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Lord Charos
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.27 14:20:00 -
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so what if dec alliance got wardecced? |
Khaleb Valliante
Z0MBIELAND
Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.02.27 15:01:00 -
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Diva Ex Machina wrote:Nik Bombay wrote:Most wars are declared against indy and casual player corps so the lame pvprs that either got spanked out of null or are to much of a coward to even try, have an easy target. To much of a coward to do the militia.
The real pathetic thing about it is they think all those mining barges and mission rigged ships they gank look good on their kill list, lolz. This. The majority of high sec war decs I have seen have been against newbie/PVE/indie corps who know bugger all about PVP and can't defend themselves. High sec war deccers generally suck at PVP and are looking for cheap and easy kills. If they happen to dec a corp who are willing and able to fight back they hide in a station. Much as I like the idea of carebears using game mechanics to avoid non-consensual PVP, though, I can't help feeling that joining a dec shield alliance is just going to paint a huge target on your corp. It's going to flag you as exactly the kind of victim corp that's good for deccing. A better solution is to deprive your enemy of kills and make it too boring and/or expensive to continue the war.
the majority of highsec wardecs are against huge failalliances like shadow of death, goons, test etc etc, who, due to their blob "pvp" doctrine and "i need someone to tell me what to do"-lemming mentality, possess no pvp skill at all at an individual level and are even easier prey than those high sec bears, while also offering much higher rewards in terms of drops |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:45:00 -
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Ikra Atarm wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Poland wanted germany to invade them. This but perhaps this alliance will show Ccp how broken the System is
My post was in response to a particularly moronic post that came directly before mine. The poster stated that war is what happens when two entities that want to fight each other decide they want to fight.
I don't object to decsheild. It has the fantastic effect of placing a wonderful little mark in the alliance history of corps that need to be put against the wall when summer rolls around. |
Chav Queen
whips chains and ballgags
Care Factor
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Posted - 2012.02.28 17:02:00 -
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Well I just read through this thread and its made quite a read. My own thoughts on the topic is as follows.
For years people have been using devious ways to kill people in high sec. Can flipping can baiting ninja salvaging you name it somone has used it to try tricking a noob into destruction.
War dec griefs with alt remote repping blah blah anything that can be done to ruin somones day for them has been done its part of EVE.
Well now some people have come up with a devious means of unwanted war dec defense and I wish them all the luck with it. |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled
The.Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:18:00 -
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This is a great service and i know quite a few bears who have used this service.
+1 for the bears.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.03.03 19:45:00 -
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Lord Charos wrote:so what if dec alliance got wardecced?
Nothing really.
All the wardecs of people that join dec shield are transferred to them that's the entire point isn't it?
Basically while you are in the dec shield alliance all the agressors of corp that joined the dec shield alliance can shoot you.
We're pretty much permanently at war with dec shield I think (the war is even mutual I noticed recently, no idea how that happened though). |
Ahrieman
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 23:42:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:We've just broken the 200 corps served mark. We're currently in 39 wars.
That's 200 easily identifiable target corps to dec...as soon as the mechanics get fixed. This will only end in great lols.
Sig tanking is the new black |
Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.03.04 00:12:00 -
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Ahrieman wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:We've just broken the 200 corps served mark. We're currently in 39 wars. That's 200 easily identifiable target corps to dec...as soon as the mechanics get fixed. This will only end in great lols.
I has a list ^.^
The surrender mails are nice intel ;-) |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.03.05 00:19:00 -
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250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!
Free Wardec Removal |
Silus Morde
Canseraga Mining Division
BMS Fusion
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Posted - 2012.03.05 02:02:00 -
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Just finished reading this wonderful thread. Been out of the game since last summer and I had forgotten a lot of things. so thanks for the refresher course. Mostly a tiny mining corp and part of the game I love is the danger - never knowing if I will be war-dec'd or suicide ganked, or have to abandon wrecks when ninja looters are around(forgot that one yesterday and got a scare - thought they were about to suicide my barge), etc. I love to mine, I do have an alt that can fight but would rather mine.
I guess that qualifies me as a carebear, however - without PvP and griefers this game would not be very exciting. Just saying. If I get war-dec'd I have options but you know that is just part of EVE(not all of) and without it - well it wouldn't be EVE. I did laugh at the post that suggested that there be an option to make grievers mine. Thanks for a great thread. There were many tears. |
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Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:35:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!
Ah so you made it mutual we did wonder.
Well bring it good sir! All pew is welcome pew.  |
Kat Bandeis
Border Zone Excursions
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:16:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I don't object to decsheild. It has the fantastic effect of placing a wonderful little mark in the alliance history of corps that need to be put against the wall when summer rolls around.
That says everything you need to say. Translation: "when the kids are out of school." |
Lithalnas
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.06 03:55:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!
because merc corps(not alliances) only have 3 wardec slots and no more, one slot dedicated to an unfruitful war with dec shield is not worth it.
How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akita T)
http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.03.06 18:45:00 -
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Lithalnas wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD! because merc corps(not alliances) only have 3 wardec slots and no more, one slot dedicated to an unfruitful war with dec shield is not worth it.
Mutual wars don't count to the total though, so them making it mutual is doing a favour really ;-) |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
175
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:25:00 -
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This is a handy tool. 
I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:01:00 -
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Inventive use of the mechanics, but I'm baffled that this is not considered an exploit.  |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:04:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Inventive use of the mechanics, but I'm baffled that this is not considered an exploit.
It was until the GMs decided that wardecs were unfair to the victims. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:26:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Inventive use of the mechanics, but I'm baffled that this is not considered an exploit.
CCP threw in the towel on the issue, it is basically unmanageable in its current form. Hopefully a better mechanic will come out with the next expansion.
I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:34:00 -
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I read that the wardecs are up for review in the next big update. If this is now the attitude at CCP, I fear the worst. Empire wardecs is one of the few things keeping empire space healthy, culling the carebears and forcing them to evolve into better EVE-players. |
Fat Lizard
Scorpions Academy
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Posted - 2012.03.14 21:26:00 -
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Bumping a fantastic service
Thank you Sir |
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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.03.16 15:48:00 -
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285 corps helped (292 by this time tomorrow). We've reached a new record of 42 incoming wardecs as well.
Free Wardec Removal |
Atomik Harmonik
Working Girls
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:27:00 -
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I really wish there was a 'dislike' button |
Hambonie
Moon In Scorpio
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.03.17 06:16:00 -
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So what does care bear Corp do after war decs get fixed in the upcoming expansion and dec shield doesn't work anymore. Since a rework of joining or leaving alliances isn't going to cause you to shead war anymore  |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.17 10:50:00 -
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Hambonie wrote:So what does care bear Corp do after war decs get fixed in the upcoming expansion and dec shield doesn't work anymore. Since a rework of joining or leaving alliances isn't going to cause you to shead war anymore
Jump corp? Dock up? Relocate? |
Daniel Dalegor
Cornucopia Ltd.
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Posted - 2012.03.17 12:50:00 -
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Im very happy about this alliance and ability to shake off what us dont interest. If someone want PvP let he go to low sec and search for equal fight. :) |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
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Posted - 2012.03.17 15:45:00 -
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Hambonie wrote:So what does care bear Corp do after war decs get fixed in the upcoming expansion and dec shield doesn't work anymore. Since a rework of joining or leaving alliances isn't going to cause you to shead war anymore
Whatever is needed I suppose, corp jumping before a war starts would be far more common I guess. If there is no options the people in the sandbox that don't want to Pew-Pew will just except the 11% noob corp tax I suppose. It could be potentially damaging to the casual player base though. I doubt there will ever be a game mechanic that forces players to stay in a wardecced corp before the war actually starts. It would turn corps in to prisons.
I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Hambonie
Moon In Scorpio
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.03.18 18:23:00 -
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Daniel Dalegor wrote:Im very happy about this alliance and ability to shake off what us dont interest. If someone want PvP let he go to low sec and search for equal fight. :)
Eve isn't about fair fights and having risk free gaming experience. The main problem I see with the dec shield mechanic is the inability to destroy assests like POSs and etc. Because of CCPs failed policy the game is turning from a sandbox into a stagnate marshland. |
Lady Spink
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.18 20:28:00 -
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Hambonie wrote: Eve isn't about fair fights and having risk free gaming experience. The main problem I see with the dec shield mechanic is the inability to destroy assests like POSs and etc. Because of CCPs failed policy the game is turning from a sandbox into a stagnate marshland.
Why would you kill a pos that is still used by someone? that is not nice...
If you find a pos that is not being used, the corp would not use Dec Shield to prevent a war.
Besides that, if you have some guts you should gank a pos..... poofta! |
Hambonie
Moon In Scorpio
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.03.18 20:55:00 -
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Lady Spink wrote:Hambonie wrote: Eve isn't about fair fights and having risk free gaming experience. The main problem I see with the dec shield mechanic is the inability to destroy assests like POSs and etc. Because of CCPs failed policy the game is turning from a sandbox into a stagnate marshland. Why would you kill a pos that is still used by someone? that is not nice... If you find a pos that is not being used, the corp would not use Dec Shield to prevent a war. Besides that, if you have some guts you should gank a pos..... poofta!
You do it because some people don't do remote research and it's nice when you pop a pos and T2 bpos fall out |
T'Pawhl
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.18 21:14:00 -
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Quote:Because of CCPs failed policy the game is turning from a sandbox into a stagnate marshland.
EVE has been stagnant for years. Making the game more user-friendly has actually boosted subscription numbers; there is a strong, direct, positive correlation with the softening of EVE and the rise in subscriptions. If anything, it has reinvigorated EVE. |
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