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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Random on 29/08/2005 19:26:25
 Originally by: BM Reseller
Exactly! That's why it's pathetic when PvPer complain about the carebears in the south. It's ok when PvPers choose to mine and npc hunt, but God forbid anyone else to choose when they want to PvP. PvPers always expect everyone in the game to drop what they are doing and help the guys that choose to PvP.
You ever notice that the guys that mine and don't fight back don't get harrassed often? PvPers aren't going to hang around an area for long when there is no one to kill or fight with. If you choose to engage in PvP most of the time then it's your choice. The pirates are going to be where the action is. The miners and carebears will still be in Stain long after the PvPers are gone.
Yes, ur right, that is why cujo whants to kick all the cearbears from stain, cuz they whana controle when to pvp and whent not to. That is how a pvp alliance/corp is runed, pvp when needed, not when u whant to(altho pvp'ers usly whant to). Mine when needed not when u whant to.
Spelling is an option, not a must.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bared Bel''Medar on 29/08/2005 19:34:46
Originally by: BM Reseller
Exactly! That's why it's pathetic when PvPer complain about the carebears in the south. It's ok when PvPers choose to mine and npc hunt, but God forbid anyone else to choose when they want to PvP. PvPers always expect everyone in the game to drop what they are doing and help the guys that choose to PvP.
You ever notice that the guys that mine and don't fight back don't get harrassed often? PvPers aren't going to hang around an area for long when there is no one to kill or fight with. If you choose to engage in PvP most of the time then it's your choice. The pirates are going to be where the action is. The miners and carebears will still be in Stain long after the PvPers are gone.
Originally by: dantes inferno
we mine, we NPC, the same thing every other person in eve does..you do relise pvp pilots can and will do other things when they need isk..their is nothing which says cause you pvp you dont do other things to, its not like were all fighting 23/7 52 weeks a year
I beg to differ on many things: one, anyone who is mining in space i'm fighting to protect and wont defend when its needed, and only convenient should be labled KOS. More than once during the esoteria campaign I gave orders to let slip when and where a mining op was JUST so I could use the worthless bastards as bait. True, pvpers need to rebuild lost assets, true, we are known to take breaks, but anyone who is in MY space, making isk, and not putting your assets where they are needed... like not getting me what I and other pvpers need to fight is completely worthless, and much more, an ofront to my guardianship. I return to my statement, if you wont fight, and you wont provide immediately, then you should be labled KOS. dont hide behind the logic of its only a game, because I can play that game, too. You want to fight when its convient and call it a game, I want to hunt you down and destroy everything you have... its only a game.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Ms Manners
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:22:00 -
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The following is from Celticjim as he has let his credit card lapse and unable to post in the forums until later this evening.
Khaerie, I would have normally thought the same thing, but experience has taught me otherwise. In retrospect, I believe bringing things to the forefront of public attention is potentially the best thing to have issues
resolved. Maybe if I had done this almost two years back, Old Farts may have still been part of the Stain Alliance instead of us leaving after being battered about by internal strife caused directly or indirectly by others. If any of what is currently going on has any merit, it was only a matter of time.
Celticjim
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ethan Tomlinson on 29/08/2005 20:38:55
^^ this is what makes this game so damn fun. THERE IS SO MUCH GOD DAMN DRAMA. i thought about going hostile to stain when we left SE for a second time. but do to popular opinion that we wanted to be friendly with SE I didn't. so we hunted and did our thing mainly in curse and catch but our miners used FAT area mostly cause we have allways been rooted there. then cujo kicks us out of FAT area and thats when it all went to ****. cujo and a few founding members of our corp have been bickering since may 2004 or so....thats nothing new but to basically stab SGE in the back with its history in eve isn't too smart a move.
In my opinion stain alliance died a long time ago. SE is a new alliance that operates in stain space. IT IS NOT STAIN ALLIANCE.
Flame on
edit. btw none of this should represent the opinion of people in my corp
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:42:00 -
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I must admit I look upon this thread with delight. I had very limited interaction with SE/SA and I thought all the distgustingly arrogant corps (MASS, EVER...etc) had left. Did not know that some of the characters mentioned here had the same vices.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson
In my opinion stain alliance died a long time ago. SE is a new alliance that operates in stain space. IT IS NOT STAIN ALLIANCE.
Signed..
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Eversor
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:35:00 -
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From a "third person perspective" it seems obvious that there is a serious disconnect between the different leaders and their populace.
SE coming up to the North I think surprised a lot of us interested in the political dynamics of the game (although there had been some rumours). I am curious about what is their endgame up here?? Support BoB?? Take over a new region on the other side of the galaxy?? Whatever the answer is I hope they are having fun in cloud ring, seems like G-IRON-IMP with their home-court advantage are.
I don't think any of the Northern Alliances are out to destroy SE, they are only defending themselves in their region against a clear and present danger (BoB and Friends). It would probably had been better to stay out of the Northern conflict especially since it seems that things at home are not that well to begin with (news to me).
But then again perhaps someone thought that marching North to the drums of war might be a good distraction from the more pressing issues in their home region. It wouldn't be the first time that "leaders" have used that tactic, which most of the time fails...
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.08.29 23:01:00 -
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not bothering to read the thread amarr ceo ego is more inflated than mine and thats saying alot
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Digger Dave
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:16:00 -
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All I can add is that no one in game should ever trust Cujo. Have far more respect for Tank CEO than Cujo, never backstab from him. Cujo attempted to "merge" our corp with another while all were away for Thanksgiving in US. All lockers cleared, all minerals stolen, only battleship bpo (along with all other bpo's) stolen! The week before it happened he was "loseing" one or two battleships per day in nonexistant battles as he moved battleships to new corp. He made mistake of claiming one "loss" as I was moving minerals through same system near 9rq.
So it's not just a huge "ego", he's a crook!
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: thebold
gwan cujy you kick those naught carebears out
i dont know who u are calling carebears, but judging from mass killsite u are throwing a brick from a glasshouse
and nice to know mass stance towards this species making Storm Guard kos thing, seeing since u are in fact the head of mass during triggers absence
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Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:44:00 -
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cujo for t3h lose
abriana for emperor \o/      
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In War There Are No Runners Up...
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Random
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: CopeLand
Originally by: thebold
gwan cujy you kick those naught carebears out
i dont know who u are calling carebears, but judging from mass killsite u are throwing a brick from a glasshouse
and nice to know mass stance towards this species making Storm Guard kos thing, seeing since u are in fact the head of mass during triggers absence
More like the neck, File is the head, trigger is the peeeneeesss hihi
And We have not posted any stance to any1 in this mater, THB we preaty much have no idea whats going on. And from what ive seen most of us just posted here to respond to the alt who was flaiming us.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Digger Dave
All I can add is that no one in game should ever trust Cujo. Have far more respect for Tank CEO than Cujo, never backstab from him. Cujo attempted to "merge" our corp with another while all were away for Thanksgiving in US. All lockers cleared, all minerals stolen, only battleship bpo (along with all other bpo's) stolen! The week before it happened he was "loseing" one or two battleships per day in nonexistant battles as he moved battleships to new corp. He made mistake of claiming one "loss" as I was moving minerals through same system near 9rq.
So it's not just a huge "ego", he's a crook!
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:04:00 -
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why alts can speak up too if hes right hes right as abdalion said if u dont like what the alts have to say just dont reply
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 30/08/2005 02:30:56
Originally by: Random
Originally by: CopeLand
Originally by: thebold
gwan cujy you kick those naught carebears out
i dont know who u are calling carebears, but judging from mass killsite u are throwing a brick from a glasshouse
and nice to know mass stance towards this species making Storm Guard kos thing, seeing since u are in fact the head of mass during triggers absence
More like the neck, File is the head, trigger is the peeeneeesss hihi
And We have not posted any stance to any1 in this mater, THB we preaty much have no idea whats going on. And from what ive seen most of us just posted here to respond to the alt who was flaiming us.
well tbh seems the bold was responding to the topic and calling Storm Guard Elite carebears and supporting cujos decision to out of the blue make Storm Guard Elite KOS
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Digger Dave
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:33:00 -
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No alt here, one of my three main accounts. If this not a name Cujo remembers try Alakazzam, it's owned by a corp mate now after fallout with CCP and leaving the game over an exploit kill which CCP did nothing about. Stayed away from game all of two weeks, an addict here. If you feel it's an alt due to lack of posts here, I hardly ever read forums much less post. |
Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:35:00 -
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I think bold was refering to cujos promise to trim out SE and make it what it once was.
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:40:00 -
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true change and positive growth usually meets alot of whining because those who don't contribute usually outnumber those who do contribute. don't be botherd by those who make the most noise, as they could be making far better use of there energy trying to better the whole.
but as far as egos go... better hope the leaders realize they are there to lead the men for the goals of the larger orginization, because real leaders lead for the poeple they are with, not the statues they think might get built for them
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Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2005.08.30 03:01:00 -
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I'll vouch for DD there Fallout you nublet. He is definitely not an alt. Review names before posting garbage. Just wanted to stated Miss Manners post was indeed mine. Credit card got comprimised earlier and forgot to switch it out.
CJ
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DeathForMeh
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Posted - 2005.08.30 03:51:00 -
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This threads a joke if you dont like the leadership voice your opion with them and the masses of stain or leave, whatever you want. But random o"mg a comand dection was made omg he thinks hes running the show omg lets post a whiny thread about it infront of all of eve" is nothing more then a joke. You admit your a alt the question is whos alt? I mean hell you could be a tourn soul alt trying to stir the pot or whom ever it may be.
I voted this thread a 1/5
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Camador on 30/08/2005 04:05:00
Right- DFM, youre the last person who should be commenting on stain affairs.
its perfectly valid anyways.
The alt is not trolling or flaming so its perfectly fine.
If you don't like reading alt made threads, or believe they have no merit, . It's as simple as that.then don't reply then
obviously theres some backstory to the alt's story. and thus its valid in this forum.
given your history with stain and ability to spell and use punctuation... stop posting.
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DeathForMeh
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: DeathForMeh on 30/08/2005 04:26:15
Originally by: Camador
Edited by: Camador on 30/08/2005 04:05:00
Right- DFM, youre the last person who should be commenting on stain affairs.
its perfectly valid anyways.
The alt is not trolling or flaming so its perfectly fine.
If you don't like reading alt made threads, or believe they have no merit, . It's as simple as that.then don't reply then
obviously theres some backstory to the alt's story. and thus its valid in this forum.
given your history with stain and ability to spell and use punctuation... stop posting.
wait.... history with stain.... as I remember you and your alt were made kos after given 5 or 6 chances by volchaire to stop back stabbing stain and friends.
The alts story is not valid as it could be your alt for all I know. It gains some but not much validty if a stain person post saying its their alt.
I never said it was not a valid thread, I said it was a joke. Sure it conforms within the rules but really if the problems were so bad why arenĘt their 50x stain people posting, with their mains, backing the alt up? Why have we been able to gather some of the biggest fleets I've seen in all my times in stain. Why havenĘt droves of corps left stain?
It's simple there nothing backing these claims up and this threads nothing more then a joke on people like yourself who cant wait for stain to die out. Well to bad for you its not going to. Now stop trolling me and go back to whatever it is you do.
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:33:00 -
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your view is quite distorted, and ive got stain to thank for literally stealing a pos from me. Thanks. i really appreciate being promised id get reimbursed and then magically "LOSING" about 500mil worth of POS hardware.
apparently its not a "joke" if stain has sge on KOS. inflated numbers and huge numbers dont mean anything. on equal numbers against anyone who can fight and it ends badly. go check the boards.
oh ill not only wait for stain to die out, but ill actively come and help. but uhm, you must know alot about that right, playing on your alt while carebearing it away in stain.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.08.30 05:44:00 -
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"well tbh seems the bold was responding to the topic and calling Storm Guard Elite carebears and supporting cujos decision to out of the blue make Storm Guard Elite KOS"
atm cope mass has no stance on this, as stated no one really has a fantest idea of the situation, an bold was refering to booting out those who just mine 23/7 no matter how much hostiles in the areas, from what ive heard from some sge members it is just a case of pride gone out of proportion,and with luck it will be sorted out soon
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.08.30 05:56:00 -
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I used to be in XF and have some vague ideas about what Stain were doing but since I moved up north I've had no idea about Stain. I just thought they had OMGWTFNAP'd everyone and sat around their space jolly pleased with themselves. I'm not judging anybody but from this thread it does seem that Stain have their own internal crisis to take care of and perhaps this wasn't the time to be wandering to the other side of the map.
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 30/08/2005 06:07:41
Just so ppl interested in the topic know, the only corp talked about here that is actually in Stain Empire atm, is Species.
Mass, Collective, Storm Guard Elite, Tyrell and some old Stain Alliance corps are not in Stain Empire atm. They were together in The Coalliton and have remained friendly and nap with Stain Empire ever since they all left about the same time, Mass and Species the first ones i believe.
Since then Species have rejoined Stain Empire and are the only corp in question in the alliance atm. All these Corps have been friends for along time ever since the formation of Stain Alliance, now however Storm Guard Elite have been made KOS by Species for some reason or another and have already been some casulties in that nice move by what seems to be controlling force in Stain Empire, i.e Species
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:21:00 -
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And dantes, here is a thread called Stain vs Storm Guard, and out comes bold saying gj cujo kickout the carebears.. what possible deduction can i get from that? And u know that for ppl outside of mass, whenever bold or trigger say something its interpreted as mass¦s stand on the subject so...
thats understandable cope, but in all honesty mass has no stance on this, most mass members are not aware that it is happening, and those who do have no idea of why. for obvious reasons im not overly happy with this situation and hope to god its gets sorted out asap.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:45:00 -
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Edited by: mahhy on 30/08/2005 06:45:53
Originally by: CopeLand
And dantes, here is a thread called Stain vs Storm Guard, and out comes bold saying gj cujo kickout the carebears.. what possible deduction can i get from that? And u know that for ppl outside of mass, whenever bold or trigger say something its interpreted as mass¦s stand on the subject so...
The only official informmation comes from Trigger, if/when he ever posts on the forums
I doubt anything like "gj cujo kickout the carebears" can be interpretted as an official message from MASS! Everyones allowed personal opinions...
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Duke North
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:48:00 -
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I dont understand the problem??
SGE chosed to leave SE easy as that.
They are still friends at least to me.
But you all know we need to protect our space and cant have non SE members running around in our space we alredy have to many of em as it is now.
God Luck SGE in you new goals
Regards
Duke North
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Bared
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Posted - 2005.08.30 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Bared on 30/08/2005 07:08:04
/Emote Raises a hand
Ignore me... wrong char.
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