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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:41:00 -
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THIS should be usefull for a lot of people in this thread. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
535
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:45:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:I thought Jove Syndrome was something bad posters have Confirmed negative for Jove Syndrome. |

Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
148
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:08:00 -
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Actually, the new space will be an invite only area. Invitations are sent to all bittervets and when they go, they shall never return. Nobody will know quite where they went or how awesome it must be there, but it leaves everyone else in Eve to enjoy the game as it is, without having to listen to whining about "disappointing" expansions long before any details have been released. |

XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
75
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
I like all those conditions.
I wonder if the Gnosis on SiSi will be obtained from Jove space.......if CCP gives us access..... |

monkfish2345
D'reg The Methodical Alliance
47
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:24:00 -
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they are not going to give access to that area of space, quite simply because it is where they do their testing before they open the doors for players when they are releasing patches.
as much as the lore or w/e makes it sound like a wondrous place there is nothing much there i suspect.
As suggested previously it will just be that someone from marketing has taken the raw number of systems and said that number. |

Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
80
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:53:00 -
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Mire Stoude wrote:Actually, the new space will be an invite only area. Invitations are sent to all bittervets and when they go, they shall never return. Nobody will know quite where they went or how awesome it must be there, but it leaves everyone else in Eve to enjoy the game as it is, without having to listen to whining about "disappointing" expansions long before any details have been released.
But your whining about people whining so in its a never ending paradox |

Tess La'Coil
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
43
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:10:00 -
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Having to enter through a WH makes no sense. As soon as you can light a Cyno in there everyone and their mother can jump in from Various ranges. Someone once said I was a muppet. If that's so, I'm quite sure the Swedish Chef is my brother.-á |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
243
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:20:00 -
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Why does it make no sense? The Jovians have no stargates to the outside. Supposedly Sansha managed to get access to Jove space with a Wormhole. Being able to jump capital ships in with a cyno is a different story entirely (though I wouldn't be surprised if some part of Jove space were a no Cyno zone like highsec.) |

Andracin
Sickology
71
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:27:00 -
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Soon as you enter system you contract the Jovian Disease and begin to have bad booster side effects.... |

Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
250
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:34:00 -
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Blimey, some people love grasping at straws.
Previous expansion blurbs, box art, expansion adverts and even various reviews in the past have quoted the total number of systems.
This is nothing new, and isn't news. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1052
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:40:00 -
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I, for one, cannot wait to help add Jove space to the CFC, if only to see all the pubbie heads explode. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1052
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:54:00 -
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Also, have the devs mentioned if they're going to actually make Exploration in Null worth it?
Right now it's a complete waste of time to explore in Null. You'll end up finding 1-2 sites in an entire constellation, and of those 1-2, exactly 0.0001% of them are worth even looking at.
There's little point to Exploration as it stands if there's nothing out there, and of what we do rarely find, it's simply not worth the time to scan down. One's time is better spent grinding anoms. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
779
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:48:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:If they did open up Jove space: here's an idea to prevent the nearest coalition from just taking over and ruining the experience for the rest of us: Maintain the lack of stargates to the outside, so while you can jump between the systems in Jove space, access to the outside is limited. The access they should get should be through wormholes. To maintain some level of danger, I suggest only C5 and C6 connect (or at least those are the only systems that should have Jove statics) so you have to make multiple jumps to get there from highsec (HS to low level WH to a higher level WH to jove space). Note this also means null is still closer to Jove space since they get more links to high level Wormholes, but ALL null is closer rather than just the Sov blocks that are physically nearby.
If this leads to jove ships, the skills should have to be reverse engineered or otherwise acquired at high cost, and the ships themselves should be on the level of faction ships in cost and abilities (I know everyone always goes on about the superiority of Jove tech, but it's been a while since any of their ships were seen in open combat [and I do NOT count dev ships because dev ships cheat] and we have recovered quite a bit of tech since then that might reduce the power gap; we do routinely blow up Sleepers and take their tech. Aside from that, their superiority over the Amarr once upon a time was just as much due to military intelligence and the Amarr's own hubris as it was the Jove's actual military power)
Coalitions already know how to take it over.
Those sleepers that you kill routinely are not Sleepers themselves, just their drones. Think of a Titan using small drones to fight. (read Templar One) I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |

Accomendon en Purp
34 Signals
2
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:59:00 -
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Will Jove be defending there space is what i wanna know lol |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:59:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
Lmfao. So what you're asking for, is wormhole space, with tighter mass limits, and no control towers. Do you have ANY clue how moronic this is?
+ ignoring the fact that jove space is close enough for cynos and since I suspect Eve Amada doesn't want it to be highsec. Have fun with business as usual. :P There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
1286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:03:00 -
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Fantastic, except you messed up your maths.
There are 204 systems in Jove Space.
So 7930 is the number you're after. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
379
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:08:00 -
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... sets sail for the Jove system soon to be renamed "Thorrablot", where Black Death will flow like water and the pickled comestibles are...well, suspiciously "squishy"...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:11:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: So, roll a cheap alt, move it next to Jovian space, and PREPARE FOR EPIC TEARS!
Epic tears over an alt? Methinks, you overestimate people's emotional attachments to their alts (WiS boobies notwithstanding.) Tears will come from the four year old character who thought he'd slip into Jove space and then lost every_single_minute of previous training. :)
I do not even know words strong enough to express my disdain over this idiocy. Where do You get this ideas? Is there a pot of bad ideas somewhere and you can just grab one and post it on the web? Do You pay someone to write some up for You? There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Scien Inkunen
Boreel Enigma Rebel Alliance of New Eden
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:24:00 -
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There will be glorious days for campers of all kind. Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
45
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:37:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:stoicfaux wrote: Nah, Marketing made an executive decision to include the Dev Regions, because bigger numbers are better numbers.
That is FAR more likely than the OP's assessment. I like how you turn an admitted speculation into an 'assessment'. Berluth Luthian wrote: To me, all corners means everywhere, and to get 7,929 means that 'everywhere' has to include Jove space
Sounds like a personal assessment to me, based only on what you describe as so-called "legitimate speculation".
Chill the crap out man. I have not insulted your epeen so you are good. My initial point was that I didn't want this to sound like rumor mongering attributing something I 'heard from a dev' about something. Pretty sure rumor mongering is against the Terms and Conditions. I was going just off of what was posted and claiming no further authority. |

Tiger Armani
Mialto Corp The Last Chancers.
38
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:52:00 -
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The problem with IRL businesses is, that marketing department has no f*** clue what their product actually does/contains.
So, don't hold your breath before CCP Devs gives us some details. |

Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
299
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:07:00 -
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I am surprised that it is not something for Dust considering how hard CCP is pushing their mediocre FPS. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |

Xia Kairui
Delete Inc. Enigma Project
0
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:11:00 -
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When I look at the big screen in the announcement there's two big clusters - one looks like the current star map, the other is much lighter and clearly separate from the current one. Well, it may be that this is WH space, but normally the WH cluster should be way out of sight. Also the "Odyssey" name suggest at some long voyage or someone getting lost a bit.
So I am guessing/hoping that they'll introduce a whole new cluster. |

Eve Amada
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:01:00 -
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Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
Had some more thoughts & let me add to this list.
10 - All Areas are Cyno jammed 11 - Jove space prevents cloaks from working 12 - If you stay in one spot too long, Jove NPCs will find you 13 - Bubbles of any sort do not function, i.e hics, dics, drag bubbles 14 - Ship directional scanner does not work properly 15 - Probes are the only means of scanning
The only purpose of Jove space would be to go explore and find treasures. |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
47
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:03:00 -
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Xia Kairui wrote:When I look at the big screen in the announcement there's two big clusters - one looks like the current star map, the other is much lighter and clearly separate from the current one. Well, it may be that this is WH space, but normally the WH cluster should be way out of sight. Also the "Odyssey" name suggest at some long voyage or someone getting lost a bit.
So I am guessing/hoping that they'll introduce a whole new cluster.
Well one of the other things they are talking about is a complete redistribution of resources. They haven't been more specific than that, but part of the new functions of DUST will likely be some bonuses for cooperating with DUST Planet PI and DUST mercs will finally start to get control over districts in the next few months. |

Pantiy
Corporate Scum Test Friends Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:04:00 -
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let me clear this up for you.
Jove space is CCP ALLIANCE SPACE. its where they do live testing and its where isd,gm,dev... etc come out of. why would they open the space they use for testing and thier own fun? it is also where the GM/dev get the officer spawns that drop loot that they funnel to the goon alts.
i had a isd alt and giving from isd alt to other char is 100% legal, so remember CSM/devs/Gm/ISD is all insider trading. CCP should not be allowed to play in ANY player alliance other then thier own. ~|~(~-á (~~|~-á-á -á |-á-á (__)-á-á-á |
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Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
652
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:08:00 -
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I hope CCP do unlock Jove space and fill it with new content and new dangers.
However, i hope that Jove space is only accessible through wormhole space (to help increase the population) and people shouldn't be able to anchor POS's or build stations in Jove space. Is my bitter vet membership card in the mail? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8303
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:48:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Happy "leeroy for the sov day" erryone!
Dev Alliance already claimed it. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
277
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:55:00 -
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Pantiy wrote:let me clear this up for you.
Jove space is CCP ALLIANCE SPACE. its where they do live testing and its where isd,gm,dev... etc come out of. why would they open the space they use for testing and thier own fun? it is also where the GM/dev get the officer spawns that drop loot that they funnel to the goon alts.
i had a isd alt and giving from isd alt to other char is 100% legal, so remember CSM/devs/Gm/ISD is all insider trading. CCP should not be allowed to play in ANY player alliance other then thier own. Not really. There is this jove space, where the Jove Empire reigns and there is this separated region where CCP has claimed some stations and where Polaris is located (but not connected to other systems). So there is Jove space that should not be used as dev space. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:17:00 -
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Eve Amada wrote: 11 - Jove space prevents cloaks from working 12 - If you stay in one spot too long, Jove NPCs will find you 13 - Bubbles of any sort do not function, i.e hics, dics, drag bubbles 14 - Ship directional scanner does not work properly 15 - Probes are the only means of scanning
Sounds boring tbh.
11 - That sounds just as bad as not being able to cloak in enemy FW territory, I can't see the reason behind it.
12 - You do not even have to scan anything anymore, because hey, they'll come to You. Untold riches for everyone.
13 - so no more fun avoiding devilishly complicated traps laid out by other players... I used to have some really great moments trying to avoid or to escape from bubbletraps... :/
14 - Why? just Why?
15 - The onboard scanner is crap anyway. everything You can find with that You can find with probes, too. Just as fast and in a bigger radius. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
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