I was always under the impression that you had to have a somewhat serious commitment in personnel and firepower (tankpower) to go against sentry guns. I was always under the impression that this was essentially tanked battleships. I have read this and been told this on numerous occasions.

I would have been fine with dying if I'd seen a serious gatecamp with battleships and the whole 9 yards, because I don't expect to be able to survive that, and I don't expect sentry guns to be a big deterrent in that situation. But I'm not fine dying to a couple of jackoffs camping a gate in a couple of cruisers while being shot at by sentry guns, and the guns doing nothing to them.

I just checked. It was 3 CRUISERS. No other ships involved. No 'anything bigger than a cruiser.' No 'large gate camp.'

3 cruisers can instagank an industrial and get off scott free in a 0.4sec covered in sentry guns. Good job CCP.

You lowsec guys moan about how people never leave highsec, whilst simultaneously defending your position on mercilessly owning them in gatecamps. Don't you realise this is the exact reason why lowsec is a wasteland? You are yourselves the cause of the problem. No wonder people have learned not to leave highsec, when you can just sit on a gate while they single file through to their doom. The risks of lowsec don't match the rewards. Not even slightly.

The whole point is to reinvigorate lowsec, make it an area in which highsec players are willing to risk traveling there to benifit increased reward for increased risk. Buffing gateguns gives them the possibility of getting a foot in the door of lowsec. This in turn, leads to more targets for pirates. The ONLY difference being, you won't be sitting there hitting your easy-mode button, but rather having to scan and hunt them down in system. You add a buff to lowsec resources, and now we're talking!

Of course, you all have a massive issue with this. I mean, why would you want to make EvE better if it effects your niche, right? Better to be selfish and maintain your L33T camps and moan about how highsec players are such carebears to not want to come and make pretty fireworks while you eat popcorn.

Buffing gateguns gives them the possibility of getting a foot in the door of lowsec. This in turn, leads to more targets for pirates.

As to just going and playing another game - yeah, I might very well do that. And if enough others decide the same, enjoy shooting asteroids or air or whatever.

As to just going and playing another game - yeah, I might very well do that. And if enough others decide the same, enjoy shooting asteroids or air or whatever.

I hope that you understand why you received such a dismissive response from the community as a result.

Get over yourself.

Let me take a wild guess. The griefers who infest these low-sec shitholes are the same posters on this thread telling me sentry guns are fine, and that sentry guns were never meant to do much beyond tickle gate campers.

As to the second point, that's a damn lie because it has already been stated that CCP nerfed sentry guns to some sort of "ramp up" mechanic. So they apparently WERE meant to do more at some point.

As to just going and playing another game - yeah, I might very well do that. And if enough others decide the same, enjoy shooting asteroids or air or whatever.

Not everyone has the luxury of support. Not everyone has the luxury of a massive corporation or alliance to help them play the game. No, some people have to do everything on their own, by themselves.

Quit with the narcissism and hallucinations of grandeur. You don't represent any 'community.' You represent a handful of griefers who infest low-sec ratholes and who want to preserve game mechanics that benefit their asinine playstyle. Get over yourself.

You shouldn't be able to post if you lost a ship within 30 minutes

You lowsec guys moan about how people never leave highsec, whilst simultaneously defending your position on mercilessly owning them in gatecamps. Don't you realise this is the exact reason why lowsec is a wasteland? You are yourselves the cause of the problem. No wonder people have learned not to leave highsec, when you can just sit on a gate while they single file through to their doom. The risks of lowsec don't match the rewards. Not even slightly.

The whole point is to reinvigorate lowsec, make it an area in which highsec players are willing to risk traveling there to benifit increased reward for increased risk. Buffing gateguns gives them the possibility of getting a foot in the door of lowsec. This in turn, leads to more targets for pirates. The ONLY difference being, you won't be sitting there hitting your easy-mode button, but rather having to scan and hunt them down in system. You add a buff to lowsec resources, and now we're talking!

Of course, you all have a massive issue with this. I mean, why would you want to make EvE better if it effects your niche, right? Better to be selfish and maintain your L33T camps and moan about how highsec players are such carebears to not want to come and make pretty fireworks while you eat popcorn.

Quit with the narcissism and hallucinations of grandeur. You don't represent any 'community.' You represent a handful of griefers who infest low-sec ratholes and who want to preserve game mechanics that benefit their asinine playstyle. Get over yourself.

There isn't enough risk for stupid griefer pirates camping gates in these low-sec shitholes I have to pass through on occasion. Even small ships can tank the damage - some huge tank isn't required.

Buff the stupid sentry guns. There shouldn't be zero risk and 100% reward for these idiots. It's dumb.

That is all.

Quit with the narcissism and hallucinations of grandeur. You don't represent any 'community.' You represent a handful of griefers who infest low-sec ratholes and who want to preserve game mechanics that benefit their asinine playstyle. Get over yourself.

I still want to know why the OP was flying a t1 industrial through low-sec

I fly T1 Industrials through lowsec... not enough skill points for anything else. I send a scout ahead and the T1 follows... I haven't been caught yet, but I will.

You use the tools you have.

Getting caught by a gatecamp in this game is completely optional. Dont choose to get caught.

I fly T1 Industrials through lowsec... not enough skill points for anything else. I send a scout ahead and the T1 follows... I haven't been caught yet, but I will.

You use the tools you have.

But the real question is, when the inevitable happens, will you deal with it and move on, or come to the forums and whine like a 12 year old for CCP to change games mechanics like the op??

I fly T1 Industrials through lowsec... not enough skill points for anything else. I send a scout ahead and the T1 follows... I haven't been caught yet, but I will.

You use the tools you have.

There isn't enough risk for stupid griefer pirates camping gates in these low-sec shitholes I have to pass through on occasion. Even small ships can tank the damage - some huge tank isn't required.

Buff the stupid sentry guns. There shouldn't be zero risk and 100% reward for these idiots. It's dumb.

That is all.

I already lost one a T1 in 0.0, plus a frigate I used as a fast courier in lowsec., and two pods in lowsec.

I think some game mechanics do need adjustment, but my losses were my mistakes.