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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.09.20 22:33:00 -
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again you wont spend weeks before you can go back in to empire kthx
 Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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sesanti
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Posted - 2005.09.20 23:20:00 -
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That depends on the time u can play per day. Many people can't play EVE a lot of hours a day but on weekends.
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2005.09.21 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mardonius
Originally by: Ravenge
It's simple if you do the first one, you do the second one.
If you don't want to do the second one, don't do the first one.
If you're going to regurgitate what at least two people have already said you may aswell not post and prevent cluttering the thread.
Also, quite simply, the system in place at the moment isn't "Do do the crime, you do the time". Pirates have to do more than time, they have to gank NPC rats also. Read my earlier posts on why I think this system can be improved,
The classic quote "can't do the time, don't do the crime" is from real life, where if someone decides to be a criminal, sooner or later they get to eat bad food and sleep in a concrete cell with 4 other people with flatulence and a bad attitude. In fact, in most countries, people who act the way EVE pirates do have a very short sentence with a wooden box at the end of it.
If all you had to do was wait, then you could find something else to do with your free time.
The analogy you're implying would only work if, when your character reached -5, CCP sent some gorillas in tuxedos round to chain you to the keyboard. I don't think it will catch on.
Or we could make it more realistic; when you reach -5, your clone is deactivated, and if someone pods you after that then get ready to reroll. What a good idea!
Some of the worst carebear whiners I see here are "pirates".
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sesanti
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Posted - 2005.09.21 01:48:00 -
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It's just this topic of "carebears" vs "pirates" always arises again and again.. and when a "pirate" promotes something that might improve something in their area of play, "carebears" jump around... and viceversa... i have read many threads mocking "carebears" for not going out of high sec. space, by pirates, or anyone who dwell in low sec. space.
But first let's remember that EVE is A GAME. Just that. A computer game. Complex?, Ok, but a game nonetheless. Any comparison or parallel to what happens in RL is OUT OF THE QUESTION. The game needs to be balanced, not be just like real life.
And for balance, there must equality of opportunities for every career choice. And like this is no game like others, there is no powerleveling, classes or exp. levels. U can choose any path u want to take. But there must be the assurance that u can come back from that point (any u choose, including piracy) and be able to do something else without having to be on 24 hours every day during a week dong a repetitive and boring task.
Of course piracy has the effects of lowering the sec. rating and that is of course the way it should be. That helps separate the sections of the game where people, who do not want to risk PVP, can be safe, from the sections where everything is permitted. And whoever goes to those sections, must be aware they can lose everything. And if it happens, well, bad luck! U gambled, and u lost. U didn't want to gamble with a risk, u could have stayed in the areas where there wasn't any risk.
And, when people who dwell in low sec. find something unbalanced, they have the right to ask for a change that may balance things up in their branch of preference. As simple as that. I don't see how a change that would let people increase their sec. rating a bit faster is on detriment of the "carebear" community. U won't be affected in your play by that.
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.09.21 08:52:00 -
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well seeing as i fixed my sec recently ill tell ya how long it takes simply 1 week of ratting a 8/10 complex in 0.0 some 5/10's work to i went back to -10.0 though as i am a pirate and allready know how to handle myself in 0.0 and all this does is change all empire to 0.0 for me more or less
oh and tbh u cant fix something that aint broke maybe u should just adapt and use the new way of doing it if you want to care-pirate
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: sesanti
Edited by: sesanti on 20/09/2005 17:59:24
To all of u who say "Do the crime, serve the time" or whatever, tell me why did u come to EVE for? EVE is not a mining simulation. It's a space simulation.
There plenty of places for mining and producing and trading safely in high sec. space, for all of u who don't want to risk getting killed by pirates.
Tell that to the 23 people who were podded in Oursulaert (0.9, to save you looking it up) day before yesterday by a trigger-happy moron with nothing better to do, and nothing much to lose since his ships were fully insured.
-5 outlaws ought to get no insurance. Period. It might go a little way towards stopping this sort of stupid, pointless abuse of the rules.
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:25:00 -
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OMG OMG.....
Dear CCP, please add a "Repair SEC status" button in station-controlpanel, so that the weebees who wanna kill in lowsec can just repair, then go to yulai to showoff their factionship in 1.0 space.....
Stop whining 
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.09.21 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: MrMorph on 21/09/2005 10:27:43
Originally by: vanBuskirk
Originally by: sesanti
Edited by: sesanti on 20/09/2005 17:59:24
To all of u who say "Do the crime, serve the time" or whatever, tell me why did u come to EVE for? EVE is not a mining simulation. It's a space simulation.
There plenty of places for mining and producing and trading safely in high sec. space, for all of u who don't want to risk getting killed by pirates.
Tell that to the 23 people who were podded in Oursulaert (0.9, to save you looking it up) day before yesterday by a trigger-happy moron with nothing better to do, and nothing much to lose since his ships were fully insured.
-5 outlaws ought to get no insurance. Period. It might go a little way towards stopping this sort of stupid, pointless abuse of the rules.
Agreed, outlaws should get no insurance.
But add the fact that carebears should get 1000% higher insurance-bill per billion they make.
And the fact that if they make more than 2 billion isk, yer ship automatically gets a chance of exploding. (Space terror).
Oh yeah, and the more isk you get, the slower yer mininglasers, and the more armor mission rats should get.
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2005.09.21 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: spRAYed on 21/09/2005 11:18:43
That button is a good idea lol, Y not make an option that pirates with low sec..can buy their sec back at concord?
Make it 50 mill for each 10% they want to gain...this way they'll loose their money they made on pirating/griefing and not have to whine about their sec...
Or if u wanna enter certain systems that are not ment for people with low sec..make them pay a fee to go through that system...the higher the sec..the more it will cost ya.
This way the carebears will also sell the crap they craft and sell in high sec a bit more....
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sesanti
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Posted - 2005.09.21 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: sesanti on 21/09/2005 12:46:48
But i thought that what happened in that 0.9 system was more an exploit than anything else. That thing doesn't happend often and u can't take it on an awful LOT of people who don't abuse rules for what only ONE person does (or 2, in this case, since he worked with someone).
In that case the person should be warned or banned, but that's not within our reach but the GMs. 
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Playah
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Posted - 2005.09.21 16:00:00 -
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Exactly griefers. It's just a game.
And a damn good one. Lucky for us "carebears" CCP put some sort of punishment into the game for children who like to ruin other people's gaming experience by ganking especially n00b players.
I know of a few people, i wont name names becasue nobody knows them anyway, that quit the game because they were ganked with their indys full of valuable stuff with local expanders and head full of +3 implants. They did not represent any threat at all and they were ganked in low security making a jump or two through low sec on a 20j trip and some asshat decided that their indy would make a nice booooom.
So a griefer ruined their day and everything they have worked for months trying to build a decent corp an make a name of themselves in EVE was destroyed by some random act of violence.
so they quit. CCP lost revenue because of that and because of that a few of you griefers should be booted to tech the other a lesson to pick on peeps their own size.
I just CANNOT see where the fun is in gutting a puppy = podding a n00b or a T1 indy.
Fu** that. I wont mind if my main gets fu**ed up. I got it insured and i can afford to lose a few ships now and then. I know i should not be flying/mining (being) in low sec cause sooner or later some griefer is going to try and ruin my day. So i use instas or speeder frig and show my middle finger to anyone who tries to stop me.
All of you horrible standing griefers are pussies cause you dont have balls to go aggro those big alliances that would squish you like a*****roach that you are.
Now stop whining and accept that you ruined a few people's gaming experiences and for that your gaming experience should and must be ruined to some extent. So STFU and take it where you like it the most. ***
P.s Can one of you children explain to me please where the fun is in podding defensless n00bs and other defensles peeps ?
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Playah
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Posted - 2005.09.21 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Nice balanced view there Playah.
We all know blowing up pixels equates to RL murder
You're shooting another persons pixels ;). EVE is not your regular space invaders where you play against a few lines of code. The pixels you shoot in EVE are the pixels someone put some effort to paint infront of you.
P.S. I hope MC continues to *****you and let's see what will you have to say about your pixels being shot at. Taste of your own medicine hehehehehehehehehehehe.
P.s.s. MC is bad peope m'kay. Pirates just like you and i like seeing two eBil corps kill each other.
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sesanti
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Posted - 2005.09.21 16:17:00 -
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If those people were at low sec. when they were killed AND looted, it's their own problem. If they quitted for that is just because an attitude problem. U were in low sec.? Then if you're killed u CANT complain at all, even i u got ransomed for all your ISK and then after paying, got killed with the entirety of your valuables in a cargo hold... whether it was handed down by an honorable pirate, griefers, blobs, gate ganking, or <insert your killing type here>.
As a matter of fact if your podded "n" times in ONE hour in low sec., u can't complain at all. If that bothers u, move out to high sec. systems.
Which brings me to the other point. Suicide chars at high sec. space, in my OWN opinion, is an exploit (i dunno if it considered like that by CCP), and i think that people should be warned or banned and the victim reimbursed for the losses. However i dunno how CCP handles that cases.
But that has NOTHING to do with what this thread was all about in the beginning, which was an improvement for players to be able to go to high space by having their standing increase faster.
It's u who come to this thread to whine about a change that won't affect u at all. Besides, playah, with your previous thread a few pages ago, u say it all about your attitude
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Playah
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Posted - 2005.09.21 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: JoKane
Originally by: Deja Thoris
400k mission rats give 0.8% increases.
Yea I know, I was only takling about the regular npc which I belive Lilan was refering to also.
And Playah, you do realise that its beacuse if ppl like you who drop stupid post like that there is alot of greifers. Nothing can be compared to good smack from a angry miner. But anyways, ranting on the forums is just silly so here¦s a little step by step guide that I think even you can manage to follow that will improve other players forum experince alot.
1. Look at the back of your keybord, there you will see a cord sticking out from it.
2. Follow the cord all the way to the end.
3. Now if you have done step 2 right you should be looking at the back of your computer.
4. Take the cord in any hand you feel comfortable with in a firm grip and pull it straight out of the computer.
Congratulations, you have now successfully unpluged your keybord! I advice you to keep it unpluged in the future to prevent you to make stupid comment and look like a moron.
Another griefer. Cant take a critic. And off he goes grief another n00b. You griefers got your big fat bonus when indys were nerfed so they could not fit a MWD anymore. Now you've had your gift so STFU.
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sesanti
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Posted - 2005.09.21 16:49:00 -
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Are u a main or an alt, playah? As i see it, the only whiner here is you. 
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.09.21 18:02:00 -
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Obviously a alt who is crying emotionaly in real life. Everyone who pirates indy's is a griefer.
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.09.21 19:44:00 -
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O M G U N N E R F P I R A T E S N O W !!
Please  
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Majir Kry
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:06:00 -
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what is there to unnerf? I still get 0.8% from 400k rats in l4 missions
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kinsy on 22/09/2005 10:19:22
Originally by: Shinnen
Cheese & Whine
Jesus H Christ is this thread still going?
DONT WHINE. ADAPT OR QUIT.
You get a 0.08% increase from rats. Getting sec status up is FASTER than before.
If you want to hear some whining ill give you some spool about part time pirate losers who won't go below -5, thereby penalising pirate hunters who will still gank their asses but have to take a hit and some sentry fire.
And sometimes a bounty...Look at the new video 4.06mins in on the bounty window, im the only one showing online with a 70m bounty. Just what you frickin need when your trying to convince a load of locals your there to help them isnt it?
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:22:00 -
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I got several 0.8% raises from doing lvl 4 cosmos missions, that's TWICE of what you got from 750k rats previously. A single mission bumped me from 4.5 to 4.6 in sec. But many of the BS rats were 2.25M bounty ones and such, so that might explain it.
It seems to me that, although the nerfed 750k rats, other rats give out more sec raise than they used to. It should even out.
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Playah
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shinnen
Edited by: Shinnen on 22/09/2005 10:04:51
O M G U N N E R F P I R A T E S N O W !!
Please
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7813/piratesnerf4kl.jpg
That picture pretty much shows it all....
Ive been trying to get my sec stat up for a few weeks now... I lost 2 ships in the process, and gave away a lot of isk to people (out of generosity).
Goddamn whiner. You did the crime now do the time or quit
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Grant Smith
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:37:00 -
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ive gone from -9.3 to -4.65 in about 15 days, solid npcing in all available free time. its got so tiresome now, i just have to think of what im going back to - thats all thats keeping me going now. 
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Grant Smith
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:39:00 -
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and shinnens my buddy, i been pirating with him, he started at -5.9 and is at -4.9, i win him :P (note: i am sadder though, ive spent alot more time in game than him)
<3 to shin
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:43:00 -
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Seems obvious then!
He's almost got enough there for a Blackbird. If he wants a 1-run BPC im sure his pirate friends will be able to get him one. Hell ill give him one if he comes fetches it.
Then get him to help out with your ratting. Long as he shoots, paints or jams what your firing at, he'll get an increase (and some cash of course).
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:47:00 -
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Quote:
You get a 0.08% increase from rats. Getting sec status up is FASTER than before.
No, you used to get a 0.4 inc from 750k rats...
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Playah
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Posted - 2005.09.22 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: sesanti
But that has NOTHING to do with what this thread was all about in the beginning, which was an improvement for players to be able to go to high space by having their standing increase faster.
It's u who come to this thread to whine about a change that won't affect u at all. Besides, playah, with your previous thread a few pages ago, u say it all about your attitude
Yea, let the criminals run loose you say. I see your standpoint.
So if some griefer ruins 20 people's days and get's a horrible standing for that and has to hunt rats for 20 days to get his standing back up is a joke ?!??!?! Wrong?
Getting ganked does not have an upside. Hunting rats to boost your standing does. Yo earn loads of iskies and get faction loot.
Oh wait you cant do that because you're to much of a chicken to go hunt into 0.0. Well boohoohoo for you.
On the other side you're a brave n00b ganker every n00b MUST be afraid of. Besides, there are plenty lvl4 agents in low security. Sitting on your ass camping a low security chokepoint you have enough time to browse through all of them.
Like i said before: I have no sympathy at all for any of you vermin
P.s. Im talking about n00bs who have no idea what to expect in low sec and get ganked for no gain at all. Just the evil grin on the griefers face when he ruins another person's day.
P.s.s. How would you react if someone would pull you out of your pizza delivery vehicle in East L.A. or Bronx or any other american crime infested city and gutted you like a p** that you are. "Hey mister im just minding my own business." ? Or would you go report the crime commited to the police so they would f*** up the parties involved in screwing up your gut? So dont cry here about giving you a free ride in screwing up other people's everyday. And go gank space invaders if you even know what that is. Or Freelancer. Or even better: Take on an alliance. They sure would be glad to see another soon-to-be-podded customer so their PVPers can train a bit and so their guns wont be just ollecting dust in hangars ;)
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.09.22 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Playah
P.s.s. How would you react if someone would pull you out of your pizza delivery vehicle in East L.A. or Bronx or any other american crime infested city and gutted you like a p** that you are. "Hey mister im just minding my own business." ? Or would you go report the crime commited to the police so they would f*** up the parties involved in screwing up your gut? So dont cry here about giving you a free ride in screwing up other people's everyday. And go gank space invaders if you even know what that is. Or Freelancer. Or even better: Take on an alliance. They sure would be glad to see another soon-to-be-podded customer so their PVPers can train a bit and so their guns wont be just ollecting dust in hangars ;)
You have a serious problem... IT's A GAME!!!! not real life, dont compare the game situation like the real aforementioned situation.
The game is supposed to have elements of "fun" but it's lost it cos i cant do what i consider fun anymore...
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Scrofalitic One
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Posted - 2005.09.22 11:12:00 -
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Good lordy-lord, I'm not a pirate at all, just a stadard mission running ratter type, but even I am dtempted to laod up with scrammers & jammers and go hunting Playah...
I respect that you have an opinion, I just think that it's appalling the way you present it.
I'm sure that if anyone jumped into a thread about miners or mission runners asking for advice from their peers on how to circumvent a problem and flaming them all for being "Stooopid carebear lewzesrsz!1!!!" would get told to shut up.
You have to see what you are doing is exactly the same.
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.09.22 11:16:00 -
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@Scrofalitic One:
Who's that to?
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Shafty
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Posted - 2005.09.22 11:29:00 -
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TBH nothing needs fixing here. Yes im gonna quote the old "If you cant do the crime etc.etc")
Surely you knew when you podded that you would be outlaw? And before anyone says "Carebear, you dont know what you are talking about" im currently -6.8 back from -10.
It doesnt take too long and in all honesty anyone who doesnt have another means of income or who isnt stinking rich already should stay away from piracy if they are worried about seeing Yulai again. If you were such a Badass get to 0.0 and start NPCing sec soon goes up.
Wonder how long this thread will run for.
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