Around the time of what was to be the start of the second Mittani CSM the CSM charter was published somewhere on the forums. I wish I could find the link; but after a few half-hearted searches I gave up out of sheer laziness. It does however describe everything about the CSM in detail.

Your question is touched on briefly in the "How to raise a proposal" section of EVElopedia. See the section on ignore / rejection of proposals.

This is of course you're talking about proposals raised in the Assembly hall with popular support and so forth. If it's just a throwaway forum thread well; it's not part of the CSM process then is it?

"My proposal was ignored

What can I do ?

Did your proposal contain the information listed above?
Time during a CSM meeting is limited so proposals may be prioritised based on support. If your proposal didn't make it onto the agenda then try to get more supporters. "

Correct because in an STV system by not voting you are effecting the election exactly as if you voted for the people who everyone else is voting.

So in another words non-voters are siding with Null sec at this point. I do hope they point out when they win the massive support they got from the non-voters.

Exactly what sizable % demographic of eve players are saying that HMLS should reach out to 500km's these days? Oh that's right, your example has no realistic frame of reference.

you can't say csm should represent all points of view, then ignore how ******** that idea is just because i proved you wrong.

i see you've never watched any wrestling have you?

You did no such thing. You simply disregarded and misread several of my posts and then patted yourself on the back.

Nowhere does it say they are there to slap down ideas princess. It says...

Nowhere does it say that the CSM has the right to screen (or slap down) any idea that has a large enough following. They are only there to convey it. You get 9.5 stars for a semi-intellgent retort however. Do you have anymore?

What went wrong ?
The CSM represents a good cross section of Eve players and might have spotted something that needed amending in your proposal.

If the CSM rejected a proposal was it due to lack of detail? If so you can talk to any of the CSM who supported it and see about amending it for a future meeting.

Some ideas will never be accepted, this is unfortunate but not a decision taken lightly

You did no such thing. You simply disregarded and misread several of my posts and then patted yourself on the back.

no, i quite clearly stated with justification, why csm members shouldn't champion bad ideas like you suggested.

Your example does not accurately represent any known idea on the table supported by any of EVE's various demographics or population bases. You sir, are deluding yourself because i have been happily kicking your ass repeatedly over two days (soon to be 3 )

You sir, are deluding yourself because i have been happily kicking your ass repeatedly over two days (soon to be 3 )

Strange how you seem to think everyone misreads your threads.

I can prove you easily wrong, you don't vote, so your opinion is irreverent.

clearly you've never been to F&I subforum, it regularly has ideas that terrible popping up..

also, you say i'm deluding myself then claim you've been kicking my ass repeatedly for two days. yet i've been in the thread for like 2 hours,

I thought I remembered you from yesterday. Oh well, all of you avatars basically look alike anyway. Except for me that is.

the prosecution moves to dismiss all arguments due to mental instability.

The last resort of a debater that no longer has a leg to stand on. You try being in an argument with several forum trolls at the end of the second day and see if you remember them all. I am doing pretty good

The last resort of a debater that no longer has a leg to stand on. You try being in an argument with several forum trolls at the end of the second day and see if you remember them all. I am doing pretty good

actually it was complete sarcasm, but you seem to be far too serious to understand and have a giggle.
your loss.

You must have missed the part where I called the other guy a poopyface.

@Ai Shun


You are inferring meaning where there is none. According to that text the CSM specifically can reject ideas that 1. are not detailed enough and 2. do not have a large enough of a following. So they are either not prepared in a cohesive enough, well thought out and realized manner (or) there are simply not enough people following it for it to be a worth while pursuit.



Nowhere does it say that a CSM is endowed with the authority to judge whether or not any idea that is 1. properly presented and 2. has a large enough following is "worthy" to be brought before CCP. Aka... they are not endowed with the power to slap down stupid ideas as the CSM want-to-be suggests.



You are wrong.

Sorry mate, I know you desperately want to be right on this one but from what is written on the CSM and documented about their processes you are not.

Bullshit...mate. The CSM does not have the authority to reject an idea that is both well worded and has a notable following--and then choose not bring said idea to the table at CCP. He/she may do so anyway, but that is not in their actual authority. Sorry. No way no how.

Maybe you can point to this fact in the white paper, where they have to pay attention to a crap idea, no matter how good the following.

Any well worded, well thought out idea that has a notable (or sizable) following by the playerbase, is meant to be brought before CCP. CCP decides the merit of the idea, and whether or not said idea is feasible. The CSM does not. The CSM is just a representative.



It can't be more clear. You are just stubborn somehow bred with stupid.

I think the Frying Doom Bot is falling into some kind of weird feedback loop. It is now not making any sense at all.

Bullshit...mate. The CSM does not have the authority to reject an idea that is both well worded and has a notable following--and then choose not bring said idea to the table at CCP. He/she may do so anyway, but that is not in their actual authority. Sorry. No way no how.

In order to raise an issue, simply create a new thread. In the title write a brief description and in the body, give as many details about your idea as possible. Any person replying to the thread can check a box to show support for the issue, which provides at-a-glance on the thread listing how supported an idea is. If a CSM member wants to raise an issue in a meeting, they are only allowed to select issues arising from threads in the Assembly hall, and only threads that are at least a week old.

When a CSM member selects the issue, they must create a page in the EVE wiki, condensing all the forum input into a solid idea that can then be voted upon.

Out of all the issues that pass, the CSM brings them to CCP, who removes all the issues that are moot, and talks with the CSM about the remainder. At this point, a relevant employee in CCP is assigned the issue and asked to do some research on it- is it feasible? is it a good idea? Such answers are found and returned to the CSM during the CSM-CCP meetings online and in Iceland. Issues that pass are added to CCP's "backlog"- that is, their to-do list for implementation in the game.

It is not the role of the representative to make that desertion.

Any well worded, well thought out idea that has a notable (or sizable) following by the playerbase, is meant to be brought before CCP. CCP decides the merit of the idea, and whether or not said idea is feasible. The CSM does not. The CSM is just a representative.



It can't be more clear. You are just stubborn somehow bred with stupid.