a Gallente vs Caldari RP event was ruined.

THe Global flag isn't what bothered me, though I agree it did bring in a lot of people there just to shoot everyone.

The big problem I had was that you couldn't tell whose side everyone was on. i wanted to be shooting Gallente supporters and defending my Caldari brethren, but there's no way to know who that is.

Annnnd...CCP makes sure that the Gallente have more dreadnoughts alone than the Caldari have capitals, period. As I said, a complete and totally railroaded set-up.

No killmail was generated for the Titan, I take it? Would be pretty funny to see the details of that since I suspect 90% of the damage was caused by the CCP-run dreadfleet and the player involvement in affecting the outcome of this event was effectively zero.

Dude, it doesn't matter. CCP scripted the event for the Titan to go down. Whatever happened with the capsuleers, you were going to lose. That's why they brought in more Moro's then the Caldari had cap ships, and that's how they run live events. If you don't like being a punching bag, don't be there in the future.

No killmail was generated for the Titan, I take it? Would be pretty funny to see the details of that since I suspect 90% of the damage was caused by the CCP-run dreadfleet and the player involvement in affecting the outcome of this event was effectively zero.

I think the only part that really was affected by player actions was the DUST guys - I think if Caldari had a victory in the DUST battles, then the ground forces would have re-established contact with the titan and the titan would have glassed all the Gallente civilians as threatened earlier before dieing.

Face it - in the Gallente home system, the only reason the Caldari fleet stayed there so long was not due to ship dominance in space, but the threat to glass all the Gallente civilians on the planet if the Gallente attacked the Caldari fleet in orbit. It makes perfect sense that the Gallente brought and overwhelming space fleet to fight the Caldari in a Gallente home system.

According to battle reports, the Caldari Dusties had a narrow lead over the Gallente Dusties for much, if not all, of the space battle. But it's a good lesson for them: CCP will make sure the Gallente win.

They said the Caldari had a lead in instance battles, but the Gallente were ahead in Mercenary contracts.

I don't know what that means, I play eve not DUST.

They said that the lead in instance battles was 6 out of 600 battles they said. I am assuming there was some threshold where a large enough percentage on the Caldari side would have triggerred a re-establishment of ground control, and a 1% lead isn't that significant.

Having said that, I don't care for DUST having an impact on FW, but that's not in our control.

What matters, as I understand, are victories. And the Caldari had more of those. Not that it matters. Oh, and it's not really a fair playing field if for us to win, we have to have a huge margin, but for you to win, you just have to not lose by a huge amount. But that's not what this was. Let's be honest: CCP wrote the scripts, map, and dialogue for this weeks ago, and the players being there or not meant nothing to the outcome.

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With that I agree, this battle was definitely tilted against the Caldari. But

a) The current setup with a few Caldari ships in the Gallente home system was already a losing proposition.
b) Maybe the captain of the Leviathon decided against glassing 10's of millions of civilians at the last moment. If I were Caldari, I'd be somewhat proud of that. (Or if A gallente ship in a similar situation decided not to glass 10's of millions of Caldari citizens, I'd also be proud for my faction).

The Leviathon was going to die either way. At least it didn't result in the mass death of civilians.

Though, to add to "this was a setup for the Caldari to lose" - Do you think it would have been a victory if the Leviathon mass murdered civilians? Either way, I think it would look bad for the Caldari.

Oh, no, CCP didn't even want us to have that. They had the captain keep spooling up the DD device to fire it at the planet, but ten seconds before the titan died, so that Gallente could have their "heroic victory over the genocidal Caldari". There are some logs posted around, take a look.

I guess when you side with the evil side in RP, they try to do evil things

What matters, as I understand, are victories. And the Caldari had more of those. Not that it matters. Oh, and it's not really a fair playing field if for us to win, we have to have a huge margin, but for you to win, you just have to not lose by a huge amount. But that's not what this was. Let's be honest: CCP wrote the scripts, map, and dialogue for this weeks ago, and the players being there or not meant nothing to the outcome.

Well that was to be expected of CCP, screwing up yet again ... so much for the sandbox ...
Would love to bring my own supers to galente prime and hold those galenteans hostage, but as that's not possible will have to wait till CCP decides to side with the Caldari for once ....

Ah OK. I actually missed the death of the titan since I had be on a meeting at work :( (I had the screen on, but only partial attention and sound off).

Ah well, my point is this entire situation could be nothing but a loss for the Caldari from the very first time the titan was put in orbit. But yea, I think it would have looked a lot better for the Caldari if they chose to not try and wipe out masses of civilians.

I guess when you side with the evil side in RP, they try to do evil things

THe Global flag isn't what bothered me, though I agree it did bring in a lot of people there just to shoot everyone.

The big problem I had was that you couldn't tell whose side everyone was on. i wanted to be shooting Gallente supporters and defending my Caldari brethren, but there's no way to know who that is.