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Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:32:00 -
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Lusinara wrote:[quote=Cannibal Kane]
"I'm such a **** I was killing hi-sec people I didn't even know just for the sake of killing them!"
Got it, thanks.
You got it Tiger...
Never be ashamed of what you do... Just be ashamed if you don't what is in your nature.
The Crazy South African.
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Lusinara
Unshackled Mineral Management Tribe
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 05:55:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Lusinara wrote:[quote=Cannibal Kane]
"I'm such a **** I was killing hi-sec people I didn't even know just for the sake of killing them!"
Got it, thanks.
You got it Tiger... Never be ashamed of what you do... Just be ashamed if you don't do what is in your nature.
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****** should have been ashamed....
(Editing since they bleeped out the above... seriously CCP?)
The dictator in charge of Germany during the Third Reich, and the period of World War II, who invaded Poland, killed many many jewish people, african americans, and homosexuals in the name of the preservation of the "master race" as he called it, who was sometimes called the "Fuhrer".
Godwin has spoken.. the argument is over. |
Lusinara
Unshackled Mineral Management Tribe
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 06:01:00 -
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In fact.. let's postpone our argument of what a nice fella you are or whether you should be ashamed for being an ass or not and just look at that....
CCP has no real rules against harrassment as long as your character is a month old, even though the federal law of MANY countries has laws against harrassment online that INCLUDES singling someone out in an online video game. Most gaming companies are at least smart enough to parrot those laws as their own harrassment policy to avoid any potential legal issues within their game.
They have no rules defining what "griefing" is.. using the lore of a game and in-game excuses to permit people to grief each other as humans vs. other humans in a COMPLETELY out of game context. In other words... I could find out you were gay in real life, hate you for it, and spend the next 5 years of gameplay doing nothing but harrassing you in game because I do not like what you are out of game, making it a clear griefing issue (which would be protected by the laws I mentioned earlier)
No no... all of this is fine... all of this is okay.
But we cannot say Adolf's last name. (In case we can't say his first name... it sounds like "Adolph".. oh and the last name starts with "hit" and ends with "ler".
No no... that's unacceptable. |
Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
87
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Posted - 2011.12.01 06:27:00 -
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I don't care what you are in real life... ingame your a potential target.
That is all.
If you attach any other connotations to it, be it from outside the game. I would suggest you seek help.
and pause for effect....
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The Crazy South African.
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Tragic Nathaniel
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:55:00 -
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Hello Cannibal Kane,
Thanks for declaring war on the first player owned corporation I joined. I soon realized that my care bear ass needed to stay in a NPC corporation. The path I have taken in the universe can be directly contributed to your actions and it was for the best. |
Ahrieman
Heretic Army
1
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Posted - 2011.12.01 08:41:00 -
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Tragic Nathaniel wrote:Hello Cannibal Kane,
Thanks for declaring war on the first player owned corporation I joined. I soon realized that my care bear ass needed to stay in a NPC corporation. The path I have taken in the universe can be directly contributed to your actions and it was for the best.
Damn Kane, You Scary! |
Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
87
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Posted - 2011.12.01 08:43:00 -
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Tragic Nathaniel wrote:Hello Cannibal Kane,
Thanks for declaring war on the first player owned corporation I joined. I soon realized that my care bear ass needed to stay in a NPC corporation. The path I have taken in the universe can be directly contributed to your actions and it was for the best.
That brings back memories... being outnumbered 20 to 1. Your 2005 players did put up a valiant effort though, you deserved atleast one kill in that war but got none. Don't regress though... joining a proper corp will make a vast difference.
The Crazy South African.
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Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
87
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Posted - 2011.12.01 08:45:00 -
[98] - Quote
Ahrieman wrote:Tragic Nathaniel wrote:Hello Cannibal Kane,
Thanks for declaring war on the first player owned corporation I joined. I soon realized that my care bear ass needed to stay in a NPC corporation. The path I have taken in the universe can be directly contributed to your actions and it was for the best. Damn Kane, You Scary!
Wha? You guys make me look like the candy man....
The Crazy South African.
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Tylerskji
Alans Crackbah
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:30:00 -
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As a player constantly under bombardment from greifers and players who think they can crowbar my corp into thier alliances because we can't defend ourselves, I whole heartedly support this! I do whatever I need to do, to allow my corp to survive, end of story!
GOOD WORK ZERG! |
Soon Shin
Abyssal Heavy Industries
Narwhals Ate My Duck
22
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:15:00 -
[100] - Quote
Just as people are free to war dec another, people are free to avoid it.
If you can't shoot someone who doesn't want to fight, well tough ****. |
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Justin Credulent
Perkone
Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:58:00 -
[101] - Quote
if you want PvP you have options:
lo-sec
null-sec
faction warfare
mutual 1on1 (cans)
red vs blue
wormholes
if you want money you have options:
mining
industry
exploration
missions
plex
lotteries
buddy invites
selling characters
someone is currently bullying my corp, wardecing us and demanding isk (we're just a group of friends, only 5 of us, and all 4 months old or so).
there's about 20 people all 6 - 18 months old attacking us demanding tithings and taxes and blowing us up if we dont comply.
do we use a dec shield alliance? you bet we do. and we will continue to use it even after ccp deems it an exploit and bans us for it.
why?
because we shouldn't have to pay other players xx millions of isk per week to play the game we've already paid for with cash.
because we shouldn't be forced to pvp forever
because we shouldn't be prevented from playing the game we've paid for by other people
because we shouldn't have to disband our corporation (we're friends and if we can't play together conveniently we'll leave the game sorry ccp nothing personal just economics there...)
because ccp should support their players - but they don't.
so yes we will use a dec shield until:
ccp fixes the mechanics
ccp bans us for it, in which case we'll move to another game adios
Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships! |
Xolve
Insomniacs.
79
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Posted - 2011.12.04 16:15:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:The finer points of acting like a little whiny *****.
You do realize that high sec wars can be almost completely mitigated right? Without joining an alliance, or dropping your corp, and you can skip the entire e-bullying crap too.
Theres sooo many ways to go about getting around a war..
 Fly something fast if your traveling.. A nano'd interceptor (with warp speed rig) for travel is pretty much not catchable. Even a cloaky T3 (because those are fun to catch in Empire and just as Hard in Null/Low).
If you really wanted to drive them crazy, get your friends to fit out cheap Merlins with NanoFibers, and Polycarb Rigs to zip around from gate to gate- this really annoys the snot out of any group of would be aggressors.
You could move out to some remote pocket of space for a week, just get a trusted corp member to use an alt to Freighter the essentials out there (or Red Frog who are amazing for this). Live in the middle of nowhere for a few days, and if they find you, rinse, repeat. (Derelik anyone?)
Theres even a few High Sec pockets that are 3 or 4 systems completely surrounded by lowsec (Avada, Ronne, Eldulf; just some examples). Most griefer corps are full of people that prey on the weak, and will avoid low-sec like the plague. Hell if your corp bases out of there anyway, your chances of even being noticed by these people is pretty damn small (plus- they'd have to get by whatever pirates live in those areas anywhere, before they can get to you).
Or you could stay in one system, make tons of bookmarks with an alt, distribute them to your corp, and go back to business as usual, just stay aligned in missions/belts/wherever... Just make sure you have a bookmark at your station so you land on top of it, and can dock immediately (and have a group of instant undocking bookmarks in random intervals for 2000km from the station).
Any of these simple things can make a war more bother then its worth, even the dedicated will get bored after a few days, just play defensively, be prepared, and know when to run away. The only difference between most griefers and most carebears is a basic knowledge of game mechanics; so instead of joining dec shield; why not have fun, and learn to be a better pilot?
The entire point of this game is to have fun, with friends or by yourself. If your new to pvp and have limited knowledge fit out a couple rifters, mash some buttons, get some adrenaline pumping, and have fun... all for 2-4m ISK per explosion. God forbid you might figure out some good squad tactics, forcibly run off your opponents and suddenly enjoy occasional PvP.
Lady Spank for C&P Moderator. |
Lusinara
Unshackled Mineral Management Tribe
3
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Posted - 2011.12.04 19:25:00 -
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For all the people who think we should have fun being forced to play PVP...
How about you are forced to do nothing but mine for a week.
Or forced to do nothing but PI for a week.
Or forced to do nothing but (insert whatever you DONT pay to play the game to do) for a week.
Your arguments are assinine because you ignore the one simple fact....
No matter what we could do... it's not an option... we are being forced to change our fun into what these guys think is fun. Forced to play a game their way. When we pay to play it too.. |
Cardval Simalia
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 19:56:00 -
[104] - Quote
When my mains greif corp got war dec'd by mercs who were hired to kill us for using shady agro timer tactics against a noob mission running corp which we had allready dec'd we used dec shield to remove the unwanted war dec. Cheers keep this great service up, unwanted wars are a pain in the arse I want to engage my targets when i choose not them. We just re dec'd our targets again after. |
Xolve
Insomniacs.
81
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Posted - 2011.12.04 20:25:00 -
[105] - Quote
Lusinara wrote:For all the people who think we should have fun being forced to play PVP...
How about you are forced to do nothing but mine for a week.
Or forced to do nothing but PI for a week.
Or forced to do nothing but (insert whatever you DONT pay to play the game to do) for a week.
Your arguments are assinine because you ignore the one simple fact....
No matter what we could do... it's not an option... we are being forced to change our fun into what these guys think is fun. Forced to play a game their way. When we pay to play it too..
Your playing a game, almost entirely built around PvP and don't want to listen to any alternative other then 'join alliance. drop alliance. no more wardec'. So essentially what your preaching is instead of becoming a better player/pilot and building strength in teamwork within your organization; your just not going to play for a day because someone war dec'd you?
If your in a corporation, and you get war-dec'd and things start to fall apart FIND A BETTER CORP.
Lady Spank for C&P Moderator. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
436
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Posted - 2011.12.04 21:37:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:blub blub blub QQ waaaaaa muuuuuuummmmyyyyyyy
If you don't want PVP, leave the game.
Simple as that.
Claiming CCP should listen to the members who joined a PVP game and then complain there is PVP in it would require CCP being ********. They would also lose all the members who are actually out there playing the game as an MMO, and keep you insular solo mission running carebears, who have never done anything worth mentioning, ever. Oh look you saved the Damsel for the 800th time? Post it on EN24.
I KNOW WHAT. Great plan for you. Why don't you book a holiday to the arctic and then complain it's too cold?
**** off and play X3. Alt-tab to Skype if you really need to do this with friends.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Justin Credulent
Perkone
Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:46:00 -
[107] - Quote
You do realize that high sec wars can be almost completely mitigated right? Without joining an alliance, or dropping your corp, and you can skip the entire e-bullying crap too.
let's see if you actually had any useful ideas:
Fly something fast if your traveling.. A nano'd interceptor (with warp speed rig) for travel is pretty much not catchable. Even a cloaky T3 (because those are fun to catch in Empire and just as Hard in Null/Low).
uh yeah... and? can i run missions in that ship? can i mine in that ship? can i do exploration in that ship? no?
If you really wanted to drive them crazy, get your friends to fit out cheap Merlins with NanoFibers, and Polycarb Rigs to zip around from gate to gate- this really annoys the snot out of any group of would be aggressors.
what if my friends dont want to?
You could move out to some remote pocket of space for a week, just get a trusted corp member to use an alt to Freighter the essentials out there (or Red Frog who are amazing for this). Live in the middle of nowhere for a few days, and if they find you, rinse, repeat. (Derelik anyone?)
do you know what "locator agents" are?
Theres even a few High Sec pockets that are 3 or 4 systems completely surrounded by lowsec (Avada, Ronne, Eldulf; just some examples). Most griefer corps are full of people that prey on the weak, and will avoid low-sec like the plague. Hell if your corp bases out of there anyway, your chances of even being noticed by these people is pretty damn small (plus- they'd have to get by whatever pirates live in those areas anywhere, before they can get to you).
yeah, and i'd have to get by those pirates, too. no thanks - this idea basically forces me through lo-sec.
Or you could stay in one system, make tons of bookmarks with an alt, distribute them to your corp, and go back to business as usual, just stay aligned in missions/belts/wherever... Just make sure you have a bookmark at your station so you land on top of it, and can dock immediately (and have a group of instant undocking bookmarks in random intervals for 2000km from the station).
this lets us play for a few scant hours before the griefers log in, and then it's pretty much sit in station all day being lol'd at.
Any of these simple things can make a war more bother then its worth, even the dedicated will get bored after a few days, just play defensively, be prepared, and know when to run away. The only difference between most griefers and most carebears is a basic knowledge of game mechanics; so instead of joining dec shield; why not have fun, and learn to be a better pilot?
oh yeah? my corp has been dec'd for 2 months by a griefercorp who haven't even scored a single kill on us. but there they are, day after day, on their mains and alts in tengus and jaguars sitting outside station every time any of us log in.
gee, guess you didn't have any good ideas after all.
Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships! |
Justin Credulent
Perkone
Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:51:00 -
[108] - Quote
Your playing a game, almost entirely built around PvP
says who? don't see that written anywhere. did ccp say it? funny im looking on this chart "what to do in eve" and only about 10-15% of it seems to be pvp...
find me some official statement from the developers that this is "primarily a pvp game".
So essentially what your preaching is instead of becoming a better player/pilot and building strength in teamwork within your organization; your just not going to play for a day because someone war dec'd you?
you mean becoming better at something i dont want to do? what, you mean undock in my rifter and get blown up, rinse and repeat ad nauseum? hey, you tell me that a rifter can blow up a tengu, that its actually possible, and ill get to work on it right now figuring out how.
If your in a corporation, and you get war-dec'd and things start to fall apart FIND A BETTER CORP.
as mentioned before, we're a small time corp of 5 rl friends. we dont have to disband and we wont disband.
Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships! |
Justin Credulent
Perkone
Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:54:00 -
[109] - Quote
If you don't want PVP, leave the game.
nope.
Simple as that.
says you? pfffffft.
Claiming CCP should listen to the members who joined a PVP game and then complain there is PVP in it would require CCP being ********.
where is it official stated or advertised that eve is a "pvp game"? last i checked there was way more to do in eve than pvp.... find me some official statements from ccp please...
Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships! |
Justin Credulent
Perkone
Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:58:00 -
[110] - Quote
basically all the anger in this thread boils down to 1 thing:
bullies mad they can't bully anymore.
Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships! |
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Xolve
Insomniacs.
83
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Posted - 2011.12.05 07:24:00 -
[111] - Quote
Justin Credulent wrote:basically all the anger in this thread boils down to 1 thing:
I'm a whiny ***** and need to HTFU..
Fixed Your Post Bro-sef.
Seriously, grow a set, join an alliance, go shoot at people... maybe one day you will actually experience 'playing EvE'.
Serious question mode: Whats the point of mining, exploration, mission running and industry if in your perfect no violence internet spaceship world, no ships ever get destroyed?
You make money off these things because **** explodes. Back to your meager carebear ***** prattle.
Lady Spank for C&P Moderator. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
437
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:43:00 -
[112] - Quote
Justin Credulent wrote:where is it official stated or advertised that eve is a "pvp game"? last i checked there was way more to do in eve than pvp.... find me some official statements from ccp please...
On the main Page.
On the "about" page
On the "frequently asked questions" page
On all the marketing they've ever done
In all the media about Eve
In the tutorial
If you want to hear dev quotes on this, stick "cold harsh universe" into eve-search and read the hundreds of posts.
In fact, wonderful straw man builder, why don't you show me where, in marketing material or otherwise, Eve advertises something akin to a "safe area" free from the usual PVP?
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
437
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:46:00 -
[113] - Quote
Justin Credulent wrote:basically all the anger in this thread boils down to 1 thing:
bullies mad they can't bully anymore.
No.
People are mad that ******* mouthbreathers like you join a PVP game and then whine, and whine, and whine that you didn't want that, and that CCP should change the rules for you.
You fail to understand the basic game concepts, but feel it is wise to comment anyway.
Put a gun to your head. (in game)
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Cannibal Kane
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
88
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:00:00 -
[114] - Quote
Yes this game is a PVP game.
Whether it is Explosions, Markets, Industial. People are competing with each other, it is just the form it takes place in thats differs.
I prever the explosions type of PVP. Others don't so I no problem with them trying to get away from that form of PVP, which Dec Shield allows them to.
What I do get tired about is the those that want to violence a ship call those that don't pussies. Everybody has their way of playing the game.
Just let it be and move on to the next target, it really is that simple.
People that don't want to fight do get caught in wars sometimes, it just takes carefull coordination and entrapment to catch them for that kill. Whther it is at a gate, or in a belt in some secluded system. You can catch them if you try.
So I really don't understand what the fightin is about. Some people enjoy building empires, others like shooting it down.
"Demoralize the Enemy from within by Surprise, Terror, Sabotage, Assassination. This method of Guarilla Warfare is the only Method of Warfare for me"
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Xintri Ra'Virr
Six Kin Mining and Development Group
1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:32:00 -
[115] - Quote
I have better solution to unwanted wardecks.
1. Create 1 man alt corp.
2. Create Ally with that Corp.
3. Create 2 more alt corps ( A, B), more if needed.
4. Wardec your ally with corps A and B.
5. Make war mutual with Ally to avoid future costs for corps A, B. WWar never happen for real as its your alt corps.
6. Congratulations!! You have just raised next wardec costs to 150m / week or more ( see point 3 ). That should be high enough
to make it not worth to most griefers.
Enjoy.
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george harries
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 12:00:00 -
[116] - Quote
I try to avoid posting other than if I need some help or I want to help. So awaiting the flames 
FWIW my main was/is mainly carebear - missions, mining, industrialist and I set up an alt account purely for PvP.
They have joined a corp that are PvP and regularly do roams in low/nul sec.
Yes Eve has PvP but it is not a PvP only game and it really is annoying for people to use that 'argument' to justify high-sec griefing.
I have been ganked and accept it but when a corp war decs a pure carebear corp it really is a rather sad comment on the war deccers as individuals and their skill (or lack of) in game. I'm happy to admit I'm crap at PvP but love the rush you get when you're sent through a gate first and get jumped by a gang - overloading everything whilst you move towards hull and your corpmates jump in - like last night -I lost a BC but we took down a tier 3 BC and 2 other BC's with even numbers - was fun.
However, we went out looking for trouble - griefing people enough does lead to ragequit - yeah no doubt hilarious to some but you can have your chuckles and a challenge going to low sec - everyone knows the score - if you're there expect trouble. Personally our corp generally leave indy's etc alone - I mean what skill is involved FFS any teenage, socially excluded malcontent can get a kill by attacking those they perceive as weak - personally if I did that I wouldn't brag about it...but then I don't understand how you get your kicks by irritating others and the 'tears' of someone who quits game seems to be the ultimate joy  .
Mind you if all the carebears were griefed out of game (yeah never happen) you might have to fight corps that are even remotely half decent and maybe you'd quit  |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
438
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Posted - 2011.12.05 12:41:00 -
[117] - Quote
george harries wrote:However, we went out looking for trouble
Confirming the citizens of Afghanistan willingly walked into a PVP zone 
As soon as you make some areas "safe" and others "hostile" you break the risk : reward dynamic. Since you can get near zero risk, any reward is too much.
Funnily enough, positions like yours are the most stupefying there are. Your argument is based on the fallacious assumption that one can only mission, mine and be an industrialist in highsec, and ergo "highsec protection" equals "industry protection."
This is wrong. Highsec is not necessary, it is simply a very, very comforting blanket. If you removed all the PVP from highsec, you would also need to remove all the reward.
You chose.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
george harries
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 13:38:00 -
[118] - Quote
Sorry - without getting involved in a flame war - i agree there shouldn't be nil risk - but I'm talking about deliberate griefing for the sake of it. Frankly, if a high sec 'carebear' corp has members smack talking and hassling people - yeah war decc them - legitimate reason. But war deccing people just doing their own thing makes no sense to me. It's just for easy kills and, frankly, is just playground bullying in a different format ...yes this is just a game....but some people play just to relax and mining etc is there way of doing that. Kicking them about because you can or because they don't PvP is just ....meh. Yeah it's a sandbox and I wouldn't change the mechanics in any way but I can't comprehend the mentality.
People who deliberately target them for this are merely turning people off the game, to me that makes the game a less rich environment. My opinion, not right or wrong and I'm sure many disagree with me but I have seen both sides of the coin and being decced as a PvP corp with home stations in high sec (next to low) is a different scenario than a small PvE based corp who have no idea about PvP and so are just easy kills for the people who war decc for no reason at all. When we are decced we will lose ships we will hunt them and attack their POSs etc - and so they get gf and so do we....just really lame (IMHO) attacking a non-PvP based corp - like hunting your prey when it's tied to a post - you don't have to dislike hunting to see the patheticness of the scenario. |
Xolve
Insomniacs.
83
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
Xintri Ra'Virr wrote:I have better solution to unwanted wardecks.
1. Create 1 man alt corp.
2. Create Ally with that Corp.
3. Create 2 more alt corps ( A, B), more if needed.
4. Wardec your ally with corps A and B.
5. Make war mutual with Ally to avoid future costs for corps A, B. WWar never happen for real as its your alt corps.
6. Congratulations!! You have just raised next wardec costs to 150m / week or more ( see point 3 ). That should be high enough
to make it not worth to most griefers.
Enjoy.
Thats a fine theory and all, if you had any idea what you were talking about.
When you pay to war-dec a corp/alliance you pay 2M/50M ISK respectively for each of their INBOUND war decs, not outbound; and by making the war mutual (so as neither party is paying a fee to concord) it doesn't change the cost of war. Regardless as to how much the war is going to cost... a couple hundred million ISK is completely worth it, if you have an overly active corp, with active members, that are consolidated in a handful of systems.
Avoiding a war is relatively simple, and you can even have great fun with would be aggressors if you wanted to. EvE revolves around PvP, Empire Building, Politics, Backhanded Villainy, and Drama. Don't like it? Thats fine, I'm sure your 6-7 months here will be boring and full of little red boxy things, and veldspar.
This is EvE.
Lady Spank for C&P Moderator. |
Justin Credulent
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:46:00 -
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Seriously, grow a set,
a set of wha- oh. i see your problem. you take this game too seriously. hey bro let me ask you... when you turn your computer off, are you still a hero...?
maybe one day you will actually experience 'playing EvE'.
i have an alt in rvb, does that count?!
Whats the point of mining, exploration, mission running and industry if in your perfect no violence internet spaceship world, no ships ever get destroyed?
i don't know "bro", the last i checked people played games for fun, and some people do indeed have fun doing those htings.
You make money off these things because **** explodes. Back to your meager carebear ***** prattle.
yeah, and? that doesn't make this a "pvp game" nor does it necessitate my corp being wardecced for 2 months.
Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships! |
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