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Amyclas Amatin
The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY
97
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Posted - 2013.04.05 01:03:00 -
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Could I invite some themeparking carebears to do my survey on high-sec aggression?
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dLcM27c_qDyOIxFgE4Zan_T8j_eZDDeCUAEL4lwXGC8/viewform The post that got me banned from Eve-Uni: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unread |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
250
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Posted - 2013.04.05 01:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:lol post at me some more, try telling me why player-created content is a failure despite it working in 'eve online', a top 10 subscription-based MMO, for 10 years
I suppose the real question we should ask is how many subscriptions will be canceled because of burn Jita.
I then suppose that could be countered by Goonswarm members quitting out of boredom, but one could assume that they'd find other things to do anyways.
I suppose its acceptable by CCP because it usually usually makes headlines somewhere.
But what if it doesn't this year? At what point will griefing cost the game more than they get out of it?
Don't look at me. I suppose I'll be contracting out over valued collateral courrier missions that day.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1293
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:11:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:If it means a break from uninterrupted local spam bots? Hell yes. 
I think if Goons ever held a more focused "Burn Spam Bots" event in Jita their PR guys would drown in gift champagne.
Live Events are neither. |

Umega
Solis Mensa
146
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:18:00 -
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Terrorize the populace into a frenzy to demand the government for change.
To think there is no agenda, other than griefing is a bit narrow-sighted. While the average grunt is going to bring their jars and mops, soak in all the tears, use the ethernet substance to fuel their drive to continue onward.. the roots of the tree tends to dig a bit deeper than that alone.
Would it be griefing if Sansha, Angels, EOM, w/e.. start hitting stargates and stations? No. It would be classified as PvE content. The reason for them doing so is ultimately irrelevent. Goons and whomever else, an 'outside' external entity to the highsec Empires doing the same is some how.. different? No.. actually it isn't. It is content.. player introduced content. Is this any different than EVE Uni (before going Green) wanting to educate the masses? No.. it is player introduced content. Why should their view be the only view? Why shouldn't some people choose anarchy and attempt to destroy their establishment?
Why shouldn't null powers be aloud to atleast attempt to 'destroy', reshape, alter and adjust the highsec establishment? Highsec effects null more so than null effects high.. Fact. How is that fair?
Good Or Bad is a matter of opinion. You holy asshat wannabes that wish to proclaim your view is greater than.. because you do not condone these actions are hypocritical monsters. The only throne you're worth sitting in is that of Lord Tard.. self-rightous heir to the kingdom that believes all their problems is someone elses problem.. eating the forbidden fruit, never to ****. Can't stain perfection. Am I right?
But yet.. why should your materials, your isk value be greater than? A highsec Isk is more valuable when transfered to null regions.. Fact.
If none of this makes sense to you.. continue ranting about something you, yourself.. are completely incapable of fixing and handling. Why.. I suppose it is easier on the mind to cope with yelling at empty air, rather than taking time to warn others ingame about this Warning. Derp.. no guilt when you attempt stainless perfection towards a useless forum rant.. moral crisis averted. Atleast when you wake up the Monday after.. your precious goods may have increased in value. God forbid if a change occured that caused the highsec markets to plummet..
Carebear.. what a faulty term. Most carebears.. don't really care. It's only about them.. and what their singular existence can accomplish on a vast scale. How many truly do have corps mates to care about.. to entertain and watch grow.. huh.
I prefer the term.. Cuddlebears. If you hug yourself enough.. all your dreams might come true... and if not, cuddle together and blame your surroundings rather than yourselves. -áUme-Pro Studios |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:29:00 -
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Andski wrote:lol post at me some more, try telling me why player-created content is a failure despite it working in 'eve online', a top 10 subscription-based MMO, for 10 years
Sure I'll keep posting, as this is fun even.
I'll tell you quite simply... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfNs1pqG0
And now you understand why you can't let the inmates run the asylum.  "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Lord Zim
2337
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:32:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Andski wrote:lol post at me some more, try telling me why player-created content is a failure despite it working in 'eve online', a top 10 subscription-based MMO, for 10 years Sure I'll keep posting, as this is fun even. I'll tell you quite simply... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfNs1pqG0And now you understand why you can't let the inmates run the asylum.  Translation: "I got nothin'" Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |

Tesal
259
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:44:00 -
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Umega wrote:Terrorize the populace into a frenzy to demand the government for change.
To think there is no agenda, other than griefing is a bit narrow-sighted. While the average grunt is going to bring their jars and mops, soak in all the tears, use the ethernet substance to fuel their drive to continue onward.. the roots of the tree tends to dig a bit deeper than that alone.
Would it be griefing if Sansha, Angels, EOM, w/e.. start hitting stargates and stations? No. It would be classified as PvE content. The reason for them doing so is ultimately irrelevent. Goons and whomever else, an 'outside' external entity to the highsec Empires doing the same is some how.. different? No.. actually it isn't. It is content.. player introduced content. Is this any different than EVE Uni (before going Green) wanting to educate the masses? No.. it is player introduced content. Why should their view be the only view? Why shouldn't some people choose anarchy and attempt to destroy their establishment?
Why shouldn't null powers be aloud to atleast attempt to 'destroy', reshape, alter and adjust the highsec establishment? Highsec effects null more so than null effects high.. Fact. How is that fair?
Good Or Bad is a matter of opinion. You holy asshat wannabes that wish to proclaim your view is greater than.. because you do not condone these actions are hypocritical monsters. The only throne you're worth sitting in is that of Lord Tard.. self-rightous heir to the kingdom that believes all their problems is someone elses problem.. eating the forbidden fruit, never to ****. Can't stain perfection. Am I right?
But yet.. why should your materials, your isk value be greater than? A highsec Isk is more valuable when transfered to null regions.. Fact.
If none of this makes sense to you.. continue ranting about something you, yourself.. are completely incapable of fixing and handling. Why.. I suppose it is easier on the mind to cope with yelling at empty air, rather than taking time to warn others ingame about this Warning. Derp.. no guilt when you attempt stainless perfection towards a useless forum rant.. moral crisis averted. Atleast when you wake up the Monday after.. your precious goods may have increased in value. God forbid if a change occured that caused the highsec markets to plummet..
Carebear.. what a faulty term. Most carebears.. don't really care. It's only about them.. and what their singular existence can accomplish on a vast scale. How many truly do have corps mates to care about.. to entertain and watch grow.. huh.
I prefer the term.. Cuddlebears. If you hug yourself enough.. all your dreams might come true... and if not, cuddle together and blame your surroundings rather than yourselves.
I smoke crack on the weekends. It helps my posting a lot.
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Tesal
259
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:59:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Andski wrote:lol post at me some more, try telling me why player-created content is a failure despite it working in 'eve online', a top 10 subscription-based MMO, for 10 years Sure I'll keep posting, as this is fun even. I'll tell you quite simply... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfNs1pqG0And now you understand why you can't let the inmates run the asylum. 
You are so smart and insightful and your posts are great. I wish you would post more because you are so great. "inmates run the asylum"= awesome burn. Where do you get this stuff? Its pure gold. Keep up the good work because you rock. You picked a great and totally relevant youtube video. It totally puts those fools in their place. One day I might be able to post like you if I work hard and persevere. Its like you are posting from the top of Mount Olympus, way above everyone else. Keep up the good work because we need more posters like you. You are awesome, awesome, awesome.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:15:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Lord Zim wrote:'tis just a flesh wound! With rock salt.  The one place the Goonies can't own or pwn, as it's residents simply, and truly, don't care. That's not what they said while burn jita was ongoing.
First time, it's a shock.
Second time, they seen the show already. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7357
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:18:00 -
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guys guys i'm Very Angry about burn jita but let me tell you how much i don't care
I don't care
but i'm very angry about it, i just don't care ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Lord Zim
2337
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:20:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Lord Zim wrote:'tis just a flesh wound! With rock salt.  The one place the Goonies can't own or pwn, as it's residents simply, and truly, don't care. That's not what they said while burn jita was ongoing. First time, it's a shock. Second time, they seen the show already. Actually, what they said prior to burn jita was "oh we'll kill them all, they won't be able to do squat". They shut up more or less the instant burn jita started.
I'm pretty certain the same'd happen in a second burn jita event, only they'd be whimpering a lot more. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3575
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:guys guys i'm Very Angry about burn jita but let me tell you how much i don't care
I don't care
but i'm very angry about it, i just don't care Sell me some tornados please, I don't really care but I just happen to want some to ... spin. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:guys guys i'm Very Angry about burn jita but let me tell you how much i don't care
I don't care
but i'm very angry about it, i just don't care
They really don't care.
Think about it: those who live in Jita live in the stations. You can make Jita a burning pile of rumble, but they'll still be trading. 89 days worth of stocks ensures you'll be tired of the burn before stocks run out to care.
See your Hulk campaign didn't hurt until stockpiles were dwindling or gone. Be it commodities or ships.
A 3 day burn isn't even a blip in comparison.
A fun fantasy, but it's business as usual. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Lord Zim
2337
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:28:00 -
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Yes, yes, we know you don't understand how things work, you don't have to continually prove it. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |

Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:32:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: A 3 day burn isn't even a blip in comparison.
A fun fantasy, but it's business as usual.
This.
It happened so fast I missed it last year. Burn Jita is meaningless unless it is done 24/7 for a month or two, then all the traders in Jita will whine and the secondary market hubs will see more sales there.
Actually do this, would be cool to see Jita dry up as a trade hub, would only take a few months of effort and Goons could do something real to effect the game. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:33:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Yes, yes, we know you don't understand how things work, you don't have to continually prove it.
They speak and yell the loudest when it hits home.
Your scare is turning into a tears.
Want a hankie? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Capt Starfox
New Order Logistics CODE.
417
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:45:00 -
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Burn it to the space-ground Psychotic Monk for CSM 8 |

Lord Zim
2337
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:54:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:They speak and yell the loudest when it hits home. That explains you posting so much about how much you don't care/won't notice, doesn't it? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:58:00 -
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Ashina Sito wrote:Actually do this, would be cool to see Jita dry up as a trade hub, would only take a few months of effort and Goons could do something real to effect the game.
They won't. It'll actually affect them.
This is an event to them as they're bored out of their wits. Reduced to gatecamps in high-sec for fun even. And people are focusing on other things more important than them. So they ante it up. Problem is the antes have to get bigger and better each time to hold the same interest.
When they're reduced to recycling old news its...yawnnnnnn... "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:03:00 -
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guys look at me not caring
*writes up a post to make the lack of caring clear* ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:08:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:They speak and yell the loudest when it hits home. That explains you posting so much about how much you don't care/won't notice, doesn't it?
Because I don't care. I rarely even go into Jita. If it blows up it won't affect me. If all you Goonies fell into a wormhole to hell and never came back it wouldn't effect me, either.
Nothing you have I can't get. Nothing you own I care to even want.
NOTHING of your existence matters.
So, yeah, *I* really don't care. Most players won't anyway. You're not paying for their subscriptions to care.
The only reason I'm even posting to you is because you're there, and so self-deluded.
BTW, still want that hankie? Contact Kimberly-Clark. I'm not your nurse. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:11:00 -
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~40 posts in the thread to drive that point home, that you really do not care about burn jita
well only enough to make 40 posts about it but yeah ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:26:00 -
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Andski wrote:~40 posts in the thread to drive that point home, that you really do not care about burn jita
well only enough to make 40 posts about it but yeah
That I got how many of you to keep me company in this boredom of leveling skills, is the amazing thing.
That's better than any fire in Jita.
 "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Lord Zim
2338
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:45:00 -
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"I'm making you post." ~controlling your game~ ~puppetmasta~ ~~~~ Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:46:00 -
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its been empirically proven that we control the game anyway v0v ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Umega
Solis Mensa
147
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:57:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Andski wrote:~40 posts in the thread to drive that point home, that you really do not care about burn jita
well only enough to make 40 posts about it but yeah That I got how many of you to keep me company in this boredom of leveling skills, is the amazing thing. That's better than any fire in Jita. 
For someone that consistantly exhibits an anti-chestbeating approach.. you sure do a lot of it yourself on this seven day stint alt of yours.
Trying your very best to appear superior.. while you may not care about the subject matter, you do care that you are right. And you'll keep going to prove that you are. I get it.. your **** don't stink.
That's fine.. but atleast admit it. I could atleast respect a Goon for being loyal to their Brand.. and I see no problem with their forum frequents sticking up for a cause their leaders have set forth. They are being honest in a way.. more than I could say about someone who hides behind a seven day alt, sitting in an NPC corp shield, whom has constantly run their mouth. Cowardly. So eager to throw opinions around, talk a big game.. but strangely believes they should be immune from any sort of recourse, or Retribution. The Irony.
Do my opinions bother you? You should Now proceed to tell me how wrong my opinions are, and that yours are right.. in a manner that you believe showcases a greater than intelligence, thus making you more right. Or.. attempt to make a funny/sarcastic comment.. proving you got nothing sturdy to set your words upon, and need a crutch of humor to mask failure.
Or tell me you are some Goon's alt.. designed to keep threads afloat when certain ideals are being chimed away. Atleast that.. and this time.. you'd get me to giggle. -áUme-Pro Studios |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:18:00 -
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Umega wrote:while you may not care about the subject matter, you do care that you are right.
I don't, it's stuff that won't affect me as I don't work in, through or around Jita. And the powerblocks play pattycake among themselves.
I will defend my position that I'm right, through gunfire; bombs and worse.
Done if before, will do it again.
Now you know why I'm "confident"...it's not an act.
And I like to find some enemies to destroy later. The biggest ape wins.  "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises THE ROYAL NAVY
3
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:52:00 -
[148] - Quote
As a High/Low sec industrial corporation that makes a point of seeding our local market in Genesis and avoiding Jita like the plague we support this.
Personally I'm loading up a fast locking sniper Zealot, sitting off the 4-4 undock and whoring on the kill mail of anything that goes red. 
"There is no such thing as an effective segment of Totality" - Bruce Lee: The only man with a Chuck Norris killmail. |

kosswomen Mckay
Fight Club Outfit
19
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:01:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Source: http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-forgot-about-dreQuote:(...nullsec/goons stuff...)
BURN JITA 2.0: APRIL 19-21ST 2013
There are few things that we of nullsec can agree upon, but one of them is, inevitably, '**** hisec'. We will now wash away the frustrations of March's cold war by covering ourselves in the blood and suffering of the people of hisec, the weekend before Fanfest begins - just in time to remind these people who the **** we are. As before, we will invite every null entity which wants to participate in our holy cause.
Last year there was a tremendous amount of publicity about Burn Jita, leading to a whole host of hisec movements and wardecs to counter our efforts. This year we will not be making public statements about the Burn or actively trying to advertise it. Yes, we are giving approximately 19 days of notice with this post, as well as coordinating across the CFC and the HBC if they want to participate, but the blind sleeping masses of hisec will not realize something is coming until it is too late. I am eager to see what happens to hisec if we show up without three months of wardrum-beating and hype, unannounced, and commence putting everything to the sword.
The first Burn taught us a lot. We know Jita has a population cap; we know there are only so many routes into the system which are traffic controlled. We know as well that goons in Jita enjoyed not only taking out freighters, but spreading the carnage by using thrashers to take out industrials of random passers-by. A Burn is fundamentally a terror operation; it is not so much about the isk value of each freighter destroyed as it is implanting fear into the hearts and minds of even the most humble industrialist in his Badger II. This year we will be not only ganking freighters and industrials within Jita, but Miniluv will patrol the lanes outside of Jita to destroy anyone trapped on the gates from traffic control. The number of humans involved means that it will still be a complete mess, but we expect our terror-sowing to be much more efficient than last year.
(...more nullsec/goons stuff...) There's 3 pages of article so it may not be an April Fool's joke. Or maybe it is. Or maybe the joke is to pretend that it is a joke. 
Don't give up the day job. Mate. |

pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1080
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:34:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Source: http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-forgot-about-dreQuote:(...nullsec/goons stuff...)
BURN JITA 2.0: APRIL 19-21ST 2013
There are few things that we of nullsec can agree upon, but one of them is, inevitably, '**** hisec'. We will now wash away the frustrations of March's cold war by covering ourselves in the blood and suffering of the people of hisec, the weekend before Fanfest begins - just in time to remind these people who the **** we are. As before, we will invite every null entity which wants to participate in our holy cause.
Last year there was a tremendous amount of publicity about Burn Jita, leading to a whole host of hisec movements and wardecs to counter our efforts. This year we will not be making public statements about the Burn or actively trying to advertise it. Yes, we are giving approximately 19 days of notice with this post, as well as coordinating across the CFC and the HBC if they want to participate, but the blind sleeping masses of hisec will not realize something is coming until it is too late. I am eager to see what happens to hisec if we show up without three months of wardrum-beating and hype, unannounced, and commence putting everything to the sword.
The first Burn taught us a lot. We know Jita has a population cap; we know there are only so many routes into the system which are traffic controlled. We know as well that goons in Jita enjoyed not only taking out freighters, but spreading the carnage by using thrashers to take out industrials of random passers-by. A Burn is fundamentally a terror operation; it is not so much about the isk value of each freighter destroyed as it is implanting fear into the hearts and minds of even the most humble industrialist in his Badger II. This year we will be not only ganking freighters and industrials within Jita, but Miniluv will patrol the lanes outside of Jita to destroy anyone trapped on the gates from traffic control. The number of humans involved means that it will still be a complete mess, but we expect our terror-sowing to be much more efficient than last year.
(...more nullsec/goons stuff...) There's 3 pages of article so it may not be an April Fool's joke. Or maybe it is. Or maybe the joke is to pretend that it is a joke. 
give them a break , they need a vacation and something easy to shoot at I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
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