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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:00:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:I'd be curious to see price charts for trit, pyer, and all core minerals from the start, and all new minerals or production materials from their introduction. Considering that someone was recently doing a Chicken Little routine over a trit price crash, and others gripe over the ISK/hour of mining scordite (as pyer is evidently in short supply, elevating prices), my guess is that prices are constantly fluctuating.
I can't provide anything like a full table but I can say, from my own records, that the price of most minerals has approximately doubled in the past eighteen months - with the notable exceptions of Zydrine and Megacyte, the prices for both of which have fallen slightly and Pyerite which has more than tripled in just the past year.
I do not believe however that this price hike has drastically changed the affordability of ships to newer players, at least not significantly, from the days of 1 ISK tritanium and 16 ISK Isogen.
There was a significant slump in prices, particularly of big ticket items like Battleships, when I was (probably) a year old - Ravens were going for about 85 million ISK - and it was then that I purchased my first Dominix.
I purchased a Thorax at a significant discount (5 mil, market price 7) from the corp I subsequently joined after more than two weeks in game... And it took a lot of work to get that money together.
The money available to newer players today, through the career agents, The Blood Stained Stars and so forth, is vastly greater than was available to the average newbie when I was still in the rookie help channel - and as their wealth has increased the buying power of their isk has, I'm afraid, dropped.
Nonetheless, the time it takes to develop (for example) from L1 and a frigate to L4 missions and a Battleship has dropped significantly thanks to things like the introduction of the the old Tier 2 Battlecruisers. |
CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:14:00 -
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Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:45:00 -
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I must be doing things wrong. Some BPO's, a venture, grind a few missions a week for LP. I'm able to grind out some frigate hulls , ammo and what not when I get the urge.
I produce what I need for my own personal use.
So I must be doing it wrong. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2013.04.16 18:42:00 -
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If you really want to lower the cost of ships:
Refactor asteroid belts to be more like ice belts. That is have the roids have an enormous amount of ore, to the point where you can park a Mack by one, turn on the lasers and come back 40 minutes later to a full hold with little chance the riod will pop while you are afk. There would not even be a need to increase the amount of ore that spawns in any given solar system, just change the belts to having a couple of large roids rather than a large number of small ones.
Do that and ore prices will fall just like ice prices have. They will continue to fall until miners turn to missions to get ISK.
But I think most players and CCP are leaning the other way: Make ice belts more like ore belts, with small, depeatable roids.
CCP actually has a system set up that controls inflation: Missions vs mining. If ore prices go up more players mine and fewer do missions. The result in an increase in materials (driving down prices) and a decrease in the ISK supply. So why have ore prices gone up recently? Because CCP has done some buffs that increase the rate you can make ISK from missions. Such as making all agents quality 20, the drone damage amplifier, the Noctis, and some weapons buffs. The ISK per hour you get from missioning has gone up, so more players mission and fewer mine. Then ore prices go up and the players switch back until a new equilibrium is established.
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Sons Of Alexander
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2013.04.16 22:14:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:On that I must agree inflation of 1-3% PA is the preferable range. Deflation is almost never preferable.
Murray Newton Rothbard
Quote:It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.
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