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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 31/08/2005 10:59:55
 Originally by: Trooper B99
Personally I think it was a nice diplomatic post, but of course, thats me. 
well yeah, it was very diplomatic in the sense that it said;
im right
you are wrong and
we dont have to know why
in a coupla paragraphs
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Trooper B99 on 31/08/2005 11:30:11
*grin* Well, thats what alot of diplomacy is. saying a little in alot.
You could also read it as
SE says SGE did wrong
SE says they offered a solution
SGE didn't take that offer
Both sides will now shoot each other
Ask privately if you want to know why
Hmm.. i wonder if i can make a hiaku out of that . . .
Freezing black deepspace
Erstwhile comrades are fighting
Look on unknowning
I've also seen someone from SGE saying they don;t know why this has happened. Well there is probably a reason, but it doesn't have to be on public forums, information seekers that we all are.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:45:00 -
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se claimes that sge shouldnt be in fat cause its se space..what i find amusing is that i didnt se a single se member fighting to reclaim that space from fix (apart from the former coalition corps who at the time were not se),i would guess that sge have more right to access fat than the any se corp..they fought to reclaim the space when se did jack (obviosuly with the exption of the former coalition corps who have rejoined se)
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Hobblah
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
...what i find amusing is that i didnt se a single se member fighting to reclaim that space from fix...
This causes so many flashbacks from the CFS(Before FIX) and XF times that it is funny (at least for me). 
-Hobblah
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.08.31 12:40:00 -
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Hey guys.
The corps that left SE after the CA war most did because as Nick pointed out, were bored to ****, and a hefty change of scenery was needed.
But interesting still.
/Aeryn
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.08.31 14:04:00 -
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What don't you guys understand? SGE still had mining and NPC rights in all of Stain since they left. What made the standings change to nuetral was something that happened between some members of SGE in regards to the a certain station that is controlled now by another SE corporation since SGE left the alliance. It was arrogance and disrespect by those members of SGE. It could all have gone away if they had swallowed some pride and appologized. That didn't happen.
Now drop it.
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Neil
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Posted - 2005.08.31 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak
What don't you guys understand? SGE still had mining and NPC rights in all of Stain since they left. What made the standings change to nuetral was something that happened between some members of SGE in regards to the a certain station that is controlled now by another SE corporation since SGE left the alliance. It was arrogance and disrespect by those members of SGE. It could all have gone away if they had swallowed some pride and appologized. That didn't happen.
Now drop it.
So a director of Species and a director of SGE have a difference of opinion (Dont know what its about). So your solution is to pod someone who isnt aware of the spat and is an easy kill?  Even I didnt think Species were that gutless?
To compound matters you even bring the whole alliance into your fight and Im sure they're dont know whats its about. 
Arrogance and dis-respect are atrributes associated with your corp dont even try and taint us with it.
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qrac
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Posted - 2005.08.31 17:47:00 -
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how many former cfs corporations are there in se?
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:51:00 -
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Okay, how about this novel idea. Instead of sitting here responding to an alt and coming up with complaints that are only meant to hurt and slam, let's just contact me in game and see what we can do to start working this out.
I'm not promising miracles and not everything is going to be worked out to the pleasure of every person, that is flat impossible.
But going over stuff so darn old and holding grudges for things from the absolute past I'm not so willing to address without good reason. As everyone here has enjoyed pointing out, there are a lot of new faces in the regime. I am not willing to make them accountable for times that they were not around just as I'm not going to punish someone for being a pirate 6 months before joining Stain.
And I'm drawing the line with who really shot Kennedy or where Hoffa's body is buried.
If every person that approaches me is willing to work on resolving these issues then I'm more then willing to put in the time and effort to resolve as many of them as possible.
I look forward to working some of these issues out. Please put dirty laundry in the corner for washing tyvm.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso
No kozak but i wouldent punch him in the face.
No, you wouldn't, but this is a GAME. All we can do is shoot each other. And, an appology would have nipped this whole thing in the bud. We let many SGE leave SE and said that we hope they can work this out. So, those member desided for the whole corp that an appology was out of the question, meaning the Nuetral standing stands and any SGE members still in SE space might get shot. So to me, it's the ones that are responsible for the Nuetral standing and those that let it stay that are responsible. And guess what, it's not Stain.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:12:00 -
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From what ive heard and yes SGE contacted me It was a reaction WAYYYYYY over the top for what actually happend.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr CEO
Edited by: Amarr CEO on 30/08/2005 12:58:34
Not an ALT
I'm not an alt either and I think you need to tone yourself down.
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:03:00 -
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we still have unresolved buisness khaerie, but you blocked me. so i cant contact you.
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Khaerie
Okay, how about this novel idea. Instead of sitting here responding to an alt and coming up with complaints that are only meant to hurt and slam, let's just contact me in game and see what we can do to start working this out.
I'm not promising miracles and not everything is going to be worked out to the pleasure of every person, that is flat impossible.
But going over stuff so darn old and holding grudges for things from the absolute past I'm not so willing to address without good reason. As everyone here has enjoyed pointing out, there are a lot of new faces in the regime. I am not willing to make them accountable for times that they were not around just as I'm not going to punish someone for being a pirate 6 months before joining Stain.
And I'm drawing the line with who really shot Kennedy or where Hoffa's body is buried.
If every person that approaches me is willing to work on resolving these issues then I'm more then willing to put in the time and effort to resolve as many of them as possible.
I look forward to working some of these issues out. Please put dirty laundry in the corner for washing tyvm.
No disrespect Khaerie, but history, both recent and ancient, has a huge part to play. I have no clue as to what is leading to the current issues, but there is a group of us from the past who are watching this post with great interest, and it's solely due to our history with some of the people being mentioned. We(I) don't wish Stain any ill wishes as that is where the majority of us started a few years back, but I have no doubt it's the historical component of Stain coming to bear on some of the decisions being implemented.
To disavow the historical component undermines any potential rationale for current decisions. Things are cyclical and it was only a matter of time before something snapped back. In retrospect, I wish we did it in the past. (No offense intended to you Duke N.)
CJ
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Camador
we still have unresolved buisness khaerie, but you blocked me. so i cant contact you.
Quit stalking me, quit threatening violence on me. The POS never left your corpmate hands. Last I heard it was with the mediator you agreed to which was also a member of your own corp.
We didn't purchase the POS because we found a cheaper one and yours was not the only one we did not purchase.
I hope this will get you to leave me alone since CCP seems to be ineffective. No, you were not blocked although I REALLY should have considering the awful things you sent me and I ignored.
I tried very hard not to drag this out so you could have a chance to enjoy the game in peace despite all the damage you did to my trust and to the trust of 2 other alliances.
You might as well reveal your total name now since you've already said enough for people to know who you are already.
Oh and the day you threatened me with violence? I was in the restroom and came back to seeing those awful words in LOCAL. Heaven forbid I should use the restroom and NOT be at the game the moment you randomly fly in to a system.
So now you know why I haven't responded to you. Now, go away!
I apologize to Eve community for having to write this. It really bothers me that I've been forced to do this in public.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:07:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Neil
Originally by: Kozak
What don't you guys understand? SGE still had mining and NPC rights in all of Stain since they left. What made the standings change to nuetral was something that happened between some members of SGE in regards to the a certain station that is controlled now by another SE corporation since SGE left the alliance. It was arrogance and disrespect by those members of SGE. It could all have gone away if they had swallowed some pride and appologized. That didn't happen.
Now drop it.
So a director of Species and a director of SGE have a difference of opinion (Dont know what its about). So your solution is to pod someone who isnt aware of the spat and is an easy kill? Even I didnt think Species were that gutless?
To compound matters you even bring the whole alliance into your fight and Im sure they're dont know whats its about.
Arrogance and dis-respect are atrributes associated with your corp dont even try and taint us with it.
Now dude, I still consider you a friend, but maybe when you post something like "gutless" or "arrogance" maybe you should look at your employment history and remember you where a founding member of Species.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
You know, if krenshaw is still leading SGE, then SE has something to worry about. 13 people in all of eve know Paragon Soul, Esoteria, and Stain as well as I do. Only one of them is with Species, 4 are with ATUK, 3 are with Evolution, two are in MASS, 2 are in SGE. Rest assured, Stain, you want to back of this one.
no, Krenshaw stepped down as CEO of SGE a long time ago. 
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:12:00 -
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You might as well reveal your total name now since you've already said enough for people to know who you are already.
what?
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:50:00 -
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Species shot at RI?
You guys are in for a world of hurt now. Don't Species know that Redemption have something more powerful than 50 battleships.. something more powerful than 25 dreadnaughts.. something more powerful than a huge alliance that punches holes in their friends backs???
Redemption have the stinky smelly old fart they call.. The Dray.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Curso on 01/09/2005 02:54:43
no no not Species another SE corp scer. But heed the warning they have the Old smelly geordy they call Dray. BEWARE
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:58:00 -
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Ah my mistake.
In that case, those corps are in for a world of biological smelly hurt.
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.09.01 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 01/09/2005 03:28:08
Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: zarc
Funny how SE now claim Catch again? Didnt you guys claim Curse after the CA war finished, Oh no you conceded it to the [5] when they formed on account of getting your ass kicked.
Now you attack ex SA members?? You should thank corps like Redemption and SGE that you even have any space at all!
Was'nt killing the CFS, Sta and DSMA enough for you, Now ex CFS have to ruin Stain too
Sad day
I don't understand you guys. You can't freakin read? It's not like we said: "hey, you wanna shoot SGE members?"
If your good friend starts making disrespectful comments you, you would bend over and take it?
Try and process all the information first, then start typing a reply.
sooooo
anyone from any corp says something somewhere( i assume that is what u mean) about anyone in species they are KOS?
sounds like a real organisation to me, u guys should be running the UN
Lets assume, say, someone from 5 or BOB or ASCN or FIX comes and says Cujo you are a xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx, will u make them kos then?
and btw awesome analogy in the earlier post how about this?
1. Cujo splits from SGE and backstabs Rampage
2. Species leave SE
3. Species come back south and take FAT station from SE so species can get rich
4. Fix takes FAT from Species and Species cry for help which they get from amongst others Storm Guard Elite
5. Species rejoin SE and take control of it, still getting fat on the former SE station in FAT
6. Species want SGE out of Catch so they can have the roids, the npcs, the foul language in local all to themselves
6. Now, with a whole alliance to back him up, Cujo takes it out by having Species make Storm Guard KOS
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.01 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: CopeLand
Edited by: CopeLand on 01/09/2005 03:28:08
Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: zarc
Funny how SE now claim Catch again? Didnt you guys claim Curse after the CA war finished, Oh no you conceded it to the [5] when they formed on account of getting your ass kicked.
Now you attack ex SA members?? You should thank corps like Redemption and SGE that you even have any space at all!
Was'nt killing the CFS, Sta and DSMA enough for you, Now ex CFS have to ruin Stain too
Sad day
I don't understand you guys. You can't freakin read? It's not like we said: "hey, you wanna shoot SGE members?"
If your good friend starts making disrespectful comments you, you would bend over and take it?
Try and process all the information first, then start typing a reply.
sooooo
anyone from any corp says something somewhere( i assume that is what u mean) about anyone in species they are KOS?
sounds like a real organisation to me, u guys should be running the UN
Lets assume, say, someone from 5 or BOB or ASCN or FIX comes and says Cujo you are a xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx, will u make them kos then?
and btw awesome analogy in the earlier post how about this?
1. Cujo splits from SGE and backstabs Rampage
2. Species leave SE
3. Species come back south and take FAT station from SE so species can get rich
4. Fix takes FAT from Species and Species cry for help which they get from amongst others Storm Guard Elite
5. Species rejoin SE and take control of it, still getting fat on the former SE station in FAT
6. Species want SGE out of Catch so they can have the roids, the npcs, the foul language in local all to themselves
6. Now, with a whole alliance to back him up, Cujo takes it out by having Species make Storm Guard KOS
Oh
My
God
you really dont get it do you?
You dont know all the facts
you have no idea of what really happened from what I can see
You flame baiting by still carrying this on
Frankily its pathitic (yes i know i can spell  )
Can everyone just STFU.
Its not just one person that has done this, but several. And rather than blaming Cujo, if thats what you want to do, and look throughout history. You might notice when someone has the abilty to use something bigger or better or more effective on something they do. I'm sure if the roles where reveresed it would be the same. But as always people that dont know all the facts come on here shooting there mouth off and surport the underdog.
Just STFU please.
Ok last post cuz I realy CBA to read any more retarded flame bait posts.
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DeathForMeh
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Posted - 2005.09.01 05:13:00 -
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Edited by: DeathForMeh on 01/09/2005 05:14:53
Originally by: shivan
Oh
My
God
you really dont get it do you?
You dont know all the facts
you have no idea of what really happened from what I can see
You flame baiting by still carrying this on
This is my basic feeling for this thread yet I still people must have ther OMG SE CAREBARES SGE 4ever. I have nothing for or aginst sge but something happend in the upper workings, now sge is not part of se by their owen choice and the boss man says there kos so be it. I would see it diffrent if sge got kicked for some random reason but as I understand it they left. I further dont understand the idea that se somehow owes ex-collation mebers something for regaing a station they lost in the first place. Espicaly when the corp who owens it helped regain it.
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Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 31/08/2005 03:48:14
You should apply to stain empire for an upgrade in your fighting technique.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.09.01 05:26:00 -
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lemme see if i understand this.
SGE leaves SE
SGE still hold a Station inside SE space.
SE comes to take it back
SGE doesnt like it
argument and much name calling follows.
Shooosting begins
Is that generally what happened?
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Neil
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Posted - 2005.09.01 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak
Let me make this a bit simpler...
Char 1 lived in an appartment, then moved out.
Char 2 still lives in the apartment.
Char 2 to Char 1 - "come over anytime, make youself at home"
Char 1 to Char 2 - "OK, thanks. BTW, you're an ******* and I want to use your TV myself, please don't change channel"
Char 2 to Char 1 - "you moved out, we should be able to change the channel on our own TV"
Char 1 to Char 2 - "F you, It's my TV........."
Char 2 to Char 1 - "I'm sorry, you are not welcome here anymore until you appologize"
Now, if that is still confusing, self destruct.
Thats it Kozak its between char 1 and 2, problem is char 2 went out and podded char 3, 4 , 5 ,6 and 7 who know f all about the agument.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.09.01 05:33:00 -
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from everything ive heard its more of a case of someone in sge hurt poor cujo feeligs and now sge are kos for it
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Neil
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Posted - 2005.09.01 05:38:00 -
[148]
Originally by: shivan
Originally by: Neil
Originally by: Kozak
What don't you guys understand? SGE still had mining and NPC rights in all of Stain since they left. What made the standings change to nuetral was something that happened between some members of SGE in regards to the a certain station that is controlled now by another SE corporation since SGE left the alliance. It was arrogance and disrespect by those members of SGE. It could all have gone away if they had swallowed some pride and appologized. That didn't happen.
Now drop it.
So a director of Species and a director of SGE have a difference of opinion (Dont know what its about). So your solution is to pod someone who isnt aware of the spat and is an easy kill? Even I didnt think Species were that gutless?
To compound matters you even bring the whole alliance into your fight and Im sure they're dont know whats its about.
Arrogance and dis-respect are atrributes associated with your corp dont even try and taint us with it.
Now dude, I still consider you a friend, but maybe when you post something like "gutless" or "arrogance" maybe you should look at your employment history and remember you where a founding member of Species.
Hey Shiv, I was reacting to Kozaks post labeling SGE arrogant. Its just my opinion but podding a shuttle in FAT is gutless especially given who the pilot was and no warning. Yes I am ashamed to say I was once in Species until Cujo booted me for voicing my opinion.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.09.01 05:44:00 -
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This should be between Species and SGE, nobody else. If anyone asks me to shoot SGE they can f-off and die. End of story.
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.09.01 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 01/09/2005 06:25:51
Originally by: DeathForMeh
Edited by: DeathForMeh on 01/09/2005 05:14:53
Originally by: shivan
Oh
My
God
you really dont get it do you?
You dont know all the facts
you have no idea of what really happened from what I can see
You flame baiting by still carrying this on
This is my basic feeling for this thread yet I still people must have ther OMG SE CAREBARES SGE 4ever. I have nothing for or aginst sge but something happend in the upper workings, now sge is not part of se by their owen choice and the boss man says there kos so be it. I would see it diffrent if sge got kicked for some random reason but as I understand it they left. I further dont understand the idea that se somehow owes ex-collation mebers something for regaing a station they lost in the first place. Espicaly when the corp who owens it helped regain it.
Noone is saying Species is saying the owe anything anyone (especially current Stain corps (few exeptions), that if I recall correct, were contacted and REFUSED to help). Do u have the slightest idea what the coalition is m8? No u dont. Its not an alliance, its a group of corps that have been though a lot together (for 1.5-2 years) and they are friends. No matter what the reason for one turning against each other, it is sad. I dont know what happened between SGE n Species nor do I care. It cant be something that cannot be resolved among friends.
As far as shooting RI, Species had no part in it, but this was the third incident we had we Stain and yet Amarr CEO said he talked to Cujo n he said he thought we left (according to Amarr). So Mass, the collective have left as well are they set as neutral as well?
Another note, bout ppl saying that x stain corps left when things got tough. Tough was when CA was sending 100ppl fleets in dss-lgk and there was 15 of us tops in gang with Aeryn. Tough was when u were flying through the corridor and u had Shinra all over ur ass n so on. Smite was not tough, they were a small inconviance (They were good at what they did, but just pale in comaprison with CA).
We were particularly ****ed off beeing shot at this time since it happened from ADGA along with whom (and species) had locked down 4gq to get rid of Smite. This means that they new very well who we are. I dont believe for a moment that this was a mistake, ADGA is not a new trial corp or something. Dray covoed Amarr, and all we wanted really was an apology, but that was too much. After the arrogant reply, Dray asked for compensation. So explain to me DeathForMeh how come RI was shot. As for not allowing non SE corps fly through Stain cause of pirate issues, need I remind u that the coalition is made by no more than 10 corps (too lazy to add the corps to + list in SE forums?). Lgk is atm n has been last 3-4 months under virii control and our few members living there were engaging them, they didnt come to stain to mine u know. They were part of the solution not part of the problem, but u seem persistant on making them part of the problem.
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