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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated
Executive Outcomes
114
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:45:00 -
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HA!
I'm 41. I often AM the oldest dude in any given fleet. I'm often being FC'd by people that are literally half my age.
I consider it a serious selling point in Eve that many of the players are a bit older than your average WoW or CoD fan.
I've flown with 60+ year old grandfathers in this game...and grandfathers tend not to get all drama-llama over internet spaceships. Refreshing.
The younger guys I fly with, to a one, seem a different breed (well, other than fleet chat **** links) than the twenty-somethings that us old-timers like to shake our fists at and yell to keep off the lawn.
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Vintrox Shi
VM Mining and Salvage
1
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:54:00 -
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I'm in the same boat as a lot of folks here. Work a lot with obligations outside of that. I usually play when I'm doing homework (mining allows for little interaction).
I'm not sure about definition of old but I definitely miss the days of playing Privateer and thinking how awesome it was to be able to go do almost anything. I missed out on some of the games you guys are mentioning as I didn't get into computers and computer games until the late 80's early 90's just as video games started their evolution. That was when I started to learn about batch scripts so I could run one command to get my games up and running (ie memmaker).
Alright, I'm off to go kick some dirt in someone's lawn. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1643
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:57:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:I'm in the "older" bracket, too. I co-own and operate a small company, employing 25 to 30 people (summer students make the number fluctuate) and I deal with their issues as well as anything on the "family side".
Like any good game, EVE keeps me sane.
So, the only I advice I can offer: Keep playing now and then, if only to put your brain somewhere else for a few hours each week.
Amen, between my real life job dealing with crazy people and then having to deal with crazy people at home, if I couldn't' take my frustrations out on a few hundred Sansha/Blood/Angel/whatever ships (or occasionally, a couple of Goons lol) per night, I might be in a straight jacket right now.
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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
186
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:57:00 -
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Another over 40 pilot checking in. Most days EVE is just an expensive chat channel that I just can't leave but I love the community surrounding it.
-á |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
877
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:01:00 -
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At first I thought this topic was going to be about how hard it is to hit the tiny sliver of an overheat button during a fight.
I am in the same boat as op and want to give my support to this topic. No matter what he does I hope ccp keeps some options open in game for people who just want to play eve and aren't necessarilly interested spending huge amounts of time in game. And yes keeping up with friendships takes time in or out of game. So requiring people to build social connections in game makes eve much more time consuming - and takes from time people could be building social connections outside of eve.
For me eve is a tv alternative when I go home, I refuse to look at it as a job. I do low sec solo pvp and have been having a blast lately.
I used to do faction war but it became more high maintenance with station lockouts. You spend more time reshipping and moving stuff versus fighting. Also the fighting has become much more focused on just a few systems where you need fleets and fleets take even more time per quality fight. I understand some faction war corps even require everyone to do one defensive plex per day.
Unfortunately there seems to be allot of eve players who have too much time on their hands supporting the trend to making eve higher maintenance. I have actually been called lazy by some eve players, because I do not spend more time playing this computer game. Just think about that a second.
Well I hope more normal people take a bit of time to speak out about keeping eve a possibility (at least in some capacities) for people who can't dedicate their lives to it.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1425
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:04:00 -
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Vintrox Shi wrote:I'm in the same boat as a lot of folks here. Work a lot with obligations outside of that. I usually play when I'm doing homework (mining allows for little interaction).
I'm not sure about definition of old but I definitely miss the days of playing Privateer and thinking how awesome it was to be able to go do almost anything. I missed out on some of the games you guys are mentioning as I didn't get into computers and computer games until the late 80's early 90's just as video games started their evolution. That was when I started to learn about batch scripts so I could run one command to get my games up and running (ie memmaker).
Alright, I'm off to go kick some dirt in someone's lawn.
Privateer. Gah.. Yet another blast from the past.
I'm begining to wonder when I've ever slept?
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1643
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:05:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
EVE is a hobby like many others. If you like your hobby you make time for it and your signifigant others helps you do that (as you help them have a hobby they can use to de-stress as well).
Ultimately, it's about life choices, I'm 38 and I've got old college buddies who make way more than I do but never ever have time for anything, most of them have to try to incorporate relaxing activities into their jobs (like abusing the hell out of their travel accounts, taking clients to strip clubs etc etc). Some of them keep wanting me to quit my crappy/dangerous government job and come live the high life with them. But for all the downsides of my job, I get actual OFF time to spend with family and pursue my hobbies (of which EVE is one, the others involve paint balls, climbing gear and beer lol).
If you've made life choices inconstant with your hobbies, just find a new way to do your hobbies.
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Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1424
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:12:00 -
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RL>EVE, every time.
Play when you want and do whatever, but don't let Eve interfere with your real life. Eve can be a part of your routine, but it doesn't HAVE to be nor should your routine be molded to fit around making time to play it. It's a game.
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Pepper Solette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:16:00 -
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42 here with a wife and kids.
My grandmother had the old Atari. No, not the 2600, the first one. When we would go there, my brother and I would play the COMBAT cartridge all day shooting each other in TANK and BIPLANE. Oh , the memories!
My friend had a C64 and my first system when i was 17 was the Amiga 500. Then onto a 486SX33 with no cd-rom.
I've been listening to all the computer games everyone played but my first ever foray into space-based stuff was the game called Starfleet Battles. You used to have a space map that covered the whole dining table and little lead ships on stands. You had to mark your sheet when you were hit etc. I personally used to play the Tholians. After that, it was onto the computer to play Elite, Wing Commander etc. Then i played FPS for many years until someone got me into EvE. 5-6 years on and i am still here.
I've done the mission, construction, pirate and null-sec thing. Had a lot of fun, but null is hard work if you are in any senior position. Lots of work and a pretty thankless task as a lot of ppl in the Alliance don't know....or even care......what you do as long as they are making money and their needs are met. "When are we getting the station upgrade, where is the jump-bridge?" gimme gimme gimme, mine mine mine etc etc. I spent too much time at the computer dealing with one clown to the next that i hardly got to actually play the game in a ship sense. Then it got to needing to set my alarm clock to be at certain "important" things like station timers. That's when i left. Because the important thing to me was my family. I wasn't the most alive person when i had to get up at 2am for something that was supposed to take and hour went on for 3 or until dawn. So i walked away from it a while back and spent more family time. Now that i am coming back I will probably go back to multi-box piracy or look for a small group of senior guys where i can just play the game again for what it is supposed to be, an enjoyable break from real life.
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Deimos Ovaert
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:21:00 -
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Anslo wrote:RL>EVE, every time.
Play when you want and do whatever, but don't let Eve interfere with your real life. Eve can be a part of your routine, but it doesn't HAVE to be nor should your routine be molded to fit around making time to play it. It's a game.
I think that us that are over 40 (maybe that includes you?) with families, jobs/businesses are keenly aware of this fact. It's likely one of the draws to us as we only have sporadic or limited play time and with EVE a week, month, quarter off doesn't mean we've fallen behind outside of some twitch skills refreshing. |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
174
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:33:00 -
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while not as old as many in this thread, i've got plenty of responsibility including; career, family and other hobbies. one of the reasons i love this game is because you can set your play style to fit your RL time constraints. a lot of industry tasks can be structured around a busy schedule, not to mention, i can work on spreadsheets in my spare time at the office. and when more time is available, i can break out some ships and go exploring. |
Aarin Wrath
Dominion Strategic
12
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:51:00 -
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Chylogos wrote:
Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days...
Oh god yes. 
Just had a flash back of the old ASCII ship attack animations!
One of the things I love about EVE is that it reminds me of Trade Wars a little.
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Manny Moons
New Order Logistics
CODE.
55
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:23:00 -
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When I heard the next EVE expansion was called Odyssey, I remembered that after seeing the commercial Pong arcade game, my family bought one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnavox_Odyssey
When you got tired of playing tennis, you put a colored plastic film over the screen and called it hockey.
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Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
271
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:26:00 -
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I have met quite some old players here in EVE, I m quite young but its usual to see people on the 40s to 60s age range on the corps I have been or friends I have. so you are certainly not alone at all. |
Shawnm339
Apex Overplayed Coalition
Nulli Legio
75
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:26:00 -
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38 year old own my business so I'm quite lucky in that I can actually play when I like , I remember my first zx spectrum and I actually learned to programme through magazines that my dad subsrcibed to the annoying thing was saving up all the issues typing out the whole thing and then it didn't work because some nerdbert at the magazine had made a typo!!
I remember star wars the arcade game and the following return of the jedi as very early loves of mine and I guess I've always had a soft spot for space games
I tell kids about dial up now and they're like 'WHAT you cant make phone calls at the same time!!'
Anyway what times bingo on? |
Vintrox Shi
VM Mining and Salvage
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:37:00 -
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Shawnm339 wrote:
I tell kids about dial up now and they're like 'WHAT you cant make phone calls at the same time!!'
This reminds me of when wireless first came out. God help the person who called me in the middle of my game and dropped my wireless network because the phone was on the same frequency as the router.
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Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1425
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:48:00 -
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Deimos Ovaert wrote:Anslo wrote:RL>EVE, every time.
Play when you want and do whatever, but don't let Eve interfere with your real life. Eve can be a part of your routine, but it doesn't HAVE to be nor should your routine be molded to fit around making time to play it. It's a game. I think that us that are over 40 (maybe that includes you?) with families, jobs/businesses are keenly aware of this fact. It's likely one of the draws to us as we only have sporadic or limited play time and with EVE a week, month, quarter off doesn't mean we've fallen behind outside of some twitch skills refreshing.
Heh I'm actually a good bit younger. I just drilled this fact into my head when I got out of college. A lot of people my age don't and they end up in trouble at work for it.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1645
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:49:00 -
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Shawnm339 wrote:
Anyway what times bingo on?
After Maude but before Hogan's Heros.
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1342
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:32:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
Although I doubt I fit into the "older" bracket. I have found myself in a good situation in Eve whereby I am in my own corp with a few close Eve Players that I trust, and I have multiple char channels devoted to staying in touch with other like minded players, so when I log on I just ask in one of those channels... "Anyone roaming?"
If the answer to that question is no, I just jump in a PvP ship anyway and go look for a few fights and then ask if anyone wants to join me. I've done a fair amount of FCing, so it's easy to get a fleet together. I just tell people I am out looking for trouble and people come join me. That's how my fleets generally start.
I take breaks from Eve from time to time. I've spent a large amount of time playing Warframe recently. But I always come back to Eve. And the moral is, you don't need to devote a huge amount of time to Eve to get enjoyment out of it. Having lots of ISK is a secondary concern that actually does take a lot of time or commitment (not always, but mostly).
I think I am ranting, so I will cut to the chase. For me, what it comes down to, is having people who trust me and are willing to join me in what I am doing. That way, I just log on, ask if anyone wants to join me and usually someone does. Being in a big friendly corp helps a lot, but they need to know you and trust you.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Doctor Ape MD
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:33:00 -
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I know this is totally off-topic, but for those of you who said you loved the old Avalon Hill games, boardgames (all types) have been having something of a renaissance for the past decade or so. Fun thing to do with your family, and there are some excellent space games out there for those into spaceships (there is even an Eve branded boardgame, though I have never played it). I highly recommend boardgamegeek (website) for anyone interested. I could even recommend a few if anyone wanted to PM about them.
Anyway to stay somewhat on topic, I'm with you OP. I'm not as old as some in this thread, but I'm close enough and recently became a dad, so my free time has pretty much gone to nothing. This is one thing I like about Eve, even if I have no free time and have to semi-afk all of the time (diapers, feedings, whatever), I can always find SOMETHING constructive to do, even if it is just park in front of a rock and shoot it for a few hours. |
Armtoe
Shadowland Rangers
Eternal Syndicate
250
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:43:00 -
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Well old is relative - I certainly dont feel all that old. On the other hand, I remember when pong was the hot game. The way I see it, everyone is entitled to their hobbies. Some folk play golf, others fish. I play eve (and fish in the season). No matter what your hobby there are folk who become obsessive, letting it take over their lives to the exclusion of other things, which of course does not make for a healthy well rounded individual. As long as your hobby doesnt take over your life to the exclusion of your family and work obligations then there is nothing wrong with having a little down time and fun. |
GreenSeed
272
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:53:00 -
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eve is not a game, its a hobby. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8112
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Posted - 2013.04.24 21:28:00 -
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Manny Moons wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:... I got my first computer at the age of 11 ... See, you're not all that old. At 11, I was still breathing the outdoor air, riding my bike, playing baseball. There was only one company in town big enough to even have a computer, and it was in a big glass room next to a soundproof room full of keypunch girls. When I was 21 and in the Navy, I traded a 10-speed Schwinn (back when both terms meant something) for an almost-new TRS-80 Model I Level I 4k with cassette player. My favorite program was the T-Bug debugger. I went through all the upgrades - to Level II 16k, expansion interface 48k, disk drive, RS-232 and modem, Orchestra-80 synthesizer. Then I made the switch to Heathkit and CP/M. H-8, H-89, a combination 8" floppy, 8" 5MB (yes megabyte) hard drive. That phase lasted until the IBM clones came out. I miss the days when you could actually understand the parts in a computer, and the programs that run on it. Software that was often written by just one guy. Writing code that seemed useful at the time. I miss the ability to concentrate on a problem all night long on pizza and caffeine, and still function the next day. I miss being the guy doing the work instead of the guy managing the guys doing the work. But I don't think I'd want to trade places with an 11 year old today. Damn you old  I wasn't far behind you though, TRS-80 was around about '77. Got my first in '82, a ZX-81 , used my birthday money and Xmas money to pay for it, I was still outside, sucking at football (soccer for you furriners), excelling at rugby, wrecking my bikes on jumps and forest track, thinking girls were icky etc.
A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
BoBoZoBo
Divine Beasts
Nite's Reign
220
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Posted - 2013.04.24 22:26:00 -
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No - you are not.
I am in a nearly identical situation as you plus I just started having an affair.
It's hard to find time to play, and when you do play, you need to accomplish as much as you can as soon as possible.
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