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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.09.01 22:58:00 -
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this is turning interesting. SE v MASS is brewing, what started all this thread again? 
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Nollaf Samoht
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:10:00 -
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who made cujo emperor anyway ?
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Trakh Shardan on 01/09/2005 23:46:41
Originally by: Kozak I'm getting tired of spelling this out, but the lack of brain power by some people in this thread is amazing.
Something happens that puts SGE on a neutral basis towards SE. SGE are told why this happens and how to fix it. SGE doesn't do anything and begins pulling out members from Catch region. Few days later, after no resolution (we think that SGE decided they would rather have a neutral stance toward SE), SE member begin shooting NON BLUE TARGETS, AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE IN STAIN SPACE.
What don't you guys understand? SGE left alliance, still had access to everything in Stain. Someone from their own corp F's it up for them and we are to blame? It's a choice to allow an ex Stain corp to be in our space, it's not a given. If you are an ass about it, you won't be able to enter that space. We didn't start an empire war, we just said that you can't enter Stain anymore, that's it.
There are many ex Stain corps that still have access to Stain and have possitive standings.
I bet U just like shooting ppl that helped U befor. nice one imho thats like a knife in the back of SGE. but then again U wound care less cos Ur right and the rest of eve is wrong. and about low brain stuff this is ment for ya : the pot calling the kettle black
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Wawollie
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:59:00 -
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Edited by: Wawollie on 02/09/2005 00:04:31
Quote: What don't you guys understand? SGE left alliance, still had access to everything in Stain. Someone from their own corp F's it up for them and we are to blame?
Why did you shoot a member of Redemption ? And don't say 'you don't know all the facts' as I think I do, on this one. 
I think it was an accident, ppl got heaten up and started firing. But then the issue got blown up by Amarr CEO's response. EGO.
Correct if I'm wrong.
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.09.02 00:08:00 -
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Just to clear any confusion about the opinion of MASS the corporation on this matter.
All posts by any members of MASS are based on the opinion of that person. The only people that can make an official post are MASS' CEOs & directors and of course, they make it clear it is the view of the corporation.
Let's not get side tracked to the real problem the OP talked about and that is Stain making SGE KOS. All the bits in between are a filler and for the most part are edging people on.
My earlier comments were done in humour (except the one about Dray).
In all seriousness, I wish for SE/SGE/RI to sort out these problems as soon as possible. It makes me a sad panda to see all our old friends agressing each other when the history and ties go far deeper than the minor surface scratches that are the result of these problems.
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.09.02 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus Species didn't seem to mind SGE presence in FAT-6P (what this is REALLY about, despite what anyone else may lead you to believe) when SGE offered their POS for use during the FIX invasion.
I think you guys need to do whatever it takes to work this out because from where I'm sitting my alliance looks pretty foolish.
Fine me 
LO*******L
says a lot about the policy on someone voicing an opinion and this is in no way meant to stir up trouble between shadow and SE leadership. he had an opinion doesn't mean he has anything against the alliance. BTW why did species have to go and take that station in 5-N i went up there a couple times and almost no one was using it. What was the problem with it remaining in rampages name. It didn't mean species or anyone else in stain couldn't use it. It just meant that species didn't have station management privies. I believe to resolve this matter right now the right thing to do would be for SE to allow SGE back in stain again as SE doesn't seem to be using it much anyways as well as to allow SGE members to take back the station in 5-N for sentimental purposes. People might still hate each other but it would prob end a lot of hostilities. If u guys spent half the time in LGK shooting at VIRII as you have writing in this silly yet entertaining and much needed thread i think they would be gone and there kill ratio would be a lot closer to 1/1.
as far as the syndicate debackle goes:
u dont leave the house when theres milk boiling in the kitchen do u? it might go sour:P
does that make any sense? hope so

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Xelios
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Posted - 2005.09.02 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 02/09/2005 01:46:46
Originally by: Azeusus this is turning interesting. SE v MASS is brewing, what started all this thread again? 
As Sceartan said my post has absolutely nothing to do with MASS, it's my views and mine alone. The same can be said for everyone who isn't a director in MASS, and even the directors speak their own minds from time to time. Do we really need to start putting a disclaimer at the end of our posts or will you be able to handle not assuming things? 
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Digger Dave
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Posted - 2005.09.02 04:34:00 -
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It all revolves around drama queen Cujo. He gets his panties in a twist anytime thigs don't go his way, and loves to cause strife. Also loves to make threats in game and bully alliance members and friends alike. Easy solution for all to set Cujo KOS and pod from the game. He's so "Machiavelen" he could give "The Prince" training in slimmy politics. If Cujo's mouth is open, then lies are coming out.
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.09.02 06:07:00 -
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This thread has blown out of out proportion (however amusing it might be, due to the strong feelings of all sides involved, something missing in EVE since CA fell ). But I think personal or corp grudges should be dropped and think of the things that made us form the coalition. As I said I have always hold all old stain corps with high regard, weather they are still SE or not. Think outside the box. This is not about just 1 or 2 corps being KOS, its not about who will win should there be a war ahead, it about a good thing being flushed down the toilet, causing unrepairable damage to bonds that have stood strong for a very fecking long time. Its shouldnt be about a grudge of 2 ppl or corps, it shouldnt be about 1 station or 500 stations for that matter, both SGE n Species are in the coalition after all. WAKE UP ppl. Arrange a TS meeting with all the corps involved n sort it out. Give kharie kick-mute rights on the TS server an all ll be well ;)
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.09.02 06:18:00 -
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Hey guys.
Sad days indeed. I ask you to stop this bickering. I request that both parties (species and sge) meet me for a talk. Please leave this crap out of the forums for now. For old times sake, I ask this of you.
Please send me an eve mail if you can attend a short meeting with me on this matter.
Aeryn Sun fmr. Fleet Admiral of the Stain Empire
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2005.09.02 06:25:00 -
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I blame it all on Aeryn.
If he wouldn't have left the game we'd all still be happy following his command to pwn something somewhere :D
Signed A sad panda -- The worst thing you can do when suggesting a solution to a problem is to provide alternatives, people end up arguing the alternatives instead of implementing the fix. |

mahhy
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Posted - 2005.09.02 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus Species didn't seem to mind SGE presence in FAT-6P (what this is REALLY about, despite what anyone else may lead you to believe) when SGE offered their POS for use during the FIX invasion.
I think you guys need to do whatever it takes to work this out because from where I'm sitting my alliance looks pretty foolish.
Most sensible thing an SE member has said yet, and again its from Alowishus.
Why can't the leadership on both realize how badly you're behaving? Personally I couldn't care a less what happened, or who did what, Species and SGE should not be firing on each other/fighting.
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.09.02 06:59:00 -
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Hey Arthur, how are things.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.09.02 07:12:00 -
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lol at this, cujo a tip just be nice to ur friends in mass, species would have been run over long ago if it wasent for mass......
Well im gonna keep on watching this forum pretty funny, but im not that chocked about it =) _________________ * Stizzum orwhatever still owes me 15milj from bragging in local and lost a bet, 5monts or someting have gone since then. And counting * |

Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2005.09.02 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aeryn Sun Hey Arthur, how are things.
I more or less left Eve shortly after you left :( Had some fun in Feyth at some point for a short time till we nap'ed down there. Since then i just cba to login and do 30 jumps to get decent fights. Paying for 4 eve accounts while i really only play wow these days.
And yourself? back in eve?
For me eve seems to be mostly about memories of the good old days, where i'd fly with a gang of yours or some of the IGS guys into curse, to lure CA out. Oh the grass was greener. Altough, if Amarr CEOs idiots keep shooting my friends in Stain i'll logon now and then for some fun, as my 3 pvp chars are logged off in stain (I always said Stain is and will always be my home). Would be sad to shoot SE, altough i feel some of them deserve it, they have brought dirt over the name that we built over a period of more than a year.
Guess we'll see what the future brings. -- The worst thing you can do when suggesting a solution to a problem is to provide alternatives, people end up arguing the alternatives instead of implementing the fix. |

Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.09.02 08:09:00 -
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Lets talk.
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Freeky Frenchy
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Posted - 2005.09.02 11:13:00 -
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Cujo please do the honourable thing and step down as emporer, your childish comments are an embarassment to all Stain members 
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.09.02 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Freeky Frenchy Cujo please do the honourable thing and step down as emporer, your childish comments are an embarassment to all Stain members 
hey if u guys voted him to be emperor its ur own fault, he have to do his time and destroy stain to 100%, So think before u stainers let him get in the postion.
lol _________________ * Stizzum orwhatever still owes me 15milj from bragging in local and lost a bet, 5monts or someting have gone since then. And counting * |

Capt Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.09.02 12:59:00 -
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I have not been playing EvE very long, but this is what I missed in other MMO's.
I just love this cloak and dagger stuff, and the intrigue! Damn this is the reason I play EvE. It is to see who back stabs who.
I say more of this PLEASE!
This is what makes EvE different from other MMO's. It is the HUMAN Factor and where there are HUMAN's involved, there is always DRAMA!
I say keep it coming!
Regards,
Capt Spitfire
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2005.09.02 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Capt Spitfire I have not been playing EvE very long, but this is what I missed in other MMO's.
I just love this cloak and dagger stuff, and the intrigue! Damn this is the reason I play EvE. It is to see who back stabs who.
I say more of this PLEASE!
This is what makes EvE different from other MMO's. It is the HUMAN Factor and where there are HUMAN's involved, there is always DRAMA!
I say keep it coming!
Regards,
Capt Spitfire
I dunno there's actually alot of emo kids and drama queens in wow :P -- The worst thing you can do when suggesting a solution to a problem is to provide alternatives, people end up arguing the alternatives instead of implementing the fix. |

corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:28:00 -
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SGE and MASS versus Stain would be interesting...I know who's side I would be on
Down with Cujo
" Stay Frosty "
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Dray
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sceartan My earlier comments were done in humour (except the one about Dray).
thats it, me and you are history, dont even think you can borrow my gimp suit again....

I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.09.02 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks SGE and MASS versus Stain would be interesting...I know who's side I would be on
Down with Cujo
I highly doubt that would happen, and the fact is were not fighting SGE, we set them to neutral do to recent events and said they are not welcome in our space till they apologize.
When we shoot them its nothing personal, its just our NBSI policy. I like alot of people in SGE but I think there are alot of arrogant f*cks in the corp also, while I hate to make the whole corp suffer I think cujo made the right choice by givving them the boot in hope that the resonable members will give *sshats a boot.
The fact of the matter is after we all rejoined stain SGE has changed, and when they left stain for the second time they never spoke a word to anyone why they left or what problems they were having they just left, continued to mine in fat, NPC in fat and do thier own thing without defending our space.
Hell they prolly would of continued to be allowed to do this as long as they stayed respectful to us considering it was our space and not thiers since they pulled out of the alliance. But they decided to ***** how we were running our space so they can ***** about it if they want they just can't do it in our space no more. We gave them 2-3 days after this decsion before we even fired on any of them giving them a proper chance to get everyone infomed of the situation.
think that sums up my point of view on this situation
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Taurequis
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Posted - 2005.09.02 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aeryn Sun Lets talk.
Hi Aeryn,
A pleasure to see you back.
My best regards,
Taurequis
Orator (Retired) Empire Logistics
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Freeky Frenchy
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Posted - 2005.09.02 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: corporal hicks SGE and MASS versus Stain would be interesting...I know who's side I would be on
Down with Cujo
I highly doubt that would happen, and the fact is were not fighting SGE, we set them to neutral do to recent events and said they are not welcome in our space till they apologize.
When we shoot them its nothing personal, its just our NBSI policy. I like alot of people in SGE but I think there are alot of arrogant f*cks in the corp also, while I hate to make the whole corp suffer I think cujo made the right choice by givving them the boot in hope that the resonable members will give *sshats a boot.
The fact of the matter is after we all rejoined stain SGE has changed, and when they left stain for the second time they never spoke a word to anyone why they left or what problems they were having they just left, continued to mine in fat, NPC in fat and do thier own thing without defending our space.
Hell they prolly would of continued to be allowed to do this as long as they stayed respectful to us considering it was our space and not thiers since they pulled out of the alliance. But they decided to ***** how we were running our space so they can ***** about it if they want they just can't do it in our space no more. We gave them 2-3 days after this decsion before we even fired on any of them giving them a proper chance to get everyone infomed of the situation.
think that sums up my point of view on this situation
Cujo made it personnel by making us look like a bunch of idiots.
Anyway your points noted Flameboy 
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.09.02 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
Originally by: Alowishus Species didn't seem to mind SGE presence in FAT-6P (what this is REALLY about, despite what anyone else may lead you to believe) when SGE offered their POS for use during the FIX invasion.
I think you guys need to do whatever it takes to work this out because from where I'm sitting my alliance looks pretty foolish.
Most sensible thing an SE member has said yet, and again its from Alowishus.
Why can't the leadership on both realize how badly you're behaving? Personally I couldn't care a less what happened, or who did what, Species and SGE should not be firing on each other/fighting.
Well, right after the standing were changed, I talked to a couple SGE in local near FAT and asked them what is going on with their members and to contact us ASAP to work it out. They said they are already talking about it between themselves. That was a few days ago.
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.09.02 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 02/09/2005 16:27:36
Originally by: FalloutBoy
the fact is were not fighting SGE, we set them to neutral do to recent events and said they are not welcome in our space till they apologize.
Apologize for what exactly? For you ganking members? And if you are not fighitng, then why are u ganking the said corp?
Originally by: FalloutBoy
When we shoot them its nothing personal, its just our NBSI policy. I like alot of people in SGE but I think there are alot of arrogant f*cks in the corp also, while I hate to make the whole corp suffer I think cujo made the right choice by givving them the boot in hope that the resonable members will give *sshats a boot.
So u are saying Cujo made Storm Guard kos in hope they would kick some of their members out? If Cujo wants to control who stays and who doesnt in other corps than his own, isnt he reaching a bit out of his territory?
Originally by: FalloutBoy
The fact of the matter is after we all rejoined stain SGE has changed, and when they left stain for the second time they never spoke a word to anyone why they left or what problems they were having they just left, continued to mine in fat, NPC in fat and do thier own thing without defending our space.
They may or may not have changed, you wouldnt know anything about it, since you aint in the corp now are you?
I dont know why or how they left Stain, but from what ive heard the things that were discussed before Species and SGE rejoined Stain, did not happen nor was there any cooperation going on.
There also were no SGE presence to speak of in FAT, most of them are in curse anyways, and they do continued to defend that space and the corridor, fighting mutual enemies. To say they dont is a lie, and quite contradictory given the lack of SE members in that area and the amount of enemies running around in corridor and stain space, like viiri,imp and damage ind etc...
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Hell they prolly would of continued to be allowed to do this as long as they stayed respectful to us considering it was our space and not thiers since they pulled out of the alliance.
i.e out of something you call disrespectful u make them kos. What is that? oh yes as has been said many times, personal vendictiveness of 1 member of SE now makes up alliance politics. And as far as i know its SE space, not Species space, right?
Originally by: FalloutBoy
But they decided to ***** how we were running our space so they can ***** about it if they want they just can't do it in our space no more. We gave them 2-3 days after this decsion before we even fired on any of them giving them a proper chance to get everyone infomed of the situation.
LOL. i seriously doubt there was any *****ing nor was there any attempts of any SGE to tell Species how to run their corp, space, alliance... i think Viiri have more to say about that tbh.
You just made a former SA corp and friend, KOS for no reason and your attempt to justfy that action are hillarous as are your attempts to wash your hands of the subsequent actions you took to carry out your ceos wishes(personal grugdes)
And you keep referring to Curse as your space(i assume when you say yours u mean SE space, not just Species)when in fact it is "The Five" space. So cut the crap about you shooting neutrals in your space,mmmk. Ganking in Curse and defending SE space is quite different.
As i have said before, so be it. Continue to be arrogant and call others arrogant while you are at it.
It has now been days since Storm Guard made it clear they wish to resolve the issue. You have not answeared that at all. And Storm Guard and Species are still at KOS status. that is your wish clearly.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.02 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nollaf Samoht who made cujo emperor anyway ?
Stain did when THEY asked the collation to rejoin. --------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination http://ZeldereX.com/?topic=7599
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.09.02 17:26:00 -
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Betcha they regret it, huh? --------------------------------------
We are The... Reikoku o.0
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dj dannygroov
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Posted - 2005.09.02 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
Originally by: Nollaf Samoht who made cujo emperor anyway ?
Stain did when THEY asked the collation to rejoin.
out of pure survival as their fate drew near. Although, its not that different from the two now, as Cujo is doing it himself.
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