And of course, they need to clean the name registar too for any characters on accounts which haven't been active in over a period of time.

Don't have to delete the character, just have them rename for free when they come back online.

OP... you ever hear of the search function?

and NO to name changes.

Your name links you to your reputation. Eve as a game needs to maintain characters reputations.

And don't come back with that 'put old name in an aliases tab in char info' Bullspit.... that's not a solution, that just means players will have to make hundreds more calls to the char information database every play session.

I assume by a "Reputation" you mean Corporate Thieves/Griefers. Now what if that "Bad" Reputation character was sold to another player that knew nothing of this bad reputation or they just stopped using it. Then (s)he bought a brand new character with a clean history and "no" reputation. That leaves them able to build up false trust and wreck havoc again.

My point is there is not really a down fall to a name Change. As Thieves and Griefers have other ways to accomplish this in a much easier way already.

OP... you ever hear of the search function?

and NO to name changes.

Your name links you to your reputation. Eve as a game needs to maintain characters reputations.

And don't come back with that 'put old name in an aliases tab in char info' Bullspit.... that's not a solution, that just means players will have to make hundreds more calls to the char information database every play session.

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Also, I do wish people would search for the same thing they're posting and post on those threads instead. There have been a lot of "let me change my name" threads in the past and they've all ended in the same way because it would be detrimental to the game as a whole.

Personally, I'd pay for it just once - just to get rid of the stupid numbers after my name. They were only put there as a random & I never expected to still be playing after so many years...

Choices made.

and besides, just bcause their are expensive alternative for griefers, doesnt mean we should add in an option for them to have their cake and eat it too. right now the only way to "change your name" is to find a comarable character in the bazaar and buy it, which is not always possible.

Plus, the charactes who have been playng a very long time NEED consequences, if they screw up big time, they cant use that character anymore, and would be hard pressed to buy one as skilled as their main, so it encourags them t at least be a helpful/contributory player (at least on their main).

adding in a PLEX (read money) way to avoid consequences so you can have your cake and eat it too, would be horrible.

probablymissing some rationale i need to argue againt, but im falling asleep.

Every character is identified by a name.

1. Every character have a History, Based on choices made.

2. If you buy a character, ( That I personaly think that is something Really wrong), you must buy the history too at last.

3. Because you already can buy PLEX and trade into ISK. This makes having any kind of asset nothing especial at all. They can all be replaced.

4. But every character is unique. If you start buying them and customizing, changing name shape and history, nothing of this would have any value anymore. This will be just another PAY TO WIN game. And most of people will stop playing it or they would attack CCP as they did before.

5. So, NO. This is an recurring topic. In Every topic like this someone explains why not. You should have searched before posting such a pice of **** again, as the rules require you to do. And you should also look to know what is the jita monument destruction history.

Let me keep my contact list, and the assorted notes, associated with the character ID. Let me see who this character used to be (a.k.a.), as well as when the account the character belongs to was changed. Even with the way I have enjoyed playing the game in the past, I still think that this information is necessary.

Yes, exactly. What I have proposed will keep the user ID intact, just the display name for that user ID would be changed.

Edit:

Keeping the User ID intact means everyone that has notes on you or has you as a contact will still have those if you name change.

I'm also pretty sure that the "Key" field is the Name, as you can't have 2 equal names. So, also this would be a nightmare to develop. And how would you identify people changing name every day in your alliance?.... Bad Idea...

I'm also pretty sure that the "Key" field is the Name, as you can't have 2 equal names. So, also this would be a nightmare to develop. And how would you identify people changing name every day in your alliance?.... Bad Idea...

Once per account every three years.

Long enough time to reduce downsides to a minimum.

Short enough to have dedicated players who want to stick with their beloved pilot even in spite of poor naming when entering the game and not knowing much about it. Or reflecting relevant changes that the pilot has undergone.

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This timing is even acceptable in my opinion. It is a much longer cool-down but at least one would have the option.

Sometimes people get tired of their names and want to change them or they buy that new character off of the bazaar that had all of the skills they wanted but it has the worst name in the universe. Well here is an Idea I had. Provide a name Change Service.

Name Change Service:

-Cost: 1-2 PLEX
--The effort required to adjust this information is worth up to 2 PLEX in my opinion.

-Availability: Once a Year per account.
--Even though you have 3 slots per account only ONE name change is allowed for that account per year.

-ALL information attached to the character persists.
--Employment History
--Contacts and Contact Standings
--Notes saved by other players
--NPC standings
--Portrait

The only thing that changes is the displayed name of the character.


I think that this service could end up being very popular. Not only does it give players the ability to identify with there characters again, or identify with their newly aquired character they bought off of the Bazaar. It is also a new source of income for CCP.

As long as all character information remains through the name changing process and the service is restricted to once per year per account this wont be majorly exploitable by corporate thieves and griefers. Before people start to argue with me on this point; If people wanted to steal/grief they could find much easier ways than renaming their character. An example? Buying a new character, a service which is already provided by every other player.

If anyone has any constructive feedback feel free to post questions/concerns.

OP... you ever hear of the search function?

and NO to name changes.

Your name links you to your reputation. Eve as a game needs to maintain characters reputations.

And don't come back with that 'put old name in an aliases tab in char info' Bullspit.... that's not a solution, that just means players will have to make hundreds more calls to the char information database every play session.

u are identified by ur name. no changes.

how would u check the killboards for someone with a changed name? the character with the old name would have one set of kills and losses, but the new name would have an entirely separate list.

trying to add someone to ur contact list. u know the old name, but when u type it in it says they dnt exist, or they do exist, but its someone else, which is even worse.

^^this^^

so many issues would arose from this, like what about the watchlist (they are already so buggy, no need to add more) etc...?

You type their name in the contact list. One comes up white, the other greyed out (since you can only change your name every few years, you don't have a LOT of greyed out names). Look for the name that existed when you knew them, and find out on their AKA sheet who they are now.

Killboards may be going through a massive overhaul shortly if they update the API again with DUST and industry changes. Now would be a perfect time to make sure it's sorted by character ID more than name (since that was the designer of the killboards choice, to make the name the primary field, not CCP's).

Either way, in the case of a name change the API would be updated with the new name as well as the old one, so hallmarking a 'change of identity' would be very easy to do. And useful, especially in sold characters.

Every Character you see has a ID number attached to it that you never see.

Slhild could be 0001
Ruze could be 0002
Alx Warlord could be 0003
Z GTC could be 0004

etc etc etc

So if name changes ever happened I would still be known to the system and all of its programming as 0004. Therefore all other information tied to that ID# 0004 would be kept intact. The only thing that would change would be what that ID# told the system to display in game as it's name.

greyed out names? eve has been going on for ten years, in another ten years every character could have 4 greyed out names...lol, and if u cannot remember the name exactly the search function gives u a list of suggestions, each with their own greyed out names?

and killboards with api are fine, but not every kill or loss is submitted with API. many are submitted manually by name alone.

not thought through.

watchlist only tells u when they are online. doesnt tell u where they are (like local tells u where they AND that they are online). without it u could be decced against an alliance of 200 ppl, and have to individually locate each person, travel to the system, see that they are not in local and STILL have to wonder 'are they offline, or have they moved?' and run another locate.

watch list is not overpowered.

That's all well and good for the game's database, but what you don't address is the fact that other players don't know you (or see you) as '0004'. They know and see you as 'Z GTC'.... as soon as you change your name, unless a player actively goes through your char info, you appear to them to be a completely different person.

When you take this into account, along with me not knowing if you have an available name change or not....

For all I know every person who's name I don't recognize could be you. I would have to check every 'char info'.

OR

Every time I logged on, I would have to do a search for all the players I want to keep an eye out for, to see if the search function brings up a name change.

considering that the name change seems to be for vanity reasons only, it does not nearly warrent the work required to make it work.

Petition CCP to implement name change.

I don't know why people are so opposed to this idea. Just send an EVE-Mail to everyone who has the person in question as a contact. Simple, easy, effective.

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even if it cost 200 plexes, still no.

if u buy a character that has enemies, thats the inherent risk of buying a character. Because u ARE buying a character with history and a reputation, a reputation associated with his name. if u truly want a neutral character, then make ur own rather than buying.

as for mailing everyone who has the character as a contact...thats just silly. who sends the mail? what about ppl who dont currently have the character as a contact but want to look them up at a later date? what if one day i decided to go after seleene for his bounty, but i cant add him as a contact for my watchlist because he changed his name and i had no reason to have him as a contact until now?

I actually don't see any issues with the idea of changing names as often as one wants, as long as the following is done:

* The character obviously has an "original name" that was given to it by its first owner.

* A new name can be given to it anytime, however, that name is only an "alias" and remains purely for looks.

* Clicking on names brings up the character sheet with the current alias in such a way that anyone with an IQ higher then room temperature can plainly see that the "new" name is the alias, and ALL other information is still tied to a totally different name - that being the original name the toon was born with.

... on the flipside, the obvious MASSIVE cons against this idea is making CCP code new, and technically, useless bits as far as the core of the game is concerned.

Making the service rather expensive would stop the database polluting with secondary/tertiary names, still allowing actual new owners to give better names to their toons then ones like "BJ Supreme" and "Anal Avenger"

If CCP came out and said "oh yea, we have something in the code already "clickity clickity DONE" then fine. If they said "we have to assign 100 man hours to get this done" then frak that, CCP has better things to do.

TL;DR: no.

Longer version: no.

Eve is a game of decisions and consequences, being able to effectively change your persona is 100% against the spirit of the game.

How many others out there have done the same & wish they used a better name for their character?

I'm also pretty sure that the "Key" field is the Name, as you can't have 2 equal names. So, also this would be a nightmare to develop. And how would you identify people changing name every day in your alliance?.... Bad Idea...

As has been explained ad infinitum on many other threads regarding this request, the name is a unique identifier in both the database and killboards.

To change this would require substantial development time from CCP and from all killboard developers/admins.

This would also break the much loved consequence system which has also been discussed at length within other threads on this very same topic.

Sometimes people get tired of their names and want to change them or they buy that new character off of the bazaar that had all of the skills they wanted but it has the worst name in the universe. Well here is an Idea I had. Provide a name Change Service.

Name Change Service:

-Cost: 1-2 PLEX
--The effort required to adjust this information is worth up to 2 PLEX in my opinion.

-Availability: Once a Year per account.
--Even though you have 3 slots per account only ONE name change is allowed for that account per year.

-ALL information attached to the character persists.
--Employment History
--Contacts and Contact Standings
--Notes saved by other players
--NPC standings
--Portrait

The only thing that changes is the displayed name of the character.


I think that this service could end up being very popular. Not only does it give players the ability to identify with there characters again, or identify with their newly aquired character they bought off of the Bazaar. It is also a new source of income for CCP.

As long as all character information remains through the name changing process and the service is restricted to once per year per account this wont be majorly exploitable by corporate thieves and griefers. Before people start to argue with me on this point; If people wanted to steal/grief they could find much easier ways than renaming their character. An example? Buying a new character, a service which is already provided by every other player.

If anyone has any constructive feedback feel free to post questions/concerns.

Haha, I take it that you would put the same quantity of energy in any of yr future efforts to legalize in real live that every citizen should have the right to buy and obtain a fully new pasport, just on any next street corner?

Some people do not possess any understanding of "helicopter view", so let me explain in short: eve succeeded real great in developing a virtual scifi world(!), but if one allows new pasports (names) in easy standard ways, well, that would give enormeous many problems.

Imagine, you get up one day (real life talking here, for comparing), you go outside and notices that some of the characters (your neighbours, whom you got to know during the last months or years) moved, changed their names, and all of this happened "just overnight"???

Well, such would indeed be a real possibility in some of the still existing Babana-Republics...but better let us not try to change EVE in some Banana Galaxy (i.e: without any oversight at all, people having to invest more of their time "in just fact-findings"???...and I would not even mention the far greater possibilities presented by such for not intended scams etc.

WHATS IN A NAME ANYWAY? (....you now know)

Try asking that from someone who always gets primaried in larger docorine fleets because his name is something like "Aabroman." Or from someone who named their character during trial and didn't thanik that the dumb name would be following them for years.

If I take a break for a few years and then come back to find someone had stolen my name I'd be rather annoyed so no.

One way or another, character names need the option to be changed. And of course, they need to clean the name registar too for any characters on accounts which haven't been active in over a period of time.

Don't have to delete the character, just have them rename for free when they come back online.

as if someone has trespassed on their property and is rummaging in their tool shed in the backyard.... Only thing is, the guy going through the tool shed is the gardener who, not five minutes before, knocked on the door and reported in for work in the backyard, and has permission to use some of the tools in the tool shed...

IGÇÖm just going to leave this here:
http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/RoleRenameMenu.aspx
screenshot

WTF are you on about??????

And why is it that anyone who opposes this is afraid? People don't 'fear' name changes, they just believe that a name change system would be bad for the game and only bring extra complexity that would not make for an enjoyable game experience.

I fully support name changes as long as there is a name history tied to pilot license number, just like there is a corporation history.

Wait. Is that for real? I think i fell for a prank... Everything else is in Chinese, but only that part is in English....

Hmmm..... Yeah. I see your point. Clicking on a toon's Info Sheet, and clicking the A.K.A. tab would be too complex for some players....

I don't know about you, but it's already routine for me to read the info sheet of players near me. I view their security status and look at their "resume' to see what corporations they've worked for.... I do it automatically. So, clicking the A.K.A. tab should prove no problem for me.

However, I can see that it'll be too much of a complex challenge for others to do. I'll have to give more thought on this issue....





This might help, too. You can track someone based on they're pilot license number, no matter what name they chose to change it to... But that would also probably be too complex.....

One way or another, character names need the option to be changed. And of course, they need to clean the name registar too for any characters on accounts which haven't been active in over a period of time.

Don't have to delete the character, just have them rename for free when they come back online.

This there's a character with a name I want, he's over 9 years old and hasn't been active on that character since..