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Melvin Earl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:16:00 -
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There needs to be lots more ISK ability in null systems held by the same alliance the longer they hold it. A lot of fighting and constant harassment has to be dealt with. So more better income is needed during the time of not fighting to balance the time being forced to fight.
Give support to balance the income better. |

Melvin Earl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:18:00 -
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The best idea is NPC ships award a higher payout to the alliance owning system. This would keep increasing a percentage per day. Would also be good reward to keep more space from enemies and encourage communication and diplomacy. |

Melvin Earl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:20:00 -
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Less income for trespassers because the system owners own the system. So when we have to stay in station trespassers less likely to take income.
Sorry this is not my first language. Do support for better income generation. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1529
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Posted - 2013.04.12 02:22:00 -
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--> Features & Ideas Discussion
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:19:00 -
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Melvin Earl wrote:There needs to be lots more ISK ability in null systems held by the same alliance the longer they hold it. A lot of fighting and constant harassment has to be dealt with. So more better income is needed during the time of not fighting to balance the time being forced to fight.
Give support to balance the income better. if you want more income i,n null sec work for it you can already make much more money relative safe in null sec if you want more work for it , farm those animolies , upgrade the system , expand your pi by placing POCO , babysit your moons better etc etc isn't that hard tho I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Stan'din
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:25:00 -
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Faction loot everywhere  Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican. |

Dave Stark
2545
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:41:00 -
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"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3062
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:47:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking.
His grammar could be more gooder, true. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:53:00 -
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So, you already live in the best area of the game, with the best rats, sites and resources, living in the complete safety of the blue donut, making isk hand-over-fist from moon-goo, and you want even more isk?
I'm pretty sure i couldn't disagree more with this thread even if i tried. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:58:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. His grammar could be more gooder, true.
*more betterer.
In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish?
Malcanis for CSM8, Its about damn time.
A vote for Malcanis is a vote for bacon! |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3370
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:58:00 -
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Dude, your emo face.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:33:00 -
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Anunzi wrote:
In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish?
Metallica and Testament lyrics for me. And i am more beterrer than those that learned from Slayer lyrics! i can fail at any speed you like |

pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:56:00 -
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Anunzi wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. His grammar could be more gooder, true. *more betterer. In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish? atleast most of us non english speakers do bother to learn a second or third language and we know we never be perfect in it , that s more than you can say about the language skills of most anglo saxons I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:09:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Anunzi wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. His grammar could be more gooder, true. *more betterer. In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish? atleast most of us non english speakers do bother to learn a second or third language and we know we never be perfect in it , that s more than you can say about the language skills of most anglo saxons
Some reading for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
My comment was not directed at the OP (who stated English is not his first language) but at my TESTbro a few posts above mine.
Please dont jump to conclusions.
Malcanis for CSM8, Its about damn time.
A vote for Malcanis is a vote for bacon! |

Frying Doom
2309
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:09:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Anunzi wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. His grammar could be more gooder, true. *more betterer. In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish? atleast most of us non english speakers do bother to learn a second or third language and we know we never be perfect in it , that s more than you can say about the language skills of most anglo saxons That is just lovely, pick on the Angles and the Saxons.
But yes a lot of the schooling in English speaking countries is not gooder than non-engrish countries.  Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
180
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:11:00 -
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Stan'din wrote:Faction loot everywhere 
Except in Drone Regions 
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:13:00 -
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Anunzi wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. His grammar could be more gooder, true. *more betterer. In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish?
Mine's from Fresh Prince of Bel Air, I swear we watched every episode to the greatest of detail back in the day. It helps if one has affinity for languages as well. |

Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
652
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:15:00 -
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I think you're on to something. Maybe players should be rewarded free isk because of AFK cloakers. Just a thought. Oh god. |

Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
88
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:17:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Anunzi wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Dave Stark wrote:"more bettter" the grammar in this country is shocking. His grammar could be more gooder, true. *more betterer. In sciences name where did you people learn Engrish? Mine's from Fresh Prince of Bel Air, I swear we watched every episode to the greatest of detail back in the day. It helps if one has affinity for languages as well.
Awesome 
One of my ex's actually learned her English from watching the Simpsons!
Malcanis for CSM8, Its about damn time.
A vote for Malcanis is a vote for bacon! |

Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2013.04.12 12:50:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:So, you already live in the best area of the game, with the best rats, sites and resources, living in the complete safety of the blue donut, making isk hand-over-fist from moon-goo, and you want even more isk?
I'm pretty sure i couldn't disagree more with this thread even if i tried.
1. How much money do you think a tech moon makes per month. A rough estimate is enough. 2. How many people do you think can run anomalies non-stop in a fully upgraded -1.00 truesec system? 3. How many ratters/PvE players do you think get caught ratting each day in the supposed safe space? 4. How many man-hours do you think are needed for keeping the space as safe as it is?
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2013.04.12 13:04:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:So, you already live in the best area of the game, with the best rats, sites and resources, living in the complete safety of the blue donut, making isk hand-over-fist from moon-goo, and you want even more isk?
I'm pretty sure i couldn't disagree more with this thread even if i tried. 1. How much money do you think a tech moon makes per month. A rough estimate is enough. 2. How many people do you think can run anomalies non-stop in a fully upgraded -1.00 truesec system? 3. How many ratters/PvE players do you think get caught ratting each day in the supposed safe space? 4. How many man-hours do you think are needed for keeping the space as safe as it is?
Awww shut it allready ....
Last time i was in null i was in syndicate , half of the time not blue to anyone the other half to a handfull of people .I plexed each evening for 1-2 hours and i made a damned good iskaverage with hardly any losses.It's why i allways laugh when i see someone from a big sov holding null alliance complain about risk vs reward.I'm more comfortable flying my faction fit tengu in syndicate then i am flying my charon in sinq .....
So if you're in sov space and still can't make a good amount of isk you've either got WAY too many blues that also farm in the same spot and/or you are too scared to go out of your safety pocket.
On a sidenote nice troll OP ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
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Posted - 2013.04.12 13:10:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote: 1. How much money do you think a tech moon makes per month. A rough estimate is enough...
I know a lot of moons suck.
...but I will take a shot.
Technetium goes 56K. You can pull 200 unit per hour? 11.2M ISK/Hour. 268M/Day 7.5 Billion ISK/Month. per moon.
Am I close?
My understanding is that often the players do not directly get this money. Corp/Alliance funds, but I could be wrong. |

Sentamon
811
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Posted - 2013.04.12 13:28:00 -
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... and here we go again. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
79
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Posted - 2013.04.12 13:32:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:... and here we go again.
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Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
79
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Posted - 2013.04.12 13:35:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: Technetium goes 56K. You can pull 200 unit per hour? 11.2M ISK/Hour. 268M/Day 7.5 Billion ISK/Month. per moon.
Am I close?
That's the gross income, you have to deduct some for POS fuel and costs to bring the stuff to market. And of course not couting in the costs to defend the moon to attacks. That's roughly 200 hours of missioning in highsec. Sure, it's a nice side income to help fund the sov-costs, but it's nothing spectacular that makes an alliance super rich.
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
79
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Posted - 2013.04.12 13:55:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: 7.5 Billion ISK/Month. per moon.
....but it's nothing spectacular that makes an alliance super rich. If you can believe a Goon rep, they believe it does, and they say they warned CCP against the way Moons were implemented.
I am not sure how many of these moons there are... I have seen estimates of 300-500. So 2.2 Trillion ISK per month on the low side to maybe 5 Trillion ISK per month.
Perhaps not making them rich... perhaps it is... but significant wouldn't you say?
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Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics CODE.
79
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:00:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: If you can believe a Goon rep, they believe it does, and they say they warned CCP against the way Moons were implemented.
I am not sure how many of these moons there are... I have seen estimates of 300-500. So 2.2 Trillion ISK per month on the low side to maybe 5 Trillion ISK per month.
Perhaps not making them rich... perhaps it is... but significant wouldn't you say?
Even 5 Trillion ISK per month isn't that much if you break it down to characters in the CFC. Let's say 20k characters, that's just 250 Million per character per month. Every highsec incursion corp makes more per day than that. |

Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:13:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Runeme Shilter wrote: 1. How much money do you think a tech moon makes per month. A rough estimate is enough...
I know a lot of moons suck. ...but I will take a shot. Technetium goes 56K. You can pull 200 unit per hour? 11.2M ISK/Hour. 268M/Day 7.5 Billion ISK/Month. per moon. Am I close? My understanding is that often the players do not directly get this money. Corp/Alliance funds, but I could be wrong.
100/hour, 2400 per day = 134m/day ... little over 4b per 30 days. Less POS fuel, transport, taxes, etc ... so maybe 3-3.5b in profit. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia Malcanis for CSM8 |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
565
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:17:00 -
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Two day old noob corp player suggests massive changes to the game....
In other news.. Fail Troll is Fail.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:41:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: If you can believe a Goon rep, they believe it does, and they say they warned CCP against the way Moons were implemented.
I am not sure how many of these moons there are... I have seen estimates of 300-500. So 2.2 Trillion ISK per month on the low side to maybe 5 Trillion ISK per month.
Perhaps not making them rich... perhaps it is... but significant wouldn't you say?
Even 5 Trillion ISK per month isn't that much if you break it down to characters in the CFC. Let's say 20k characters, that's just 250 Million per character per month. Every highsec incursion corp makes more per day than that.
No no no, how dare you use "facts" and "logic" in the face of other people's unfounded but closely held beliefs. Don't you know that everyone who simply jumps into null sec gets insta-rich because officer spawns appear at the gate to welcome you with rare loot?
Shame on you sir, SHAME.
And right there I hope I busted your sarcasm meter. Death to Sarcasm meters!. |
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