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Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:29:00 -
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So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.
This is a joke right?
I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.
Clarification from CCP?
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shashe sin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:31:00 -
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lol.... |

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:32:00 -
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Oh, they already know you have nothing to hide.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
103
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:32:00 -
[4] - Quote
Here is some clarification for you. Don't believe anything you hear. Silly Americans.. ~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~ -á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |

Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
2
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:33:00 -
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Which homeland are you refferring to? |

Rene Fullchest
Disgruntled Postal Workers Union
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:34:00 -
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(Said in the very best Bugs Bunny voice-over...)
What a maroon! |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
209
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:35:00 -
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makes as much sense as an AUSTRIAN KANGAROO [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
52
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:35:00 -
[8] - Quote
*doesn't know whether to laugh or cry* quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
147
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:36:00 -
[9] - Quote
wat |

Cire XIII
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:37:00 -
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It's pretty well known and established that agencies such as the FBI have teams dedicated to monitoring MMOs and other online forums (read communities) for suspicious activities. Think of all the extended metaphors for an "event" that could be conveyed in a game setting without raising suspicion.
Now logs and the companies themselves working hand in hand. That would seem unlikely, but :tinfoil: |

Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:50:00 -
[11] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.
This is a joke right?
I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.
Clarification from CCP?
Paranoia, Paranoia, everybody's coming to get me... |

Sebero Sinak
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:52:00 -
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In our ongoing attempts to become more informed on these matters , i and my team have designed detachable , very durable
( used freezer grade foil ) wings for our hats and glided into a small airport on the Canadian border.
Overcoming canadian security was easy ( they were drinking Molson and watching "That 70's Show" ) and never noticed us.
We found no evidence of information trafficing between Iceland and the USA....of course if you know what it looks like that would help. |

mkint
145
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:53:00 -
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u suck @ trollin |

Ramacliv
RC Minerals and Salvage
8
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Posted - 2011.10.16 23:59:00 -
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Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.
Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia. |

Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:02:00 -
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Dunno about DHS but maybe for advertisement purposes. The other night I was talking with someone about employment opportunities in the mining sector. Rio Tinto and BHP Biliiton were mentioned a few times now my Yahoo home page is full of Rio Tinto ads looking to fill positions across Canada. |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:03:00 -
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I don't know about you, but I don't think Homeland Security has any use with my bookmarks that lead to asteroid belt pixels (unless they are playing Eve Online too and are just scared of me competing against them). |

Ascendant Sean
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:05:00 -
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Confirming that an Icelandic company, with servers based in London, would hand over all data to an American bureau. For no reason. Without a warrant. And without informing those affected. |

Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
40
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:05:00 -
[18] - Quote
Ramacliv wrote:Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.
Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia.
really big bombs. Bin ladin. Bin ladin's brother. Your mother. Death to America. Hate...freedoms and happiness. jihad jihad. Hairy women are the best.
Am i going to recieve a knock on the door over this. |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
209
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:05:00 -
[19] - Quote
Kehro Urgus wrote:Dunno about DHS but maybe for advertisement purposes. The other night I was talking with someone about employment opportunities in the mining sector. Rio Tinto and BHP Biliiton were mentioned a few times now my Yahoo home page is full of Rio Tinto ads looking to fill positions across Canada. 
This may interest you dood, Rio are selling some Aus assets to expand with Alcan [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Sebero Sinak
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:06:00 -
[20] - Quote
Ramacliv wrote:Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.
Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia.
Many public ( public in this case means funded by small educational grants and private foundations and viewers) tv stations in usa have discussed this issue - the privacy vs public safety thing...so far the FBI is free to monitor world wide electronic communications and does.
Careful you don't hit the wrong button selecting your **** and get flagged for something really deviate. |

Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:08:00 -
[21] - Quote
We are a rowdy bunch.
EVE O Players have already instigated and supported 7 coup d'etats so far.
3 in South America 2 in Eastern Europe 1 in the Middle East 1 in Africa
We are pretty far behind the CIA but in our short time we have been effective in spreading our Capitalistic goals.
They are watching us for Tips not Terrorism. |

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Iure Divino
56
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:09:00 -
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Yes, they watch everything. |

Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:10:00 -
[23] - Quote
Headerman wrote:Kehro Urgus wrote:Dunno about DHS but maybe for advertisement purposes. The other night I was talking with someone about employment opportunities in the mining sector. Rio Tinto and BHP Biliiton were mentioned a few times now my Yahoo home page is full of Rio Tinto ads looking to fill positions across Canada.  This may interest you dood, Rio are selling some Aus assets to expand with Alcan
Not surprised they are really busy up here. |

rodyas
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:26:00 -
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Ramacliv wrote:Actually only if they feel the need to they subpoena the logs for a certain time frame. The actual truth is they have a program running that "reports" key words in conversations alerting authorities who then further monitor or even subpoena records. Sadly this is done without our or the chat host's knowledge or consent. They also scan message boards using the same program. Taking it a bit further certain words, phrases, and discussions get your user name/ID put on a list and red flagged for monitoring more closely.
Whether you believe it or not big brother is out there listening in and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. The future is here and welcome to the paranoia.
I dont know dude, I was helping help chat, and people hate googleing. Sure all they have to do is type in I hate bush, or Kill bush into google, for the FBI to spy on people. But seriously who uses google?
I think they would spy on eve, get russians, europes, other countries here. Be a big gold strike. |

Tiberius Amzadee
The Omega Sovereign Flux Initiative
1
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:36:00 -
[25] - Quote
Hahaha! If only that rumor were true every single pilot in this game would be on the terror watch list,they even might have to create a new one just for us. A "Mass murderer warning" list? I mean,I'm sure many of us don't even count how many station and ship crews we've killed in missions and fleet actions anymore. |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
165
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:39:00 -
[26] - Quote
who or what is department of homeland security and why should i care
Like i said on facebook i play eve to get isk so that i can buy drugs and use them while i kill people who just want to go about their day, earning a honest living while breaking rocks on high security places..
aint nothin wrong with that Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
25
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:44:00 -
[27] - Quote
DHS is looking for people that shiled tank Apocs, because they are obviously anarchits. |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
72
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:44:00 -
[28] - Quote
ccp only share our data with the Jovian directorate......... us government is not worthy of our info
also ain't USA as broke as EU now? |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
166
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Posted - 2011.10.17 00:51:00 -
[29] - Quote
David Grogan wrote:ccp only share our data with the Jovian directorate......... us government is not worthy of our info
also ain't USA as broke as EU now?
Actually its "EU is as broke as USA" now. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
68
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:03:00 -
[30] - Quote
They might have programs going through heaps of useless chat logs. But I doubt many would take those logs seriously.
If they knew people who were suspicious and wanted to watch them. I'd think it much more likely that they'd look at the chat logs of those people in games and see who they talk to. I believe it'd be more focused. I don't think they'd necessarily ask CCP is they could look at the chat logs of everything said in game.
Most the time these agencies/organisations have pretty good hacking programs, and usually the laws, that allow them to use hacking to watch what suspicious people do on their computers. Not some random games logs. It wouldn't matter what game it was.
It'd be a waste of time, for most people, to worry about such a thing. |

Rubix Khamsi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:12:00 -
[31] - Quote
america wants my t2 cov ops cloak... |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:15:00 -
[32] - Quote
they do cause obama plays eve |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
168
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:17:00 -
[33] - Quote
I think you people are crazy. Just take a loot at your own logs folder size. Now you tell me that they keep logs on all 500.000 accounts all the way back from 2003? Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:19:00 -
[34] - Quote
every time smart bomb is typed a flag is tripped ..
oh cra... |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
168
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:39:00 -
[35] - Quote
I am going to gather 10 to 15 stealth bombers, and attack some towers.. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
69
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:55:00 -
[36] - Quote
In Australia giving someone a death threat is enough to give our agencies permission to watch you and hack into your computer to watch what things you do online or see what you have on your computer.
You just have to give them a reason to do it, and they will.
They need to practice on someone. So when they actually need the skill they have it. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
153
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:07:00 -
[37] - Quote
It's worth pointing out that while the company is Icelandic, the servers and user data are in the UK.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
71
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:15:00 -
[38] - Quote
Intelligence agenies in most places can only request the logs/data under probable cause (ie they meet someone in game discussing terrorist tatics against real targets).
There is and shouldnt be any agreement for a periodic turn in. Only on a per request.
Even then they're going to use alot of filters in order to narrowdown the information they're looking for so chances of what sexting you done with your ingame girlfriend probably wont be popping up. Unless ingame girlfriend is underaged and they're actually a cop on the other side.
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KaarBaak
98
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:26:00 -
[39] - Quote
See something, say something.
Those "afk cloakers"...they're not afk--they're listening posts.
Personally, I upload my chat and combat logs to FTP.FBI.gov nightly. You're either with them or you're ag'in 'em. When they start kicking in doors, I want to make sure they know that I'm willing to do whatever it takes to prove I'm on their team. I'm that kind of weasel.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
370
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:27:00 -
[40] - Quote
I heard the same rumors; supposedly they have a new employee called CCP Party Van responsible for collecting and sending data to be mined by NSA. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:28:00 -
[41] - Quote
It has come to my attention that any electronic communication with the words 'bomb', 'terrorist' or 'attack' will be red-flagged for assessment by the world's police forces at their leisure.
Now that they are all listening, do you think you could find whoever it was stole my car?
Thanks.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
71
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:38:00 -
[42] - Quote
Chopper Rollins wrote:It has come to my attention that any electronic communication with the words 'bomb', 'terrorist' or 'attack' will be red-flagged for assessment by the world's police forces at their leisure.
Now that they are all listening, do you think you could find whoever it was stole my car?
Thanks.
Only thing patriot act did was legalize it. |

Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
18
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:25:00 -
[43] - Quote
What you are referring to is ESCHELON...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
and it is very old news. |

Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:34:00 -
[44] - Quote
The Mittani runs the shadow government. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
50
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:04:00 -
[45] - Quote
As an American terrorist who believes in liberty for all, sound money, the end of the Federal Reserve (which is private), and supports Ron Paul, I HOPE CCP is sending my logs to DHS so the bastards put me on the no-fly list and I can actually have proof that I am fulfilling my role as a Jeffersonian Radical.
Eventually the only people who won't be on that list are the bastards and a few million brainless sheeple.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
71
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:27:00 -
[46] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:As an American terrorist who believes in liberty for all, sound money, the end of the Federal Reserve (which is private), and supports Ron Paul, I HOPE CCP is sending my logs to DHS so the bastards put me on the no-fly list and I can actually have proof that I am fulfilling my role as a Jeffersonian Radical.
Eventually the only people who won't be on that list are the bastards and a few million brainless sheeple.
Unfourtunately. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
88
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:Here is some clarification for you. Don't believe anything you hear. Silly Americans.. 
sorry, more like don't put anything past our stinking wretched government who are bought and paid for like the cattle they are
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
80
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:43:00 -
[48] - Quote
I am now taking orders for my top-quality Aluminium foil hats. Aluminum for Americans, I cater for all tastes. All hats come with a certifcate of guarantee to block 99.98% of verbage. Included is an easy-to-read single-page instruction manual. Now on special for the low, low price of 10 ISK each.
But wait, there's more....
For an additional 3 ISK, you will have your Hat, the manual AND a special collectors edition of "Miners Lament", signed by a random member of Goonswarm.
And if you hurry and buy now :
Not only will you have your Hat, the manual, the special (signed) collectors edition of "Miners Lament", but you will receive 1 (one) free pass to a local South African resort of my choice. A place for "special" people.
_______
Look, paranoia is an essential part of life these days - to a degree. I would not like to be an American living in America these days. The recent tragic events would make me a confirmed paranoid. But really - gaming logs viewd by the FBI ? They must have 4 million staff members, reading gaming logs all day, even if just for keywords such as "bomb", "take control of", "assassinate", "shoot".
Oh wait, Eve would be targetted as a major terrorist training camp then....
LOL.
Love it all.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
88
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:51:00 -
[49] - Quote
Thorn Galen wrote:I am now taking orders for my top-quality Aluminium foil hats. Aluminum for Americans, I cater for all tastes. All hats come with a certifcate of guarantee to block 99.98% of verbage. Included is an easy-to-read single-page instruction manual. Now on special for the low, low price of 10 ISK each.
But wait, there's more....
For an additional 3 ISK, you will have your Hat, the manual AND a special collectors edition of "Miners Lament", signed by a random member of Goonswarm.
And if you hurry and buy now :
Not only will you have your Hat, the manual, the special (signed) collectors edition of "Miners Lament", but you will receive 1 (one) free pass to a local South African resort of my choice. A place for "special" people.
_______
Look, paranoia is an essential part of life these days - to a degree. I would not like to be an American living in America these days. The recent tragic events would make me a confirmed paranoid. But really - gaming logs viewd by the FBI ? They must have 4 million staff members, reading gaming logs all day, even if just for keywords such as "bomb", "take control of", "assassinate", "shoot".
Oh wait, Eve would be targetted as a major terrorist training camp then....
LOL.
Love it all.
dude I live in a city that has a police force with military equipment.... that has recently acknowledged the fact that they can shoot down an airliner
you tell me who needs a tin foil hat The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
80
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:58:00 -
[50] - Quote
I sell ballistically-hardened hard-hats as well.
Seriously though, it's a matter of keeping it real. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Cyaxares II
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.17 06:09:00 -
[51] - Quote
Adunh Slavy wrote:DHS is looking for people that shiled tank Apocs, because they are obviously anarchits. that would have been a pretty large part of IT  |

Dalmont Delantee
Shiloh Technologies STR8NGE BREW
10
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Posted - 2011.10.17 06:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:David Grogan wrote:ccp only share our data with the Jovian directorate......... us government is not worthy of our info
also ain't USA as broke as EU now? Actually its "EU is as broke as USA" now.
Don't lump us British in there we still have our triple A rating (for now). Suck on it America :-p
Oooo does that mean I'm now going to get black bagged and take away? |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
69
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Posted - 2011.10.17 06:25:00 -
[53] - Quote
Thorn Galen wrote:I am now taking orders for my top-quality Aluminium foil hats. Aluminum for Americans, I cater for all tastes. All hats come with a certifcate of guarantee to block 99.98% of verbage. Included is an easy-to-read single-page instruction manual. Now on special for the low, low price of 10 ISK each.
But wait, there's more....
For an additional 3 ISK, you will have your Hat, the manual AND a special collectors edition of "Miners Lament", signed by a random member of Goonswarm.
And if you hurry and buy now :
Not only will you have your Hat, the manual, the special (signed) collectors edition of "Miners Lament", but you will receive 1 (one) free pass to a local South African resort of my choice. A place for "special" people. Wow!! That's really cheap! I had to pay a lot more for my last one...
I'm putting in my order now for 10 and 1 copy of "Miners Lament".
So that's 103 isk? I still can't believe how cheap it is. There has to be a catch! Are you some kind of spy and you've put a listening device into the hats?!?! |

Freyh
ClownStar
8
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Posted - 2011.10.17 06:55:00 -
[54] - Quote
Quote:
really big bombs. Bin ladin. Bin ladin's brother. Your mother. Death to America. Hate...freedoms and happiness. jihad jihad. Hairy women are the best.
Am i going to recieve a knock on the door over this.
Maybe the hairy women part.
"So mr. I hear you like hairy women?" |

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2011.10.17 06:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Heh, tinfoil hats were defeated by workarounds in the 70s. If you hear crickets later in the day, that'll be me, warming up the satellite link to the mind control lasers.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Porto Betalt
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:10:00 -
[56] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.
This is a joke right?
I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.
Clarification from CCP?
ofcourse not, that information is turned over to kgb, dummy. Gentlemen! |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
316
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:20:00 -
[57] - Quote
The servers are in London and therefore outside the jurisdiction of the DHS.
So if anyone's listening in, it will be GCHQ / M15 / Special Branch Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

DarkAegix
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
102
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Posted - 2011.10.17 08:00:00 -
[58] - Quote
My Drake fittings! My precious Drake fittings!
Those are military secrets of the highest degree!
Do you think they have enough people to manually go over every single bit of information they intercept? No. Computers look for keywords and probably intelligently read sentences.
Either removal your tinfoil or cut yourself off from society. |

Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
10
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Posted - 2011.10.17 08:22:00 -
[59] - Quote
DarkAegix wrote:My Drake fittings! My precious Drake fittings!
Those are military secrets of the highest degree!
Do you think they have enough people to manually go over every single bit of information they intercept?
This is why CCP are limiting our saved ship fittings to 50 - the DHS don't have enough internet spaceship ship fitting assessment operatives to cope with any more!
|

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
62
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Posted - 2011.10.17 08:29:00 -
[60] - Quote
First of all ...
OF COURSE everything you hear/read is abso-*******-lutely right. OF COURSE it is ! There's not the SLIGHTEST reason not to think that !
Second ...
Even IF they do it, they HAVE to anyway, because there's not much choice.
If you had a company depending on subscribers, and if you had quite a few thousand subscribers coming from the US, you don't argue about it, but just do it.
That said, HomeLand Security is the number one motherfucking ****.
Edit: (motherfucking. wow. not censored. cool. IT'S LEGAL !!) (************. ************ motherfucker ************)
(CCP, YOU'VE MISSED WORD !!)
Edit2: Funny. motherfuckING is okay too. ^^
Reported myself. xD |

Naran Eto
Kut-n-Run
19
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Posted - 2011.10.17 09:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
Dalmont Delantee wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:David Grogan wrote:ccp only share our data with the Jovian directorate......... us government is not worthy of our info
also ain't USA as broke as EU now? Actually its "EU is as broke as USA" now. Don't lump us British in there we still have our triple A rating (for now). Suck on it America :-p Oooo does that mean I'm now going to get black bagged and take away?
I'd hardly say we have a "triple A" rating tight now to be honest.
The UK national debt clock is still ticking fast. We already owe -ú1,043 billion as of April 2011 and a predicted -ú1.2 trillion just one year later. Yes, that really is -ú1,216,000,000,000.
To pay this year's -ú43 billion interest bill, every household will stump up more than -ú1,800 in tax. That's not a joke - that really is how much it's going to cost you. The UK's national debt has become so astronomical that it's hard to make sense of it anymore.
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Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
13
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Posted - 2011.10.17 11:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
Keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin' |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
157
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Posted - 2011.10.17 11:46:00 -
[63] - Quote
Yes it is true we they are monitoring us.
But for a fee I can make that all go away, 500 million isk and your files will no longer be in our the FBI's database! - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Ay Liz
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
1
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Posted - 2011.10.17 11:49:00 -
[64] - Quote
I can tell you if it's true after you send me 1 billion in non consecutive 100 ISK bills. Send it from an alt to my alt.
And always remember, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. |

WisdomLikeSilence
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
54
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Posted - 2011.10.17 12:55:00 -
[65] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.
This is a joke right?
I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.
Clarification from CCP?
Yes, the ICELANDIC department of homeland security.
But seriously, Iceland doesnt have a gestapo. |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
69
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Posted - 2011.10.17 12:59:00 -
[66] - Quote
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:Wot I Think wrote:So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.
This is a joke right?
I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.
Clarification from CCP?
Yes, the ICELANDIC department of homeland security. But seriously, Iceland doesnt have a gestapo. Icelandic DHS alt detected. |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
58
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Posted - 2011.10.17 13:16:00 -
[67] - Quote
that's how he knew my fittings! |

Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
181
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Posted - 2011.10.17 13:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
Paranoia strikes deep... Into your heart it will creep... |

Garia666
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:01:00 -
[69] - Quote
well pretty easy to test... just say to your alt that your planning on killing obama.... if they raiding your house in the middle of the night youll know its true ;) |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:17:00 -
[70] - Quote
Yes the Home Guard is always watching. It is your duty to report anything suspicious.
Whenever I here about Home Land Security I start thinking of Babylon 5.
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Naran Eto
Kut-n-Run
20
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:30:00 -
[71] - Quote
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:Wot I Think wrote:So, chatting in EVE today I am told that CCP turns over all of our chat logs, personal fittings, notes, bookmarks, and other assorted information to the Department of Homeland Security every so often.
This is a joke right?
I have nothing to hide, but it seems like a wholly necessary thing to do since CCP is in a different sovereign nation than the DHS.
Clarification from CCP?
Yes, the ICELANDIC department of homeland security.
Isn't that like a grumpy walrus and two geese that got lost trying to fly south for the winter? |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
389

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Posted - 2011.10.17 15:18:00 -
[72] - Quote
Clarification from CCP.
Mythbusters conclusion - BUSTED! CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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