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Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:05:00 -
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I hope this counts as legitimate speculation from the PAX EAST announcement, but:
Quote:Today, Monday March 25th, CCP Games is delighted to announce the 19th free expansion to EVE Online, titled EVE Online: Odyssey. This expansion is planned for release on June 4, 2013. Odyssey will greatly expand the opportunities for players to explore all corners of the massive EVE Universe and its 7,929 solar systems.
To me, all corners means everywhere, and to get 7,929 means that 'everywhere' has to include Jove space.
Empire---------1907 Outlaw----------3294 Dev Region----230 Sleeper----------2498 Total-------------7929
Happy Birthday New Eden? |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
1154
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:07:00 -
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Happy "leeroy for the sov day" erryone! CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |

Tubrug1
West Indies Squadron
153
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:16:00 -
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Well spotted. www.tubrug1.blogspot.co.uk
A vote for James 315 is a vote for a better Highsec, a better lowsec and a better Eve. |

Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
86
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:17:00 -
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The dough within the blue donut will easily expand to fill in this space. So nbd  |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1163
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:20:00 -
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So the Jove finally thought "Enough!", hopped into a fleet of their motherships and wormholed to another cluster. Now Jove space is infested with Sansha, looting for leftovers and stage incursions into the rest of known space.
Now with Odyssey Capsuleers can go into Jove space to squabble with the Sansha over Jove garbage. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3824
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:38:00 -
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Or perhaps they have all "supposedly" died of Jove Syndrome and their space is now ripe for the pickings. Advanced technology laying around all over the place as their civilization went terminal and collapsed in a relatively short period of time.
Of course, it's only a test (or trap, depending on your point of view). To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
817
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:40:00 -
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I thought Jove Syndrome was something bad posters have Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |

Metal Icarus
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
518
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:42:00 -
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Psh, who cares about Sansha invading Jove space, what about Amarr V. Jove round 2?
EDIT: even better what if their slave virus turns out to be fatal-on-contact to jove? |

Eight Two
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:44:00 -
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Eve will die. |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
38
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:50:00 -
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I'm thinking a section of space, that possibly is only accessable via a few bottlenecks, with amazing loot you get through some unique missions or exploration sites, but then is only really valuable when sold back in highsec would make for some incredible adventures.
Imagine if it was a nullsec space that couldn't really be jump bridged to, or really could only get BLOPs after people put up extremely risky moon investments.
It would just be a huge and valuable NPC nullsec. |
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Jassmin Joy
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
79
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:53:00 -
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You would think this would make me happy, but i really hope its not true. |

stoicfaux
2555
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:56:00 -
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Berluth Luthian wrote:I hope this counts as legitimate speculation from the PAX EAST announcement, but: Quote:Today, Monday March 25th, CCP Games is delighted to announce the 19th free expansion to EVE Online, titled EVE Online: Odyssey. This expansion is planned for release on June 4, 2013. Odyssey will greatly expand the opportunities for players to explore all corners of the massive EVE Universe and its 7,929 solar systems. To me, all corners means everywhere, and to get 7,929 means that 'everywhere' has to include Jove space. Empire---------1907 Outlaw----------3294 Dev Region----230 Sleeper----------2498 Total-------------7929 Happy Birthday New Eden? Nah, Marketing made an executive decision to include the Dev Regions, because bigger numbers are better numbers.[1]
[1] Except for "4 out of 5" Dentist recommendations.
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Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
171
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:57:00 -
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Lol, knowing how ccp messes thing up, its probably one way trip, you go, your traped there...
Or Jove has left some sort of doomsday device they used to isolate their space, no jovians left to controll it... Now it overloading and wipes out half nullsec when it goes.... We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1088
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:59:00 -
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Nope  |

S'Way
Bitter Vets
491
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:03:00 -
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Berluth Luthian wrote:Imagine if it was a nullsec space that couldn't really be jump bridged to What if it was only accessible by noobships and whatever they could carry in cargo so everything had to be built there from the ground up just like the early days.
Realistically if it ever opens up (and I doubt it ever will), it'll be claimed by one of the blue naptrains and farmed for any new items there that can be turned into a cartel. (or rented out to a pet alliance if the space turns out to be as bad as providence etc).
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Arronicus
vintas industries Mistakes Were Made.
393
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:06:00 -
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Excellent catch.
Unfortunately, I'm going to be relegating this to the "CCP typos and oversights" category, where at some point in the future, some dev will make a comment saying "That is simply the total number of systems, used for the effect of awe, we never even implied that you would be able to visit all of them." |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
39
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:12:00 -
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S'Way wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:Imagine if it was a nullsec space that couldn't really be jump bridged to What if it was only accessible by noobships and whatever they could carry in cargo so everything had to be built there from the ground up just like the early days. Realistically if it ever opens up (and I doubt it ever will), it'll be claimed by one of the blue naptrains and farmed for any new items there that can be turned into a cartel. (or rented out to a pet alliance if the space turns out to be as bad as providence etc).
I really don't think it would be possible to enforce a cartel if for example all of Jove space had a set of new wormhole relationships that wondered around it, and you couldn't set up sov in it.
It would be really difficult to get capitals in, and really risky if you did. The place would potentially be defended kind of like C5s, but have the local and content of nullsec NPC space.
I just really want faction modules from a Jove LP store. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2886
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:43:00 -
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What if this was just wild speculation because of a badly worded sentence? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1236
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:48:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote: Nah, Marketing made an executive decision to include the Dev Regions, because bigger numbers are better numbers.
That is FAR more likely than the OP's assessment.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Zircon Dasher
166
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:07:00 -
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I consulted the foremost authority on pre-patch speculation.
Crystal Ball wrote: Topsy-Turvey World shakes free the mites. The Worms are infested with cats. All work for One. One is coming soon.
I think this should clear up all the questions. Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |
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Eve Amada
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
33
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:08:00 -
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I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
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Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
40
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:09:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:stoicfaux wrote: Nah, Marketing made an executive decision to include the Dev Regions, because bigger numbers are better numbers.
That is FAR more likely than the OP's assessment.
I like how you turn an admitted speculation into an 'assessment'. |

Arronicus
vintas industries Mistakes Were Made.
394
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:19:00 -
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Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
Lmfao. So what you're asking for, is wormhole space, with tighter mass limits, and no control towers. Do you have ANY clue how moronic this is? |

Zircon Dasher
166
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:24:00 -
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Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
Just make sure that there are no bounties and all loot is 100m3 or larger.
Making people live out of cans and orcas would be awesome. Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1236
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:30:00 -
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Berluth Luthian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:stoicfaux wrote: Nah, Marketing made an executive decision to include the Dev Regions, because bigger numbers are better numbers.
That is FAR more likely than the OP's assessment. I like how you turn an admitted speculation into an 'assessment'.
Berluth Luthian wrote: To me, all corners means everywhere, and to get 7,929 means that 'everywhere' has to include Jove space
Sounds like a personal assessment to me, based only on what you describe as so-called "legitimate speculation". The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
375
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:39:00 -
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... waits for Jove space to be turned into a "pvp arena" with a big wooden chest floating is space and all the "Aurum" inside....
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
233
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Posted - 2013.03.25 21:36:00 -
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If they did open up Jove space: here's an idea to prevent the nearest coalition from just taking over and ruining the experience for the rest of us: Maintain the lack of stargates to the outside, so while you can jump between the systems in Jove space, access to the outside is limited. The access they should get should be through wormholes. To maintain some level of danger, I suggest only C5 and C6 connect (or at least those are the only systems that should have Jove statics) so you have to make multiple jumps to get there from highsec (HS to low level WH to a higher level WH to jove space). Note this also means null is still closer to Jove space since they get more links to high level Wormholes, but ALL null is closer rather than just the Sov blocks that are physically nearby.
If this leads to jove ships, the skills should have to be reverse engineered or otherwise acquired at high cost, and the ships themselves should be on the level of faction ships in cost and abilities (I know everyone always goes on about the superiority of Jove tech, but it's been a while since any of their ships were seen in open combat [and I do NOT count dev ships because dev ships cheat] and we have recovered quite a bit of tech since then that might reduce the power gap; we do routinely blow up Sleepers and take their tech. Aside from that, their superiority over the Amarr once upon a time was just as much due to military intelligence and the Amarr's own hubris as it was the Jove's actual military power) |

Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Homowners
51
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Posted - 2013.03.25 21:39:00 -
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Jove space is going to be part of the next expansion, and it will blow your mind.
Jovians, who were behind traditional capsuleer technology, have gone a step further and developed a new technology that prevents you from utilizing your medical clone. Meaning, if you get podded in a Jovian system, you're pretty much biomass. Game over.
However, all the tech moons are about to dry up, and the only new ones are available in Jovian space.
So, roll a cheap alt, move it next to Jovian space, and PREPARE FOR EPIC TEARS! |

stoicfaux
2559
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:29:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: So, roll a cheap alt, move it next to Jovian space, and PREPARE FOR EPIC TEARS!
Epic tears over an alt? Methinks, you overestimate people's emotional attachments to their alts (WiS boobies notwithstanding.)
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Homowners
52
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:31:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: So, roll a cheap alt, move it next to Jovian space, and PREPARE FOR EPIC TEARS!
Epic tears over an alt? Methinks, you overestimate people's emotional attachments to their alts (WiS boobies notwithstanding.)
Tears will come from the four year old character who thought he'd slip into Jove space and then lost every_single_minute of previous training.
:) |
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:41:00 -
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THIS should be usefull for a lot of people in this thread. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
535
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:45:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:I thought Jove Syndrome was something bad posters have Confirmed negative for Jove Syndrome. |

Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
148
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:08:00 -
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Actually, the new space will be an invite only area. Invitations are sent to all bittervets and when they go, they shall never return. Nobody will know quite where they went or how awesome it must be there, but it leaves everyone else in Eve to enjoy the game as it is, without having to listen to whining about "disappointing" expansions long before any details have been released. |

XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
75
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
I like all those conditions.
I wonder if the Gnosis on SiSi will be obtained from Jove space.......if CCP gives us access..... |

monkfish2345
D'reg The Methodical Alliance
47
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:24:00 -
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they are not going to give access to that area of space, quite simply because it is where they do their testing before they open the doors for players when they are releasing patches.
as much as the lore or w/e makes it sound like a wondrous place there is nothing much there i suspect.
As suggested previously it will just be that someone from marketing has taken the raw number of systems and said that number. |

Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
80
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:53:00 -
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Mire Stoude wrote:Actually, the new space will be an invite only area. Invitations are sent to all bittervets and when they go, they shall never return. Nobody will know quite where they went or how awesome it must be there, but it leaves everyone else in Eve to enjoy the game as it is, without having to listen to whining about "disappointing" expansions long before any details have been released.
But your whining about people whining so in its a never ending paradox |

Tess La'Coil
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
43
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:10:00 -
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Having to enter through a WH makes no sense. As soon as you can light a Cyno in there everyone and their mother can jump in from Various ranges. Someone once said I was a muppet. If that's so, I'm quite sure the Swedish Chef is my brother.-á |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
243
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:20:00 -
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Why does it make no sense? The Jovians have no stargates to the outside. Supposedly Sansha managed to get access to Jove space with a Wormhole. Being able to jump capital ships in with a cyno is a different story entirely (though I wouldn't be surprised if some part of Jove space were a no Cyno zone like highsec.) |

Andracin
Sickology
71
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:27:00 -
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Soon as you enter system you contract the Jovian Disease and begin to have bad booster side effects.... |

Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
250
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:34:00 -
[40] - Quote
Blimey, some people love grasping at straws.
Previous expansion blurbs, box art, expansion adverts and even various reviews in the past have quoted the total number of systems.
This is nothing new, and isn't news. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1052
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:40:00 -
[41] - Quote
I, for one, cannot wait to help add Jove space to the CFC, if only to see all the pubbie heads explode. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1052
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:54:00 -
[42] - Quote
Also, have the devs mentioned if they're going to actually make Exploration in Null worth it?
Right now it's a complete waste of time to explore in Null. You'll end up finding 1-2 sites in an entire constellation, and of those 1-2, exactly 0.0001% of them are worth even looking at.
There's little point to Exploration as it stands if there's nothing out there, and of what we do rarely find, it's simply not worth the time to scan down. One's time is better spent grinding anoms. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
779
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:48:00 -
[43] - Quote
Xindi Kraid wrote:If they did open up Jove space: here's an idea to prevent the nearest coalition from just taking over and ruining the experience for the rest of us: Maintain the lack of stargates to the outside, so while you can jump between the systems in Jove space, access to the outside is limited. The access they should get should be through wormholes. To maintain some level of danger, I suggest only C5 and C6 connect (or at least those are the only systems that should have Jove statics) so you have to make multiple jumps to get there from highsec (HS to low level WH to a higher level WH to jove space). Note this also means null is still closer to Jove space since they get more links to high level Wormholes, but ALL null is closer rather than just the Sov blocks that are physically nearby.
If this leads to jove ships, the skills should have to be reverse engineered or otherwise acquired at high cost, and the ships themselves should be on the level of faction ships in cost and abilities (I know everyone always goes on about the superiority of Jove tech, but it's been a while since any of their ships were seen in open combat [and I do NOT count dev ships because dev ships cheat] and we have recovered quite a bit of tech since then that might reduce the power gap; we do routinely blow up Sleepers and take their tech. Aside from that, their superiority over the Amarr once upon a time was just as much due to military intelligence and the Amarr's own hubris as it was the Jove's actual military power)
Coalitions already know how to take it over.
Those sleepers that you kill routinely are not Sleepers themselves, just their drones. Think of a Titan using small drones to fight. (read Templar One) I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |

Accomendon en Purp
34 Signals
2
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:59:00 -
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Will Jove be defending there space is what i wanna know lol |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
Lmfao. So what you're asking for, is wormhole space, with tighter mass limits, and no control towers. Do you have ANY clue how moronic this is?
+ ignoring the fact that jove space is close enough for cynos and since I suspect Eve Amada doesn't want it to be highsec. Have fun with business as usual. :P There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
1286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
Fantastic, except you messed up your maths.
There are 204 systems in Jove Space.
So 7930 is the number you're after. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
379
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
... sets sail for the Jove system soon to be renamed "Thorrablot", where Black Death will flow like water and the pickled comestibles are...well, suspiciously "squishy"...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:11:00 -
[48] - Quote
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: So, roll a cheap alt, move it next to Jovian space, and PREPARE FOR EPIC TEARS!
Epic tears over an alt? Methinks, you overestimate people's emotional attachments to their alts (WiS boobies notwithstanding.) Tears will come from the four year old character who thought he'd slip into Jove space and then lost every_single_minute of previous training. :)
I do not even know words strong enough to express my disdain over this idiocy. Where do You get this ideas? Is there a pot of bad ideas somewhere and you can just grab one and post it on the web? Do You pay someone to write some up for You? There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Scien Inkunen
Boreel Enigma Rebel Alliance of New Eden
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:24:00 -
[49] - Quote
There will be glorious days for campers of all kind. Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
45
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:37:00 -
[50] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:Doc Fury wrote:stoicfaux wrote: Nah, Marketing made an executive decision to include the Dev Regions, because bigger numbers are better numbers.
That is FAR more likely than the OP's assessment. I like how you turn an admitted speculation into an 'assessment'. Berluth Luthian wrote: To me, all corners means everywhere, and to get 7,929 means that 'everywhere' has to include Jove space
Sounds like a personal assessment to me, based only on what you describe as so-called "legitimate speculation".
Chill the crap out man. I have not insulted your epeen so you are good. My initial point was that I didn't want this to sound like rumor mongering attributing something I 'heard from a dev' about something. Pretty sure rumor mongering is against the Terms and Conditions. I was going just off of what was posted and claiming no further authority. |
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Tiger Armani
Mialto Corp The Last Chancers.
38
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:52:00 -
[51] - Quote
The problem with IRL businesses is, that marketing department has no f*** clue what their product actually does/contains.
So, don't hold your breath before CCP Devs gives us some details. |

Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
299
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:07:00 -
[52] - Quote
I am surprised that it is not something for Dust considering how hard CCP is pushing their mediocre FPS. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |

Xia Kairui
Delete Inc. Enigma Project
0
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:11:00 -
[53] - Quote
When I look at the big screen in the announcement there's two big clusters - one looks like the current star map, the other is much lighter and clearly separate from the current one. Well, it may be that this is WH space, but normally the WH cluster should be way out of sight. Also the "Odyssey" name suggest at some long voyage or someone getting lost a bit.
So I am guessing/hoping that they'll introduce a whole new cluster. |

Eve Amada
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
Eve Amada wrote:I would hope if CCP ever did open up Jove space than it would be some conditions:
1 - The entrance to Jove space much harder to scan down than a wormhole. 2 - Very small mass allowed to go thru said entrance before it closes, a couple dozen ships max (no capitals) 3 - Entrance only stays active for a hour then closes. 4 - A one way trip, have to scan another entrance back to regular space. 5 - NO SOV Allowed 6 - NO Local 7 - NO POSes Allowed 8 - Jove rats (combo Sansha & Sleeper AI plus)
9 - Here's the kicker, Entrances to Jove space only found in low or null sec.
Jove space would have to make it extremely hard for someone to live there for any length of time.
Had some more thoughts & let me add to this list.
10 - All Areas are Cyno jammed 11 - Jove space prevents cloaks from working 12 - If you stay in one spot too long, Jove NPCs will find you 13 - Bubbles of any sort do not function, i.e hics, dics, drag bubbles 14 - Ship directional scanner does not work properly 15 - Probes are the only means of scanning
The only purpose of Jove space would be to go explore and find treasures. |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
47
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:03:00 -
[55] - Quote
Xia Kairui wrote:When I look at the big screen in the announcement there's two big clusters - one looks like the current star map, the other is much lighter and clearly separate from the current one. Well, it may be that this is WH space, but normally the WH cluster should be way out of sight. Also the "Odyssey" name suggest at some long voyage or someone getting lost a bit.
So I am guessing/hoping that they'll introduce a whole new cluster.
Well one of the other things they are talking about is a complete redistribution of resources. They haven't been more specific than that, but part of the new functions of DUST will likely be some bonuses for cooperating with DUST Planet PI and DUST mercs will finally start to get control over districts in the next few months. |

Pantiy
Corporate Scum Test Friends Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:04:00 -
[56] - Quote
let me clear this up for you.
Jove space is CCP ALLIANCE SPACE. its where they do live testing and its where isd,gm,dev... etc come out of. why would they open the space they use for testing and thier own fun? it is also where the GM/dev get the officer spawns that drop loot that they funnel to the goon alts.
i had a isd alt and giving from isd alt to other char is 100% legal, so remember CSM/devs/Gm/ISD is all insider trading. CCP should not be allowed to play in ANY player alliance other then thier own. ~|~(~-á (~~|~-á-á -á |-á-á (__)-á-á-á |
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Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
652
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:08:00 -
[57] - Quote
I hope CCP do unlock Jove space and fill it with new content and new dangers.
However, i hope that Jove space is only accessible through wormhole space (to help increase the population) and people shouldn't be able to anchor POS's or build stations in Jove space. Is my bitter vet membership card in the mail? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8303
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:48:00 -
[58] - Quote
ElQuirko wrote:Happy "leeroy for the sov day" erryone!
Dev Alliance already claimed it. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
277
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:55:00 -
[59] - Quote
Pantiy wrote:let me clear this up for you.
Jove space is CCP ALLIANCE SPACE. its where they do live testing and its where isd,gm,dev... etc come out of. why would they open the space they use for testing and thier own fun? it is also where the GM/dev get the officer spawns that drop loot that they funnel to the goon alts.
i had a isd alt and giving from isd alt to other char is 100% legal, so remember CSM/devs/Gm/ISD is all insider trading. CCP should not be allowed to play in ANY player alliance other then thier own. Not really. There is this jove space, where the Jove Empire reigns and there is this separated region where CCP has claimed some stations and where Polaris is located (but not connected to other systems). So there is Jove space that should not be used as dev space. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
72
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:17:00 -
[60] - Quote
Eve Amada wrote: 11 - Jove space prevents cloaks from working 12 - If you stay in one spot too long, Jove NPCs will find you 13 - Bubbles of any sort do not function, i.e hics, dics, drag bubbles 14 - Ship directional scanner does not work properly 15 - Probes are the only means of scanning
Sounds boring tbh.
11 - That sounds just as bad as not being able to cloak in enemy FW territory, I can't see the reason behind it.
12 - You do not even have to scan anything anymore, because hey, they'll come to You. Untold riches for everyone.
13 - so no more fun avoiding devilishly complicated traps laid out by other players... I used to have some really great moments trying to avoid or to escape from bubbletraps... :/
14 - Why? just Why?
15 - The onboard scanner is crap anyway. everything You can find with that You can find with probes, too. Just as fast and in a bigger radius. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
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Jane Schereau
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:04:00 -
[61] - Quote
Erm, the official website states "A New "Spacescape""
So, yes? |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
491

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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:31:00 -
[62] - Quote
I cleaned some posts from this topic that were stating incorrect things about ISD and CCP characters. Everyone please remember that both ISD and CCP are strictly forbidden from spawning items for their own benefit. CCP Gargant | Community Representative | EVE Illuminati |
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Djana Libra
The Black Ops black core alliance
120
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:50:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP Gargant wrote:I cleaned some posts from this topic that were stating incorrect things about ISD and CCP characters. Everyone please remember that both ISD and CCP are strictly forbidden from spawning items for their own benefit.
ok thats cool but can they spawn items for my benefit??  |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
277
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:35:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP Gargant wrote:I cleaned some posts from this topic that were stating incorrect things about ISD and CCP characters. Everyone please remember that both ISD and CCP are strictly forbidden from spawning items for their own benefit. And by doing that you also killed my post where I was merely pointing out the difference between Jove space and dev space in the different regions. Thanks ... I guess. |

Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
523
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:41:00 -
[65] - Quote
Jove space can get all of the benefits of the expansion and we still won't be able to go there.
Bringing Jove into the game as an active faction, or otherwise opening up their space, would require *much* more dramatic lead-in before it went live. I'm thinking at least a year where it is perfectly clear where it's leading. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm
Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
47
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:51:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Gargant wrote:I cleaned some posts from this topic that were stating incorrect things about ISD and CCP characters. Everyone please remember that both ISD and CCP are strictly forbidden from spawning items for their own benefit.
As much as I wanted to put words in the mouth of CCP Gargant and imply that NOT denying the possibility of new space opening to capsuleers meant that it is likely, I will refrain. It seems that most of his post do have to do with maintaining a certain form of decorum on the forums, and accusing devs of insider dealing would be something worthy of intervening.
...But we do have the attention of the illuminati... |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
47
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:55:00 -
[67] - Quote
I'm going to guess that Eve will have to kneel before the Jove when they all suddenly appear in the midst of a giant Minmatar and Amarr battle once again. They will declare Dust 514 mercenaries the 'offspring' of both Jove and capsuleer civilizations while demanding their equality and freedoms. Then the Jove will proceed to give mercenaries save haven by declaring a new homeland for them by fiat. This will let mercs settle in whichever new region the devs pick first. |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Eternal Evocations
49
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:08:00 -
[68] - Quote
Massively has picked up on the possibility! Who is wearing the tinfoil hat now bitches! |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
1
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:31:00 -
[69] - Quote
Hmm.... well, why wouldn't they make Jove Space an Empire space, like all of the other empires? Then the big alliances couldn't take it all over and farm it for items, and everyone would get a chance to see it and experience Jove technology. |

Drunken Bum
130
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
wasnt this EXACT SAME THREAD made last year? Spare some change?-á |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2656
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:10:00 -
[71] - Quote
Anti-climactic.
Why?
Because it will be the "ooh Jove space is opening up!!!!" and then in a week it's going to be nothing but nullbears, bots, and gank pipelines.
BFD.
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Ripblade Falconpunch
State War Academy Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:28:00 -
[72] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:I hope CCP do unlock Jove space and fill it with new content and new dangers.
However, i hope that Jove space is only accessible through wormhole space (to help increase the population) and people shouldn't be able to anchor POS's or build stations in Jove space.
No you don't.
With the majority of the nullsec blobs either already establishing or looking hard at establishing a presence in WH space, do you *really* want yet another reason for the big blue donut to come and break all your toys? |

Shaera Taam
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
61
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
S'Way wrote: What if it was only accessible by noobships and whatever they could carry in cargo so everything had to be built there from the ground up just like the early days.
I don't really care what anyone says... THAT would be great!
[slappedhardbyrealism]
Yeah, I know, it'll never happen...
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess! |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
136
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:23:00 -
[74] - Quote
Berluth Luthian wrote:Massively has picked up on the possibility! Who is wearing the tinfoil hat now bitches!
Yet another example of why I don't read anything from that site. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2656
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Posted - 2013.04.26 06:27:00 -
[75] - Quote
How long before people start begging to be a Jove?
Just roll a girlie avatar with bad skin and no hair. |

Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
66
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:31:00 -
[76] - Quote
You were all right and I was wrong. Damn pipe dreams... Exploration will still be fun though. |

Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.29 20:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
Would love if Jove tech became available. Many say it would destroy eve but I have to disagree. It's how you implement it that makes all the difference.
For instance. You could make it random events where groups of players are needed to fight and kill 1 or a couple of Jove ships. Make it real hard so it's almost like you fight a real player blob. After your group succeeds or fails. You can loot certain parts like it is with tech 3. Add reverse engineering and research in pos to use the parts. Repeat this a hundred times and you can create a jove ship of your own. (the bigger, the more insane the quantity of parts needed). This way jove ships will be rare as hell and an achievement to create. They will never be able to be build in sufficient numbers to influence the outcome of the game or major wars. They wont render all the other ships obsolete either.
Yes you might encounter a big alliance with 20 titans and one (even rarer) jove battleship but that just adds to the excitement of fights and the game overall. To destroy one would be a bigger achievement on the kill board then a titan kill.
Implement it like this and it would make a great addition to our ever evolving and exciting universe!
0.02$ cheers o/ Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
239
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Posted - 2013.04.29 20:19:00 -
[78] - Quote
I dont think this will happen. I reckon the new stargates will allow capsuleers to expand and forge their own empires as the Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, and Caldari once did. Simply expanding into Jove space would defeat this purpose. |

Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
68
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Posted - 2013.04.29 20:21:00 -
[79] - Quote
I thought the design talk was interesting and I thought they were going to announce that Jove space was going to be part of the place where you could do their cowboy roams in land where you couldn't settle anything. That's nearly exactly what I was thinking Jove space would be...jumping around until you get the loot you want and then trying to find a safe way out w/o getting gangked. |

Donedy
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
84
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:07:00 -
[80] - Quote
Any news about that? |
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Matthew Breau
Defiance LLC The East India Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:46:00 -
[81] - Quote
going into Jove space? This means WAR! |

Matthew Breau
Defiance LLC The East India Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:47:00 -
[82] - Quote
Also, you would NEED a jove ship in order to get in. Last i heard, the Joves don't like you flying around there space. |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1542
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:56:00 -
[83] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How long before people start begging to be a Jove?
Some have been since the beginning, which would be a terrible idea. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Franky Sugaz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.02 08:58:00 -
[84] - Quote
two coalition are battling for the sov, they are hotdropping each other, when suddenly the system got jammed and both will be hotdropped by jovian super fleet with jovian moms capable of oneshotting a full, well fitted, titan. Jovian prescripted smacktalking in local, titan pilots tears, gg. CCp introduce pve specifically designed for caps and supers. |

killorbekilled TBE
Initiated
227
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:03:00 -
[85] - Quote
Now that CCP has gotten my hopes up if they dont open jove space i will make a whine thread detailing and outlining my annoyance :) |

Jake Pappottess
Altyr Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:11:00 -
[86] - Quote
A PvE system that is dynamic in difficulty so that it would take the collaboration of more than even the largest coalitions stock of Titans, Supercarriers, and Dreads
:D |

Danbar Roth
No Tax Holdings
61
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:17:00 -
[87] - Quote
If CCP were to open up Jove space we would know about it. Simply because it would be the whole expansion with a few other random things thrown in and that's about it. People have been wanting to see/use the space for a long time so their not gonna miss the chance of milking every little bit of happiness from the people before we find out its a crap. |
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