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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:20:00 -
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As much as I hate most of the top-5 this and that threads, I think this might be an interesting topic.
Who do you think are the people who can affect things in EvE in a larger scale? They might be alliance/big corp leaders, rich geezers who can take over markets or hire every mercenary out there, ruthless back-stabbers or thieves, or even forum slappers who people and devs listen to.
If you would want something done, who would you turn to?
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:22:00 -
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Looky here
though imo - too much fame is given to forum *****s over those who keep their game ingame.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:22:00 -
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/me consults my old petition replies and makes a top 5 of GM's...
Nah, it would depend on what I want, but if I want clout, I dont need to look far. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/08/2005 19:27:47 There are three groups of people.
1. The [23]. I.e. the people who influence opinion on the forums.
2. The leaders. Foyle, etc.
3. The infamous. Tank CEO, Viceroy, Istvaan Shogaatsu, etc.
They each affect different portions of the EVE community in different ways.
Some have became so famous that they are nearly household names in EVE. Such as Foyle, and Istvaan. -- Proud member of the [23].
Selling Capital Cargo Bays and Kernite Mining Crystal IIs, cheaper than anyone else. |

Francesca Dell'Agio
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:30:00 -
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Foyle?
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:00:00 -
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Istvaan, Lord zap and Tank CEO are the most famous. The most influential? Trigger... foyle.... really depends on what game you've been playing... you'll become aware of many more influential people if your out if low sec and 0.0 than if you stay in high sec space.
----------------------------------------------- Admiral of King Frieza's Super Saiyan fleet.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Liu Kaskakka on 29/08/2005 20:22:50
Originally by: Hakera Looky here
though imo - too much fame is given to forum *****s over those who keep their game ingame.
Yeah, but that thread concentrates on 'who have influenced you the most in the history of EVE'. I was more interested in 'who do you think are the most influential people right now, this very moment?' Who would you want on your side if you wanted the 75mm gatling nerfed? Who would you want on your side if you wanted to replace the leadership of PIE?
Edit: And ofc most players know the obvious nominations and reasons for them. I was hoping to see some less obvious choices with good reasoning behind it.
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:24:00 -
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Although I know he's quit, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Duke Droklar. I understand he had quite an effect.
CYVOK has as well - he's been a great CEO and an effective lobbyist on some changes, so far as I understand :)
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Tovarishch
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:24:00 -
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The most influential players/organizations in EVE are not the folks who go around flaunting it on the forums. Remaining inconspicuous in this game presents several advantages... namely, being successfully influential.
Big names = popularity contest. This isn't high school.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tovarishch
Big names = popularity contest. This isn't high school.
Life is high school, just more convoluted, less clear cut and without summer vacation  ________________________________________________________
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tovarishch The most influential players/organizations in EVE are not the folks who go around flaunting it on the forums.
Exactly what I'm interested in, tell us who your mystery person is! \o/
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari 1. The [23]. I.e. the people who influence opinion on the forums.
After several months this one still has me pondering, what on earth are the 23 exactly? Ive seen people claim membership, try and guess who the 23 are, guess what the 23 actually do, but nobody seems to know for sure 
Are they simply the 23 most infuencial people? Who made the list? Where is the list?
I hate not knowing things  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Onizuka Eikichi
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:46:00 -
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Are they like the Illuminati or the patriots of Metal Gear Solid?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:47:00 -
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The most influential person in the game is probably known by many names.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn The most influential person in the game is probably known by many names.
An alt, then.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:50:00 -
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I'm fairly influencial 
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn The most influential person in the game is probably known by many names.
A good point. Let's get it out in the open, is Fatballs really Kieron?
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Onizuka Eikichi Are they like the Illuminati or the patriots of Metal Gear Solid?
Yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_23_enigma
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:57:00 -
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The most influential people in eve today are clearly the leaders of the major alliances/PvP factions, and some of the more notable production folks like the leaders of NAGA, and a handful of random forum *****s and of course a few notable pirate types. I don't know the names, but it wouldn't take long to come up with a pretty comprehensive list just by seeing who's in charge of the various powerful PvP/Alliance/Production organizations in eve.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz The most influential people in eve today are clearly the leaders of the major alliances/PvP factions, and some of the more notable production folks like the leaders of NAGA, and a handful of random forum *****s and of course a few notable pirate types. I don't know the names, but it wouldn't take long to come up with a pretty comprehensive list just by seeing who's in charge of the various powerful PvP/Alliance/Production organizations in eve.
But who are the little hooded guys (I don't mean the amarr) whispering propaganda into the Rulers' ears?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Originally by: Scorpyn The most influential person in the game is probably known by many names.
An alt, then.
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of avatar(s).
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:14:00 -
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The most influential are always the ones that do not know it.
Attention mongers are the most infamous. Influentials merely inspire others through actions of their own. ___________________________
Aegis Militia Conclave official representative |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/08/2005 21:20:34
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Dark Shikari 1. The [23]. I.e. the people who influence opinion on the forums.
After several months this one still has me pondering, what on earth are the 23 exactly? Ive seen people claim membership, try and guess who the 23 are, guess what the 23 actually do, but nobody seems to know for sure 
Are they simply the 23 most infuencial people? Who made the list? Where is the list?
I hate not knowing things 
There are a number of threads around.
An alt (possibly Derisor's) posted a while back with a whine about how his horrible ideas always got shot down by the same 23 people (Rod Blaine, me, and others). The number was completely random and off the top of his head.
But the name stuck.
Nosferatu, me, Rod Blaine, and a few others are stated members of the [23], but you can include whoever you want as long as they post 30-50 times a day and are anti-whiner .
Its almost a giant bad joke.
Its not the 23 most influential though. That would be probably the 2nd and 3rd category--the leaders (Foyle, CYVOK, Xirtam, etc), and the infamous (Tank CEO, Lord Zap, Viceroy, Istvaan). -- Proud member of the [23].
Selling Capital Cargo Bays and Kernite Mining Crystal IIs, cheaper than anyone else. |

Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.29 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 29/08/2005 21:39:19 me me lol
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime! Image done by Denrace |

Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 29/08/2005 21:39:19 me me lol
They didn't ask who the biggest no0b from 2003 was...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:39:00 -
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Me
You people just don't know it yet... moehahahahahaaaaa
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:42:00 -
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oveur?  _________________________________________________________
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.29 23:36:00 -
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Bah, what a crock of ****, forum *****s > EVERYBODY and you all know it 
Originally by: James Lyrus Complaining about PvP and Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.08.29 23:43:00 -
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mmm those with influence are those that make an impact.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.08.29 23:49:00 -
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I'd say Duhoh has been a major influence on me on so many levels.
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