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Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:03:00 -
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There isn't enough risk for stupid griefer pirates camping gates in these low-sec shitholes I have to pass through on occasion. Even small ships can tank the damage - some huge tank isn't required.
Buff the stupid sentry guns. There shouldn't be zero risk and 100% reward for these idiots. It's dumb.
That is all. |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
895
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:06:00 -
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I seem to remember reading something a while ago about CCP potentially making sentry guns spool up to progressively higher and higher damage.
I wouldn't mind seeing higher DPS and maybe a 30 second scrambler-beam on outlaw aggression. Just something to stop gates being camped by things like single T3s sporting 200,000 EHP, skirmish gang links that can easily de-aggress if they bite of more than they can chew.
If you walk into a large camp and get killed, so be it, but yes, for anything bigger than a cruiser, the gate guns are pretty ineffective. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3959
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:19:00 -
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Lost a ship eh? 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
376
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:33:00 -
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Yeah whatever happened to that awesome scaling damage idea for gate-guns?
I thought it was the best idea since sliced bread. 
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
174
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:34:00 -
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Maybe you should organise a campbreak and not be bothererd by it, or fly a cloaky hauler. teamplay is the name of the game peeps! And jack daniels.
gulp!
proost. |
Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:55:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:If you walk into a large camp and get killed, so be it, but yes, for anything bigger than a cruiser, the gate guns are pretty ineffective.
I just checked. It was 3 CRUISERS. No other ships involved. No 'anything bigger than a cruiser.' No 'large gate camp.'
3 cruisers can instagank an industrial and get off scott free in a 0.4sec covered in sentry guns. Good job CCP. |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
Hopeless Addiction
1174
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:56:00 -
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You shouldn't be able to post if you lost a ship within 30 minutes
DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
Hopeless Addiction
1174
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Posted - 2013.04.17 23:58:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:If you walk into a large camp and get killed, so be it, but yes, for anything bigger than a cruiser, the gate guns are pretty ineffective. I just checked. It was 3 CRUISERS. No other ships involved. No 'anything bigger than a cruiser.' No 'large gate camp.' 3 cruisers can instagank an industrial and get off scott free in a 0.4sec covered in sentry guns. Good job CCP.
1. One of those crusiers was a logi or they killed you quick enough to not die from the guns (Which in a crusier would be plenty of time).
2. You were flying one of the slowest ships in the game
3. There's no reason to fly through low sec in an Industrial (Unless its a Blockade Runner) unless you live in a high sec island surrounded by low, in which case move.
DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3148
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Posted - 2013.04.18 00:16:00 -
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Show us on the ship doll where those naughty low-sec piwates touched you.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Sentamon
826
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Posted - 2013.04.18 00:19:00 -
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Calling gate campers pirates is an insult to all real pirates out there.
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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2013.04.18 00:24:00 -
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EVE is the last bastion of the stupid pvper. Mindless and skilless activities with essentially zero risk are rewarded. The tears would certainly flow if sentry guns were buffed but it is needed for this game to be less of a joke amongst the pvp gamer community.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose."
-Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13620
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Posted - 2013.04.18 00:41:00 -
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Nah. In fact, the recent nerf to the effectiveness of sentry guns was pretty good. More of the kind is needed.
Sentries, like CONCORD, aren't there to protect you GÇö they're there to shift the balance of player action. In low, they mean the non-aggressor side has roughly one more ship on their side. If the aggressors can compensate for this, then good on them.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
The Methodical Alliance
95
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:07:00 -
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Harden up. You lost a ship and you are emotionally posting a rage thread. It happens, but there is no need for this. |
Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sentries, like CONCORD, aren't there to protect you
While I'm not entirely sure I agree, the point I made was that the risk/reward for this kind of activity seriously needs to be adjusted. |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
24
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:51:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Tippia wrote:Sentries, like CONCORD, aren't there to protect you While I'm not entirely sure I agree, the point I made was that the risk/reward for this kind of activity seriously needs to be adjusted.
I agree. We should change this game asap so you can fly your untanked industrial anywhere. This is an outrage!  |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13620
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:57:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:
While I'm not entirely sure I agree, the point I made was that the risk/reward for this kind of activity seriously needs to be adjusted.
Ok. Here's how you do that: don't go up against three combat ships with a transport.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Frying Doom
2358
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:05:00 -
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We could make the whole system a lot fairer.
Just make all sentry guns insta kill anyone that comes within 200 km of them.
so this way it effects everyone exactly the same.
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And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
Ok. Here's how you do that: don't go up against three combat ships with a transport.
Oh, because that's the decision I made, right? To go up against 3 combat ships in a transport?
Begone troll. |
Unit757
D-I-L-L-I-G-A-F
Double Tap.
38
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:52:00 -
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You jumped into low-sec, unscouted, in an industrial. You damn well made the choice ;) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13620
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:54:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:Oh, because that's the decision I made, right? According to this quote:
GÇ£3 cruisers can instagank an industrialGÇ¥
GǪpretty much, yes. Scouts and/or support works wonders for keeping industrials alive in lowsec, and with sentries backing you up, that indy doesn't even really count as a missing ship.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7548
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:02:00 -
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It was two cruisers and a T3 and you jumped an Iteron V unscouted into Egghelende (which is almost always camped)
Write it off and be glad you didn't lose anything valuable
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Malcanis for CSM 8 |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6692
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:04:00 -
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I agree, Gate Guns definitely need a serious buff by CCP.
Gate guns are supposed to be deadly. Right now they are nothing more than just a minor annoyance.
DMC |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7548
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:04:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I agree, Gate Guns definitely need a serious buff by CCP.
Gate guns are supposed to be deadly. Right now they are nothing more than just a minor annoyance.
DMC
No they don't, lowsec is supposed to be lowsec, not highsec.
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7548
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:06:00 -
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Man the **** up and stop demanding that NPC entities fight your battles while you're AFK, goddamn
This is an MMO and you're blindly venturing into a zone that has drastically reduced penalties for aggression while in a poorly equipped ship, so stop crying because your dumb choices have consequences
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13620
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:08:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Gate guns are supposed to be deadly. Right now they are nothing more than just a minor annoyance. Not really, no. They're meant to be an annoyance GÇö something you don't want against you in a fight, and they do just that.
They remove the use of fast tacklers, drones, and unsupported ships, forcing a bit of co-ordination on the part of the aggressor. Nothing more is really needed, and each of these added requirements also means an additional point of weakness that can be exploited by people trying to get past the camp.
If none of that works, then hey, it's lowsec GÇö if a gate is camped, just blow it up or bypass it. It's not rocket surgery.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Xain deSleena
Sugar Reef
7
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:12:00 -
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Deep down you all know something is wrong with how Sentry Guns work in low sec. Before the recent changes Sentry Guns would shoot pilots with security status <= -0.5. Now the Sentry Guns only shoot if you engage in illegal activity against a pilot and only while the pilot is in the range of the Guns. Once the aggressing pilot warps off they are free to come back and attack the pilot due to a 'limited engagement' timer of 5 minutes? Pirates are free to roam in low sec and have very minimal consequences for their actions. It is almost impossible to get past a T3 boosted instalocking LOKI on a gate in low sec. There is no skill on the part of the LOKI pilot and there is no ship that can get past these type of gate camps other than a fast frigate or cloaky. EVE is for the solo players too they have to start somewhere. Rancer is 100 times worse now than it has ever been and how I loathe the inhabitants of that system  |
Beast of Revelations
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:12:00 -
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Quote:Scouts and/or support works wonders for keeping industrials alive in lowsec
Not everyone has the luxury of support. Not everyone has the luxury of a massive corporation or alliance to help them play the game. No, some people have to do everything on their own, by themselves.
More news at 11.
Andski wrote:It was two cruisers and a T3 and you jumped an Iteron V unscouted into Egghelende (which is almost always camped)
Write it off and be glad you didn't lose anything valuable
You could try learning from this because it's what, the fourth Iteron 5 you've lost in Egghelende?
It was a bestower (I am amarr, I don't have iteron skills), and it wasn't anywhere near Egghelende. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7548
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:13:00 -
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I mean goddamn CCP is already nerfing RSBs (and, subsequently, instalocking camps) under the guise of "removing something that's too easy for our liking"
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
The Methodical Alliance
95
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:16:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:
Not everyone has the luxury of support. Not everyone has the luxury of a massive corporation or alliance to help them play the game. No, some people have to do everything on their own, by themselves.
More news at 11.
Then those people should learn to play with others. I run mostly solo too because of my real life situation, but I still get help when I need it. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7549
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:19:00 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:It was a bestower (I am amarr, I don't have iteron skills), and it wasn't anywhere near Egghelende.
So you got popped in Tannolen by a Zealot, a Devoter and a Rapier, while carrying a load of PI stuff
Protip these aren't "just cruisers"
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