No. The isk lost is the amount you could have gotten for all the materials that went into building that ship, a percentage cost of the blueprint if it's a copy and anything the loot fairy claims for her dragon's horde of items.

Else you're saying I can build any ship in the game for the cost of a manufacturing slot, which is silly.

What Gallifreyan's talking about is the ISK which leaves the game. The fact the isk left you doesn't matter, it's where it went.

You know how hard it is to convince people I know to play this game? Very, often ending in failure.

EVE has never had a high retention rate.

economic "solution" = screw some people over to help other people in an attempt to fix an imaginary problem dreamed up by people that feel entitled.

With the summer expansion not that far away, the EVE economy is going to take a serious hit.

With Ship prices climbing all the time and the ship skill rebalance will make already expensive ships in much higher demand.

What's going to be done to adjust this? Will ship building costs go down to compensate or general money making things in EVE from bounties to rewards go up?

First time I bought a Charon it cost 680 mil, a raven about 100 mil. Ah the good old days Haha.

That describes most of the 'solutions' proposed on the forums!!

The only way to combat inflation in eve is to increase these sinks or come up with new ones.

ships are still to cheap seeing how easy it is to replace them and how easy it is to make isk.

Inflation is caused by an increase in the supply of money.

Yes but try buying a 150-300 mil ship unfitted no less, when you're a new player who doesn't know how to make any ISK. I've explained this to new players I've met and was almost apologetic about the high costs. I think alot of T1 ships have very expensive to very ridiculous costs.

With the summer expansion not that far away, the EVE economy is going to take a serious hit.

With Ship prices climbing all the time and the ship skill rebalance will make already expensive ships in much higher demand.

What's going to be done to adjust this? Will ship building costs go down to compensate or general money making things in EVE from bounties to rewards go up?

First time I bought a Charon it cost 680 mil, a raven about 100 mil. Ah the good old days Haha.

While there is some inflation in Eve, it's not what's responsible for the increase in prices you're prattling on about.

Mineral prices are up because mineral supply is down.

Inflationary price increases would yield an increase in prices across the board. We're mostly seeing price increases where the bulk of the cost is in minerals.

Looked at T3 prices lately?

You're completely ignoring some extremely huge changes in the supply/demand curve, so your position is ultimately a naively informed one.

While there is some inflation in Eve, it's not what's responsible for the increase in prices you're prattling on about.

Mineral prices are up because mineral supply is down.

Inflationary price increases would yield an increase in prices across the board. We're mostly seeing price increases where the bulk of the cost is in minerals.

Looked at T3 prices lately?

You're completely ignoring some extremely huge changes in the supply/demand curve, so your position is ultimately a naively informed one.

People are comparing it to how long it takes for a newb to get ship X or Y etc .


If you've played eve from around the start you'd know T1 ships are MUCH faster obtained now even with the huge increase of purchase cost.

Don't remind me, it took so long to get a cruiser.

But the up side was you thought it was something special when you finally got it

Yet you took it for a spin into null without a blink ...

It has a very high retention rate for those who enjoy it, and those are the ones who matter.

Yes but try buying a 150-300 mil ship unfitted no less, when you're a new player who doesn't know how to make any ISK. I've explained this to new players I've met and was almost apologetic about the high costs. I think alot of T1 ships have very expensive to very ridiculous costs.

Yes but try buying a 150-300 mil ship unfitted no less, when you're a new player who doesn't know how to make any ISK. I've explained this to new players I've met and was almost apologetic about the high costs. I think alot of T1 ships have very expensive to very ridiculous costs.

Actually I took it into lo-sec and someone was kind enough to show me the error of my ways, but I did learn that being pod killed was a fast way back home.

Actually in a game environment like eve where they have changed the supply of minerals (removing gun mining, altering mining barges) will have a large effect on mineral prices so no one good or set of goods are specific to inflation, which is why in countries they measure inflation over a large number of items. And if you look at minerals as a whole they have always trended upwards over time, excluding the last few months.

And at the end of the day I will except what Dr. Eyj+¦lfur Gu+¦mundsson said on the matter last year, that it was a concern and that they needed to find new isk sinks.

So my naivety is backed by an economist, whats your position backed by?

CCP talked last year about being concerned with inflation, however.

Tons of new isk is being generatrd through NPC bounties and mission rewards.
There are not enough isk sinks in the game to combat this.

When your ship explodes, the only isk to leave the game is the isk paid for the manufacturing slot (which is negligible)

Isk sinks currently include War dec costs, expired insurace fees, broker fees, market taxes (not corp tax), office rental, ship repair, locator agents. Etc.

The only way to combat inflation in eve is to increase these sinks or come up with new ones.

What he said and what you said are only loosely related.

This is a common feature of the Eve Online chicken-little whinge post.

Unlike your post, his fanfest talk very specifically included the supply/demand curve shifts in addition to money supply (as well as other factors, like speculation).

His conclusion was, "Yeah, we'll continue to keep an eye on things."

Your conclusion was, "AMG the Eveconermy is gunna asplode!!11!1!"

Anyways, I don't see inflation being as bad as some people make it out to be. And most economists agree that inflation is preferable to deflation where prices fall and people produce less.