Possible nerf to ice fields in Odyssey... folks anticipating/speculating on some sort of news during Fanfest.... good times

Isotopes and high end minerals, particularly Zydrine, also showing some run-up.

We had been investing trillions over the past month. The ping finally went out to the zerg a few hours ago. The results are as usual.

There goes that large Amarr POS tower I wanted.

You can still buy it and anchor it .... just don't fuel it ?

So you're investing basing on the assumption that bots don't know how to explore?

How do you bot exploration? You don't ya need a non bot to explor 1st.

Someone needs better google skills.There are bots used for exploration its just a matter of tweaking for them to adjust to the new ice mining.

as it is its best to sell prior patch because when it hits we're gonna see massive dump.When people realise scaning ice in hisec is baby job it will be too late.

If ice belts have to be scanned, then they must deplete.

it wouldn't make sense if something have to be scanned, but once found, they stay forever.

So much for the speculation.Read the blog.Not only belts will not be hard to find ccp stated the average size will be 20% less than what we have now so my guess is accurate.Normal ice roid will be around 40-70k in size.

According to CCP Devblog: "We at CCP want ice harvesting to be a lucrative activity that encourages players to relocate and compete for a piece of the pie."

"New Eden currently enjoys a massive oversupply of ice, which stifles competition and emergent gameplay with the notable exception of a few specific organized ice interdictions performed by some very ambitious players."


No Matter which way you spin it. More Lucrative Activity + Relocate + Compete + Decreased Supply = Higher price of Ice.

So much for the speculation.Read the blog.Not only belts will not be hard to find ccp stated the average size will be 20% less than what we have now so my guess is accurate.Normal ice roid will be around 40-70k in size.

Scanning is made easier, ice-belt in high sec will be removed,
but the new Gravimetric (Ore) sites will contain enough ice for the high-sec markets.
(New Ice Belt names: Blue Ice Belt, White Glaze Belt, Smooth Glacial Mass Belt)

So what if these chances are made to make it "harder" to use ice bots.
The prices to ice products will only be affected a little bit.

I'll ride with the first speculation wave, and then sell it fast.

This is a little deceptive. Static (permanent) ice fields in highsec, are being replaced with gravimetric ice belts in highsec, that will deplete and respawn.

As for botting, it will all come down to whether or not the ice belts stay in the current ice systems, or move system to system. If they remain in the current system, the bots will only need a slight adjustment to their script, and will experience little to no change in efficiency.

So, thoughts on how nuts it has gotten over the last five hours?

Can't wait for all the "I bought the fuel for cheap so I'm making a profit on this POS" people

I actually knew about it from the beginning. My main actually suggested it to The Mittani.

I'm simply avoiding exploiting it out of a sense of fair play . . .

Can't wait for all the "I bought the fuel for cheap so I'm making a profit on this POS" people

This reminds me a lot of the pi speculation before patch, everyone stocked so much that when the patch hit for more than an year and even now some stuff is not profitable to build.The same could happen with ice seeing how prices on fuel, ice and isotopes have fallen down like a rock just few days after the hype.

Personally I think Ice miners will be forced to move to lowsec gravi sites or nullsec to keep Ice production volumes at current level.

what gave you that idea, was it fozzy saying that the new ice anoms will only produce 80% of current demand?