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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3960
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Posted - 2013.04.02 11:36:00 -
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Wow.....so much for discussion of Burn Jita II.
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.04.02 11:52:00 -
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Andski wrote:okay noted expert march rabbit can you show us what is clearly your plethora evidence that 99% of what most people do in nullsec is PvE
1. Ratting (let us know when the rats lose their AI status!).
2. Standings grinding (especially at NPC stations).
3. Any trading involved (read #1).
4. Mining and all associated industry (your ships that's built in those arrays isn't a PvP activity).
There's more but you get the drift. There's a lot of PvE activity that's done in the game even in -0.3 space, and you're going to be doing it.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Lord Zim
2308
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Posted - 2013.04.02 11:55:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:1. Ratting (let us know when the rats lose their AI status!).
2. Standings grinding (especially at NPC stations).
3. Any trading involved (read #1).
4. Mining and all associated industry (your ships that's built in those arrays isn't a PvP activity).
There's more but you get the drift. There's a lot of PvE activity that's done in the game even in -0.3 space, and you're going to be doing it.
Heh so cute, he actually thinks a majority (or 99%) of us rat/grind standings/mine/manufacture in nullsec.
I've no idea why trading is there, or why it's linked to ratting/rats' AI, but vOv
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1168
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Posted - 2013.04.02 11:55:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:The only way to be sure is to fill a freighter with capital ship BPOs and go to Jita on the 19th. 
Or any other day, for that matter...
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1168
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Posted - 2013.04.02 11:59:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Lord Zim wrote:March rabbit wrote:you haven't provided any facts. Only stupid assumptions (like "idiot"). And unproven opinion "99% of what most people do in nullsec is PVE = wrong".
So what do i lose ignoring you on the first place? Nothing. As i said already. Considering nullsec is basically empty outside of fleetfights, "99% of what people do in nullsec is PVE" is absolutely an incorrect statement. "99% of what people do in nullsec is PVE" "99% of what most people do in nullsec is PVE" 1. Are not equal sentences. 2. "incorrect stamement" - I would like to see any other reasons outside of "basically empty outside of fleetfights" which needs another proof. Let's say goonswarm alliance has 7000 members (exact number doesn't matter here). Fleetfights rarely draws more than 500-1000 people for one side and take from few to several hours. How it is possible to fleetfights to be the main job of said alliance? I guess the same can be said about any big alliance. Lord Zim wrote:And yes, I will call anyone who unironically believes that nullsec is all about PVE, an idiot. again, "99% of what most people do in nullsec is PVE" != "nullsec is all about PVE". So basically you changed initial statement, broke it's logic and then accuse author of being idiot. So up to this moment you prove my point. Should we continue? 95% of all statistics are invented on the spot.
The other 5% came out of a rectal orifice.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Chopper Rollins
Sky Prey
185
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Posted - 2013.04.02 12:07:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Source: http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-forgot-about-dre
Quote:(...nullsec/goons stuff...)
BURN JITA 2.0: APRIL 19-21ST 2013
There are few things that we of nullsec can agree upon, but one of them is, inevitably, '**** hisec'. We will now wash away the frustrations of March's cold war by covering ourselves in the blood and suffering of the people of hisec, the weekend before Fanfest begins -just in time to remind these people who the **** we are....
My, what a crashing bore.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3961
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Posted - 2013.04.02 12:09:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Source: http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-forgot-about-dreQuote:(...nullsec/goons stuff...)
BURN JITA 2.0: APRIL 19-21ST 2013
There are few things that we of nullsec can agree upon, but one of them is, inevitably, '**** hisec'. We will now wash away the frustrations of March's cold war by covering ourselves in the blood and suffering of the people of hisec, the weekend before Fanfest begins -just in time to remind these people who the **** we are.... My, what a crashing bore.
It does indeed get old, does it not ?
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
492
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Posted - 2013.04.02 12:14:00 -
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Bring it on, I say.
The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
100
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Posted - 2013.04.02 12:55:00 -
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The 19th-21st huh? So that means at any time between right now and Dec 31st. Check and check!
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
...end transmission... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3963
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Posted - 2013.04.02 12:58:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Bring it on, I say.
Same here.
Especially since neither I nor my 4 other alts have been to Jita in at least 18 months.
No need. Why sell my stuff at dirt cheap Walmart when I can sell it at Target ?
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
New Creation Collective
241
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Posted - 2013.04.02 13:58:00 -
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Quote:95% of all statistics are invented on the spot.
The other 5% came out of a rectal orifice.
I'll leave it up to you to decide whether I made that statistic up on the spot or pulled it out of my ass. I'll concede that it was one of the two.
I have spent some time in nullsec, whatever my detractors may think. Nullsec is good times, and life there is certainly driven by PvP, but there is a whole lot of PVE that goes on as well. Ratting anoms, things like that. Many nullsec residents don't do anything on their own initiative but PVE until fleets form up, then hop in their doctrine ship and go F1 at whoever they are told to. Is everybody like that? Hell, no. I don't think I shot at a single red cross during my time in null, and many other people don't either. But I am here to tell you that the nullbear phenomenon is real. I've seen them. Not in the kind of numbers as you see in highsec, but there are people out there carebearing all the time. Nothing wrong with it, all play styles are legit. Just isn't my thing.
Anyway, yay burn Jita! About time, I missed the last, as I was taking a break from EVE at the time.
Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3967
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Posted - 2013.04.02 14:04:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Quote:95% of all statistics are invented on the spot.
The other 5% came out of a rectal orifice.
I'll leave it up to you to decide whether I made that statistic up on the spot or pulled it out of my ass. I'll concede that it was one of the two.
In all honesty.....the numbers should be switched for each other there.
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Ghazu
552
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Posted - 2013.04.02 14:43:00 -
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barbie lover say what?
http://www.minerbumping.com/
lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
Andrea Griffin
320
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:28:00 -
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The first "Burn Jita" was nearly a non-event. Oh, promises were made, we're going to blow up every hauler and freighter we see, it's going to be glorious, all hail the Goons, etc.
And then: A lot of people sitting around the undock with not much happening. It was very similar to every other day in Jita, quite honestly. I don't expect it to be any different this time around.
Please prove me wrong, however. I welcome a true burning this time.
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5776
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:37:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:The first "Burn Jita" was nearly a non-event. Oh, promises were made, we're going to blow up every hauler and freighter we see, it's going to be glorious, all hail the Goons, etc.
And then: A lot of people sitting around the undock with not much happening. It was very similar to every other day in Jita, quite honestly. I don't expect it to be any different this time around.
Please prove me wrong, however. I welcome a true burning this time.
We didnt blow up stuff on the station. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3974
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:38:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Andrea Griffin wrote:The first "Burn Jita" was nearly a non-event. Oh, promises were made, we're going to blow up every hauler and freighter we see, it's going to be glorious, all hail the Goons, etc.
And then: A lot of people sitting around the undock with not much happening. It was very similar to every other day in Jita, quite honestly. I don't expect it to be any different this time around.
Please prove me wrong, however. I welcome a true burning this time. We didnt blow up stuff on the station.
Actually that is very true. Most of the stories I heard were from the Gates, and other system gates, particularly Perimeter, which had a very high system population through the event.
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1171
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:44:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:The first "Burn Jita" was nearly a non-event. Oh, promises were made, we're going to blow up every hauler and freighter we see, it's going to be glorious, all hail the Goons, etc.
And then: A lot of people sitting around the undock with not much happening. It was very similar to every other day in Jita, quite honestly. I don't expect it to be any different this time around.
Please prove me wrong, however. I welcome a true burning this time.
Hmmm. Maybe you were in a different Jita than I was?
At kickoff, TiDi went to max, ships were asploding everywhere, and Concordokken Comedy was dialed to '11.'
I personally salvaged 40 wercks before becoming one in one of the most perfectly-baited traps ever - along with 20+ of my fellow ninjas.
I'll grant that following days were less than thrilling, but the kickoff was excellent.
Sadly, I believe they've 'fixed' the mechanic/issue that caused the Concordokkencomedy.  If Jita burns again - I hope they'll revert the code. 'Cause it was hilarious. 
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2289
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:44:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:The first "Burn Jita" was nearly a non-event
Aside from CCP having to post a travel advisory on the login screen for something players were doing ingame, dozens of writeups in the gaming media and hundreds of players coming back/ trying EVE for the first time because they heard about the galactic trade hub being seiged.
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
686
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:55:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Andrea Griffin wrote:The first "Burn Jita" was nearly a non-event Aside from CCP having to post a travel advisory on the login screen for something players were doing ingame, dozens of writeups in the gaming media and hundreds of players coming back/ trying EVE for the first time because they heard about the galactic trade hub being seiged.
...and halved trade volume.
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/28130/1/marketorders.png
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
225
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Posted - 2013.04.02 15:56:00 -
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It was a typo. Its burn Rens this year. Dodixie gets it next year, CCP wanted farms and fields so this is EVE crop rotation in action. |
March rabbit
No Name No Pain
608
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Posted - 2013.04.02 16:10:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:March rabbit wrote:2. "incorrect stamement" - I would like to see any other reasons outside of "basically empty outside of fleetfights" which needs another proof. Let's say goonswarm alliance has 7000 members (exact number doesn't matter here). Fleetfights rarely draws more than 500-1000 people for one side and take from few to several hours. How it is possible to fleetfights to be the main job of said alliance? I guess the same can be said about any big alliance. How many people are active in all of nullsec, at any given time? How many of those do PVE? How many of those just sit logged in in stations? How many of those are out doing PVP? (Hint: it's not 99% doing PVE.)
again: will we see any real numbers? Or this is another "i'm right because i'm right"?
Note: i'm not against number. It can be right. However my experience (from, Droneland 2011-2012) shown that like 50-70% of 0.0 people were just carebearing. Made trip around the universe and found PVE everywhere. And found very low PvP activity at the same time. Maybe something has changed since. Maybe not. This is not a point. The point is: you provide facts (or you are saying this) and i try to get some proofs of these facts. No luck up to this moment. |
March rabbit
No Name No Pain
608
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Posted - 2013.04.02 16:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:okay noted expert march rabbit can you show us what is clearly your plethora evidence that 99% of what most people do in nullsec is PvE
trying to move subject. 
sorry but question is: why "99% is ..." is wrong.
Andski wrote:certainly you're not going to ask us to disprove this nonsensical statement because you're the one backing up the other guy's assertion!
and again: you won't move the subject
Because i don't know exact number. And no one knows. But Lord Zim said that he KNOWS and we discuss it. |
Ch3244
Trojan Legion
Fidelas Constans
233
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Posted - 2013.04.02 16:43:00 -
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well someone didnt get the april fools memo |
Mirajane Cromwell
130
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Posted - 2013.04.02 18:45:00 -
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Why don't they just burn all major trade hubs at the same time? That would be fun to watch  |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3978
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Posted - 2013.04.02 18:48:00 -
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Mirajane Cromwell wrote:Why don't they just burn all major trade hubs at the same time? That would be fun to watch
Seriously.....I have wondered about this.
"It's the only way to be sure."
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Mark Rain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.02 18:59:00 -
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Mirajane Cromwell wrote:Why don't they just burn all major trade hubs at the same time? That would be fun to watch
And with that in mind....trading and hauling at Amarr VIII will be the low risk option.
Yeah, not covering all the bases tends to be an event just for the sake of ego. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3978
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:11:00 -
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Mark Rain wrote:
Yeah, not covering all the bases tends to be an event just for the sake of ego.
Makes sense considering who was doing the promoting last year........
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:58:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Heh so cute, he actually thinks a majority (or 99%) of us rat/grind standings/mine/manufacture in nullsec.
Oh, you'll PvE, you have zero choice.
You'll even feed the rats golden cheese and give them belly rubs and bubble baths.
Why?
You're an addict.
So, get in line hiver, and get with the program.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Lord Zim
2310
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Posted - 2013.04.02 20:04:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:again: will we see any real numbers? Or this is another "i'm right because i'm right"?
How many characters are in nullsec? How many are active in nullsec at any given time? What's that, "less than 99%"? Why yes, yes it is.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.04.02 20:23:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:How many characters are in nullsec?
We know one that isn't!
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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