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Zedzed Nyne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:28:00 -
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I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
498
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:39:00 -
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I'm in the "older" bracket, too. I co-own and operate a small company, employing 25 to 30 people (summer students make the number fluctuate) and I deal with their issues as well as anything on the "family side".
Like any good game, EVE keeps me sane.
So, the only I advice I can offer: Keep playing now and then, if only to put your brain somewhere else for a few hours each week.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1260
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:42:00 -
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Play when you can, but keep your priorities straight. Well past middle-aged here, and I play EveO when my RL responsibilities and commitments are taken care of. I guess the nice thing about being a student is that you don't have any real responsibilities, especially if mommy and daddy are paying the bills.  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Ryun Thar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:46:00 -
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I'm in that boat. Software engineer , wife , kids , house etc..
i buy enough plex to keep me fitted for relatively cheap pvp, roam around low/null.. die badly a lot but also get thrills no other game can give me.
if what i wanted to do led to anything that felt like grind i def would not be around.. (my) life is too short. |

Nalha Saldana
Sickology
709
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:47:00 -
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I could strongly recommend Faction Warfare, its one of the few things in eve you can just jump in and join the little time you do have to play. Start with frigate pvp, its easy to get into and doesnt cost much to lose the first 20 ships (takes some losses to learn). |

Diablo Ex
Strenus Custodes
170
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:47:00 -
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I'm also one of the "more seasoned" players. I'm self-employed and rapidly approaching retirement (which should hopefully open up some game time for me). I have enjoyed the space gaming genre for more years than much of the player base has been alive. I started miniatures gaming and role playing in the late 1970's with GDW's Traveller while I was serving in the military before there was such a thing as the Internet or a personal computer in every home. LOL... I use a recording of a modem's sign on squelch as a ringtone, and many of the teens around here as "What is that sound?" Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
578
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:47:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
I'm in my 40s. Kids. Grand-kids even. House. Cars. Principal Software Engineer for a major global software company. Been putting in 60 hour work weeks for the last couple months as delivery date nears.
I just maintain a causal play style were my activity level is really not that important. Log in when I want, do what I want, make sure that I'm not pestered by others.
I tried being in null. Too many hassles. One cloaky camper and your play is shut down. I don't need that. So, I moved back to high sec.
I was in big corps. Again, too many hassles with war decs and such. Now I'm just in my own corp with just my alts. Was dec comes in, I just drop to NPC corp until it ends.
Friends keep trying to get me to be more involved with their corps, and I just refuse. I don't want to be in charge of anything.
For me, EVE is my relaxing escape from the stress and hassles of real life. If there is something in EVE that is stressful or a hassle, I simply don't do it. If there is something in the way of not letting me play when and how I like, I just use game mechanics to get around it. |

Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
119
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:49:00 -
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Well passed middle aged here with a busy rl job and like the OP end up coming back to Eve after taking the odd break.
RL always has to come first so just fit your game-time in when you can. Main thing to remember is that Eve's supposed to be fun, not a second job so find a corp that's happy with casual players or form your own with a few like minded players. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8068
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:51:00 -
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Middle aged here, my advice is to play when you can, and to enjoy the time you spend playing. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:53:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
You don't actually have to live in New Eden full time to enjoy it. 
I will not deny that there are games with faster returns that don't require such dedication but obviously there is something here that's addictive and fun or you wouldn't feel the need to return. I don't know precisely what that is in your case making it hard to provide any real advice. So "enjoy it" when you can rather than worrying so much over ruling New Eden. You already won the REAL game of life.
Why does this post make me think of "House of Cards" on Netflix. Frank Underwood plays video games. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he plays EVE too in a future episode. |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
578
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:54:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:and role playing in the late 1970's with GDW's Traveller while I was serving in the military.
Ah, the days when you had to align the ship to get off a shot with your spinal mount meason gun, only to have the enemy hidden behind a wall of debris thrown from his sand casters. ;)
My Traveler play time was in the early 80s when I was in high school.
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Diablo Ex
Strenus Custodes
171
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:57:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:and role playing in the late 1970's with GDW's Traveller while I was serving in the military. Ah, the days when you had to align the ship to get off a shot with your spinal mount meason gun, only to have the enemy hidden behind a wall of debris thrown from his sand casters. ;) My Traveler play time was in the early 80s when I was in high school.
If only CCP would give us sandcaster turrets and incorporate line of sight combat so we could hide behind obstacles...
Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
145
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:58:00 -
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The Eve player base age shows whenever you get a bunch of us talking about how much we loved the old spaceship game Elite. Like many of you I've been at it since the TRS80/Apple II era, and still live like a big kid watching anime, Star Wars and Doctor Who, much like I did back in the 70s. |

Zedzed Nyne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:58:00 -
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Truly encouraged by responses ... many thanks all! General thread appears to be to keep EVE for an escape into something more simple which I guess I already felt but was getting frustrated as there's still so much EVE opportunity and so little time. Really pleased. Thank you. |

Zedzed Nyne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:00:00 -
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Celeste Taylor wrote:The Eve player base age shows whenever you get a bunch of us talking about how much we loved the old spaceship game Elite. Like many of you I've been at it since the TRS80/Apple II era, and still live like a big kid watching anime, Star Wars and Doctor Who, much like I did back in the 70s.
... and it was searching for 'Elite' that brought me to EVE around three years ago. The ZX Spectrum was the platform of choice for me in the '80s - and Elite was truly awesome (even if docking was frustrating).
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
543
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:03:00 -
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The forties are knocking on my door. Senior engineer in an engineering consulting firm. Wife and beatiful kids. Don't have a lot of time myself. But that's the beauty of Eve; you play how you wanna, when you wanna.
If you can justify the monthly-cost-to-fun ratio my advice is to keep your account active.
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Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:05:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:Truly encouraged by responses ... many thanks all! General thread appears to be to keep EVE for an escape into something more simple which I guess I already felt but was getting frustrated as there's still so much EVE opportunity and so little time. Really pleased. Thank you.
When I read rookie chat for the first time, there was a 12 year old kid throwing a fit that ended with: "C'mon y'all. Let's get out of here! This is a game for old people.
Celeste Taylor wrote:The Eve player base age shows whenever you get a bunch of us talking about how much we loved the old spaceship game Elite. Like many of you I've been at it since the TRS80/Apple II era, and still live like a big kid watching anime, Star Wars and Doctor Who, much like I did back in the 70s.
Off thread remark, please forgive = I just love your avatar pic. |

Ryun Thar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:09:00 -
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Not to mention, in what other game does your character continue to progress whether you have time to play or not?.. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8070
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:16:00 -
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Celeste Taylor wrote:The Eve player base age shows whenever you get a bunch of us talking about how much we loved the old spaceship game Elite. Like many of you I've been at it since the TRS80/Apple II era, and still live like a big kid watching anime, Star Wars and Doctor Who, much like I did back in the 70s. You opened Pandoras Box, it can never be closed, this thread is now about older gamers, Elite, Dr Who, and possibly Wing Commander.
A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1262
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:01:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:I use a recording of a modem's sign on squelch as a ringtone, and many of the teens around here as "What is that sound?"
That's friggin' awesome, man!!!  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8072
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:10:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:I use a recording of a modem's sign on squelch as a ringtone, and many of the teens around here as "What is that sound?" Tell them it's 20th Century dubstep  A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1406
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:13:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening. Not hardly.  I'd say that the demographic here is somewhat older than your typical MMO, and many, many of us have families.
Personally, I have a family, and dogs, and a lot of responsibilities (from which I am presently playing hooky - but not for much longer. )
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:I use a recording of a modem's sign on squelch as a ringtone, and many of the teens around here as "What is that sound?" Tell them it's 20th Century dubstep 
 Skrillex from the dark ages. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1409
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:17:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:and role playing in the late 1970's with GDW's Traveller while I was serving in the military. Ah, the days when you had to align the ship to get off a shot with your spinal mount meason gun, only to have the enemy hidden behind a wall of debris thrown from his sand casters. ;) My Traveler play time was in the early 80s when I was in high school. If only CCP would give us sandcaster turrets and incorporate line of sight combat so we could hide behind obstacles... This! ^
Zedzed Nyne wrote: ... and it was searching for 'Elite' that brought me to EVE around three years ago. The ZX Spectrum was the platform of choice for me in the '80s - and Elite was truly awesome (even if docking was frustrating).
Likewise. 
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: ...possibly Wing Commander.
OK, now you've done it!  Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
48
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:43:00 -
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I remember playing SPCWAR on CompuServe with a 300 baud modem. The upgrade to 1200 baud was great. The long distance phone bills were not.
Quoting the Four Yorkshiremen "And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.."
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
214

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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:43:00 -
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Zedzed Nyne wrote:... The ZX Spectrum was the platform of choice for me in the '80s .... My teenage son fell silent in stunned disbelieve when I showed him my still working ZX spectrum 48k. 'It takes 20 minutes to load that game from a tape?!? Wah???..........'
Tsk, youngsters....
ISD Ezwal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
504
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:45:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Diablo Ex wrote:and role playing in the late 1970's with GDW's Traveller while I was serving in the military. Ah, the days when you had to align the ship to get off a shot with your spinal mount meason gun, only to have the enemy hidden behind a wall of debris thrown from his sand casters. ;) My Traveler play time was in the early 80s when I was in high school.
Awesome games, Traveller and Mega Traveller. I often think of them when fitting a ship in EVE. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8075
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:56:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Zedzed Nyne wrote:... The ZX Spectrum was the platform of choice for me in the '80s .... My teenage son fell silent in stunned disbelieve when I showed him my still working ZX spectrum 48k. 'It takes 20 minutes to load that game from a tape?!? Wah???..........' Tsk, youngsters....  48k? you were spoilt, 16k rubber beer-mat is where it was at, still got mine. It lives in the cupboard with a ZX81, BBC B, Vic 20, C64, Amiga 500 and an Acorn Archimedes, all in working order, unfortunately the Atari 2600 got water damaged and no longer functions, should really get the multimeter out and figure out what's broke.
A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1410
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Posted - 2013.04.24 00:02:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:Zedzed Nyne wrote:... The ZX Spectrum was the platform of choice for me in the '80s .... My teenage son fell silent in stunned disbelieve when I showed him my still working ZX spectrum 48k. 'It takes 20 minutes to load that game from a tape?!? Wah???..........' Tsk, youngsters....  48k? you were spoilt, 16k rubber beer-mat is where it was at, still got mine. It lives in the cupboard with a ZX81, BBC B, Vic 20, C64, Amiga 500 and an Acorn Archimedes, all in working order, unfortunately the Atari 2600 got water damaged and no longer functions, should really get the multimeter out and figure out what's broke. I have a similar collection - an old Sinclair, Vic-20, C-64, C-128 (2 of them!) and an old SX-64. I also have an un-opened carton of 8-inch low-density single-sided floppy disks, and an old Bournouli drive with 2(!) 20-meg disks. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Shao Huang
University of Caille Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.04.24 00:20:00 -
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Old... and many 'responsibilities' in life. Among other things I am a researcher for one of the national scientific research organizations. I am new to EVE, but ooooold to games. I like EVE because... well... you can't win EVE. There is no where to get to, that you have not self generated. Probably true of many things, but very explicit in EVE. This also means that 'pace' and participation and all these things are up to me, regardless of whatever may have become socialized in the game itself. In part because I am oooold, senile and cranky I also do not care much at all about such socialized versions, expectations about or arbitrary assessments people may have about my play and such. I plan to fully take advantage of this aspect of a 'sandbox' environment.
Additionally, I am also combining aspects of my participation with things that contribute to my work and attempting to allow my work to contribute to my game experience, rather than drawing hard fixed boundaries about all of this.
I have also done a great deal of 'leadership development' with executive leaders and in very large organizations. Strategic planning, large scale change... all over the world, for several decades.
The leaders of the large alliances in EVE have to deal with many, many of the same dynamics and their insights and reflections are really very good. Some fo these dynamics are even amplified since their 'workforce' is primarily only moved by intrinsic values. Learning to work with that as a leader or CEO is no small thing and some of them seem amazingly adept and successful at it. I recommend actually trying out organizational strategies you might use in your company in an EVE corporation. There are many places where the utility breaks down, but there are many places where, if you were aware of that you could actively test things in a way that was fun, posed no risk to your RL corporation and contributed to the game and other players. Think of it as an organizational petri dish where the constraints having to do with it being a 'game' amplify and make more visible some dynamics, while distorting or deleting all together other sorts. Oddly, it serves as a 'controlled' environment for such learning. At a systems level, EVE is a human system and so shares all the properties of that with an actual corporation such as your own. There are very serious movements in educational reform that are looking at and trying out all sorts of aspects about this.
As a noob in a similar position, these are my thoughts, such as they are.
I failed to notice, or may have noticed and forgotten in my encroaching senility... has anyone said: get off the lawn ya damn kids! If not it surely needs to be included in this thread.
Private sig. Do not read. |

Sodium Canine
Sovereign Front Sovereign Fleet
10
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Posted - 2013.04.24 00:35:00 -
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Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes- |

Deimos Ovaert
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.04.24 00:50:00 -
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Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes-
Oh yes! Some of my fondest memories of gaming were in the hundreds(?) of Afrika Korps games we played together.
I also fit the general motif of the "Grey Hair Brigade", 40+, kids, business owner. I play when I can, skill when I can't. It's almost as if EVE were made for the over 40 play style and that's what keeps me subscribed.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1412
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Posted - 2013.04.24 01:00:00 -
[32] - Quote
Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes- I lived not far from their offices. Which is not as good a thing as one might think. 
Interstingly, as I played their various games, I gravitated back to "Tactics II" more and more. Also "Wooden Ships and Iron Men." Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Karn Dulake
Scared miners Ltd
1129
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Posted - 2013.04.24 01:01:00 -
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Im older than New Eden and have a lot of responsibilites.
1. Be in a corp thats more of a social club. 2. Dont ever have any management in this game 3. Dont join a nullsec alliance that makes demands of its players. Nothing worse than having a teenage FC who is a sef diagnosed Aspie telling you what to do and how to play your game.
Apart from that welcome to the club. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.04.24 01:02:00 -
[34] - Quote
Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes-
Bunches. Micro or pocket games from other companies too like Heltank, Warp War, and Ogre. I got hooked on Starfleet Battles out of those (that one game more complex than EVE.) |

Deimos Ovaert
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.04.24 01:05:00 -
[35] - Quote
Tank Talbot wrote: Bunches. Micro or pocket games from other companies too like Heltank, Warp War, and Ogre. I got hooked on Starfleet Battles out of those (that one game more complex than EVE.)
Ogre is a great game.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1412
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Posted - 2013.04.24 01:13:00 -
[36] - Quote
Tank Talbot wrote:Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes- Bunches. Micro or pocket games from other companies too like Heltank, Warp War, and Ogre. I got hooked on Starfleet Battles out of those (that one game more complex than EVE.) Ogre. GEV. Rivits. Melee and Melee: ITL. Death Test, Death Test II. Car Wars. Oh, god - Car Wars! Many, many of the old Metagames and Steve Jackson games. GURPS is a nice try, but Melee was just better. Enough rules to do anything you want, and no cumbersome extras.
I've actually played Car Wars against Steve Jackson (draw - his cars all burned, but we lost far more $$ than he did). My friend almost ran him over at one of the early BaltiCons. Accident, of course - but that didn't stop Rich from making a bumper sticker: "I ran down Steve Jackson."
Edit: Actually, my friends and I were the responsible parties who invented the "WeaponCon" prank as a protest against the stricter weapons policy at BaltiCon 6, I think it was. I still have some of the original flyers, somewhere. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Diablo Ex
Strenus Custodes
174
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Posted - 2013.04.24 02:16:00 -
[37] - Quote
Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes-
I still have my box edition of AH's Starship Troopers Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem" |

Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 02:34:00 -
[38] - Quote
ok im old 45 but some of you guys are giveing new meaning to the name dust 514
haha jk dont pod me |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4681
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Posted - 2013.04.24 02:35:00 -
[39] - Quote
Karn Dulake wrote:3. Dont join a nullsec alliance that makes demands of its players. Nothing worse than having a teenage FC who is a sef diagnosed Aspie telling you what to do and how to play your game. lol Module activation timers are buggy. CCP please fix. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8077
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Posted - 2013.04.24 02:53:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:ok im old 45 but some of you guys are giveing new meaning to the name dust 514
haha jk dont pod me We're so old that we fart dust  Just for reference, I got my first computer only a few years after seeing Star Wars open in the cinema, I was 7, since then spaceships have been my drug of choice. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Eurydia Vespasian
nova insula mining and industrial
2362
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Posted - 2013.04.24 03:16:00 -
[41] - Quote
i've said this before...but this is about the only game i play that i feel like just about everyone else is way older than me lol
i'm too young to contribute anything useful to this. 
but nice thread anyway. |

Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 03:39:00 -
[42] - Quote
age dont allways = smart :) in eather direction |

Chylogos
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 03:44:00 -
[43] - Quote
Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13791
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Posted - 2013.04.24 03:49:00 -
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Chylogos wrote:Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days... Sure. There's a modern reimplementation of it too GÇö it's called EVE. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2641
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Posted - 2013.04.24 04:23:00 -
[45] - Quote
Back in my day, we thought Space Invaders was cutting edge and played it long enough to have wrist trouble.
Before that, there was Pong, and the occasional joy of scrolling curse words all over a screen on a Commodore Pet.
If you wanted to send an email, you have to put a huge letter E in an envelope and mail it. Then you had to fend off the dinosaurs that camped the mailboxes. They always camped the mailboxes. We didn't have no warp to zero either. |

Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
268
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Posted - 2013.04.24 06:10:00 -
[46] - Quote
Tank Talbot wrote:Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes- Bunches. Micro or pocket games from other companies too like Heltank, Warp War, and Ogre. I got hooked on Starfleet Battles out of those (that one game more complex than EVE.)
iirc - Starfleet battles is one we tried and tossed.
I figured out how to run the Orion pirate ship and they validated every last move I made as I burned the engines out - close in, blast, zip out -- I killed command cruisers, etc. When a pirate cruiser could trash the hell out of a couple starfleet command cruisers at one fight, we muttered and closed it down.
The first computer game I played was on an old Cado 20/24 mini computer we were programming on. Star Trek - it was ascii based character models and we tinkered with the code base to get it balanced decently. I still remember muttering at that SOB in the romulan warbird suddenly popping up and trashing my ship in one 30x30 battle... 
As for EVE - it's changing a lot faster than before. Mass changes to all the ships with the tieracide stuff. That changes the old value retention quite a bit so some of the things I used to say may not fit as well anymore but it is still quite possible to keep going without investing large chunks of time in-game. |

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
148
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Posted - 2013.04.24 06:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sodium Canine wrote:Any of you geezers ever play any of the old Avalon Hill board games? I used to have quite a collection of them when I was a kid. I miss them sometimes-
A group of my friends loved Titan. I was always a bit more partial towards Civilization.
Steve Jackson Games are fun too and I agree with a bunch listed above.
Played a ton of Cosmic Encounters as well.
I believe the average age of gamers has been going up as a whole, although Eve players do tend to be on the older side. |

Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
29
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Posted - 2013.04.24 06:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
OP is definately not alone. Im 29, and EVE is the only game I feel young while playing. Thank you old farts..  |

Marcus Gord
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
5829
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Posted - 2013.04.24 08:44:00 -
[49] - Quote
I'll be 23 later this year. I'm usually the youngest person in any channel I join. I do remember the old modem noise though. First console was a Sega Megadrive....still got it. somewhere. You can't take the sky from me |

Snaggletooth Slackjaw
Uchusen Technologies
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 08:56:00 -
[50] - Quote
This thread has cheered me up no end.......being 20 - 25 years older than almost everyone else in my corp makes me feel like "Mother Hen" sometimes.
Some real blasts from my past coming up here too. Titan, Car Wars......I still hanker for "Lunar Jet Man" or "Starglider" from my ZX Spectrum days on occasion. Personnel Manager for Uchusen Technologies. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1151
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Posted - 2013.04.24 08:59:00 -
[51] - Quote
I did not start to play Eve (on my other character) until I was in my early 50s.
Before then, work was too demanding as was getting our daughters to university etc.
Now I am in my late 50s I find I have more time to enjoy Eve.
I do not do anything 'fancy' in Eve, just potter around trying different aspects of the game every now and again.
Unlike some of the other older players here, my only gaming experience before Eve was a couple of goes playing pong (I think it was called) in the early 70s. This is not a signature. |

Deaconn Frostt
Li3's Electric Cucumber Li3 Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.24 11:10:00 -
[52] - Quote
I'm 27 years old and my occupation is an underground miner on a fly in fly out roster so in actual fact this game suits me quite well as while I'm away I can sett a long skill in the training queue and if its not done when I come home I take it out and do short skills while I'm home.
While I am home its much of a time share system have to fit family, friends, hobbies and eve in somewhere and so far it hasn't been to bad mind you I've only been playing for 2 months. |

Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
268
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Posted - 2013.04.24 11:59:00 -
[53] - Quote
Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
Compared to the gaming generation I think I am considered "old" with mid-30. Yes, I have a life and cannot plan it around EVE. But I am part of a great corp which is part of a great alliance and we have many dedicated man and women to split tasks. Some have more time, they do more (and earn more ofc), others not.
So my advice to you is: Find a good bunch of people who keep things running when you're off - but be available when they really need you, if possible.
www.facebook.com/RazorAlliance |

Karn Dulake
Scared miners Ltd
1131
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:14:00 -
[54] - Quote
Chylogos wrote: Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days...
Lols Kids
Anyone remember when Manic Miner was the hot game to have
ALSO i paid -ú150 of half a meg of memory in 1986 so i could play Dungeon master on my Amiga and that was when -ú150 was a lot of money I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
52
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:19:00 -
[55] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:... I got my first computer at the age of 11 ... See, you're not all that old. At 11, I was still breathing the outdoor air, riding my bike, playing baseball. There was only one company in town big enough to even have a computer, and it was in a big glass room next to a soundproof room full of keypunch girls.
When I was 21 and in the Navy, I traded a 10-speed Schwinn (back when both terms meant something) for an almost-new TRS-80 Model I Level I 4k with cassette player. My favorite program was the T-Bug debugger. I went through all the upgrades - to Level II 16k, expansion interface 48k, disk drive, RS-232 and modem, Orchestra-80 synthesizer. Then I made the switch to Heathkit and CP/M. H-8, H-89, a combination 8" floppy, 8" 5MB (yes megabyte) hard drive. That phase lasted until the IBM clones came out.
I miss the days when you could actually understand the parts in a computer, and the programs that run on it. Software that was often written by just one guy. Writing code that seemed useful at the time. I miss the ability to concentrate on a problem all night long on pizza and caffeine, and still function the next day. I miss being the guy doing the work instead of the guy managing the guys doing the work. But I don't think I'd want to trade places with an 11 year old today.
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Zedzed Nyne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:33:00 -
[56] - Quote
Snaggletooth Slackjaw wrote:This thread has cheered me up no end.......being 20 - 25 years older than almost everyone else in my corp makes me feel like "Mother Hen" sometimes.
Some real blasts from my past coming up here too. Titan, Car Wars......I still hanker for "Lunar Jet Man" or "Starglider" from my ZX Spectrum days on occasion.
'Luner Jet Man' ... happy days! |

Zedzed Nyne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:35:00 -
[57] - Quote
Karn Dulake wrote:Chylogos wrote: Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days...
Anyone remember when Manic Miner was the hot game to have
Wasn't that Jet Set Willy? |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
126
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:22:00 -
[58] - Quote
Zedzed Nyne wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:Chylogos wrote: Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days...
Anyone remember when Manic Miner was the hot game to have Wasn't that Jet Set Willy?
Pah to your new-fangled graphical games 
Actually I think EVE has it pretty sorted for most age groups to be able to play:
- When you're young with lots of free time you can go mad earning isk in game
- When you're older with little free time you can spend a couple of minutes' pay to buy plex
And it's sure a hell of a lot easier to play than a 10 player game of Star Fleet Battles  |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1425
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:26:00 -
[59] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Back in my day, we thought Space Invaders was cutting edge and played it long enough to have wrist trouble.
Before that, there was Pong, and the occasional joy of scrolling curse words all over a screen on a Commodore Pet.
If you wanted to send an email, you have to put a huge letter E in an envelope and mail it. Then you had to fend off the dinosaurs that camped the mailboxes. They always camped the mailboxes. We didn't have no warp to zero either. Up hill. Both ways. In the snow. Barefoot.
 Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
139
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:if only to put your brain somewhere else for a few hours each week.
Pretty much this.
There is a lot you can do in eve, some of those activities don't take a whole lot of real life time. Take a look at this picture: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ Maybe it can give you inspiration.
Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |

Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
114
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:45:00 -
[61] - Quote
HA!
I'm 41. I often AM the oldest dude in any given fleet. I'm often being FC'd by people that are literally half my age.
I consider it a serious selling point in Eve that many of the players are a bit older than your average WoW or CoD fan.
I've flown with 60+ year old grandfathers in this game...and grandfathers tend not to get all drama-llama over internet spaceships. Refreshing. The younger guys I fly with, to a one, seem a different breed (well, other than fleet chat **** links) than the twenty-somethings that us old-timers like to shake our fists at and yell to keep off the lawn.
Whippersnappers, the lot of ya. |

Vintrox Shi
VM Mining and Salvage
1
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:54:00 -
[62] - Quote
I'm in the same boat as a lot of folks here. Work a lot with obligations outside of that. I usually play when I'm doing homework (mining allows for little interaction).
I'm not sure about definition of old but I definitely miss the days of playing Privateer and thinking how awesome it was to be able to go do almost anything. I missed out on some of the games you guys are mentioning as I didn't get into computers and computer games until the late 80's early 90's just as video games started their evolution. That was when I started to learn about batch scripts so I could run one command to get my games up and running (ie memmaker).
Alright, I'm off to go kick some dirt in someone's lawn. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1643
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:57:00 -
[63] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:I'm in the "older" bracket, too. I co-own and operate a small company, employing 25 to 30 people (summer students make the number fluctuate) and I deal with their issues as well as anything on the "family side".
Like any good game, EVE keeps me sane.
So, the only I advice I can offer: Keep playing now and then, if only to put your brain somewhere else for a few hours each week.
Amen, between my real life job dealing with crazy people and then having to deal with crazy people at home, if I couldn't' take my frustrations out on a few hundred Sansha/Blood/Angel/whatever ships (or occasionally, a couple of Goons lol) per night, I might be in a straight jacket right now.
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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
186
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:57:00 -
[64] - Quote
Another over 40 pilot checking in. Most days EVE is just an expensive chat channel that I just can't leave but I love the community surrounding it. -á |

Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
877
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:01:00 -
[65] - Quote
At first I thought this topic was going to be about how hard it is to hit the tiny sliver of an overheat button during a fight.
I am in the same boat as op and want to give my support to this topic. No matter what he does I hope ccp keeps some options open in game for people who just want to play eve and aren't necessarilly interested spending huge amounts of time in game. And yes keeping up with friendships takes time in or out of game. So requiring people to build social connections in game makes eve much more time consuming - and takes from time people could be building social connections outside of eve.
For me eve is a tv alternative when I go home, I refuse to look at it as a job. I do low sec solo pvp and have been having a blast lately.
I used to do faction war but it became more high maintenance with station lockouts. You spend more time reshipping and moving stuff versus fighting. Also the fighting has become much more focused on just a few systems where you need fleets and fleets take even more time per quality fight. I understand some faction war corps even require everyone to do one defensive plex per day.
Unfortunately there seems to be allot of eve players who have too much time on their hands supporting the trend to making eve higher maintenance. I have actually been called lazy by some eve players, because I do not spend more time playing this computer game. Just think about that a second.
Well I hope more normal people take a bit of time to speak out about keeping eve a possibility (at least in some capacities) for people who can't dedicate their lives to it. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1425
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
Vintrox Shi wrote:I'm in the same boat as a lot of folks here. Work a lot with obligations outside of that. I usually play when I'm doing homework (mining allows for little interaction).
I'm not sure about definition of old but I definitely miss the days of playing Privateer and thinking how awesome it was to be able to go do almost anything. I missed out on some of the games you guys are mentioning as I didn't get into computers and computer games until the late 80's early 90's just as video games started their evolution. That was when I started to learn about batch scripts so I could run one command to get my games up and running (ie memmaker).
Alright, I'm off to go kick some dirt in someone's lawn. Privateer. Gah.. Yet another blast from the past. I'm begining to wonder when I've ever slept? Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1643
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:05:00 -
[67] - Quote
Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
EVE is a hobby like many others. If you like your hobby you make time for it and your signifigant others helps you do that (as you help them have a hobby they can use to de-stress as well).
Ultimately, it's about life choices, I'm 38 and I've got old college buddies who make way more than I do but never ever have time for anything, most of them have to try to incorporate relaxing activities into their jobs (like abusing the hell out of their travel accounts, taking clients to strip clubs etc etc). Some of them keep wanting me to quit my crappy/dangerous government job and come live the high life with them. But for all the downsides of my job, I get actual OFF time to spend with family and pursue my hobbies (of which EVE is one, the others involve paint balls, climbing gear and beer lol).
If you've made life choices inconstant with your hobbies, just find a new way to do your hobbies.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1424
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:12:00 -
[68] - Quote
RL>EVE, every time.
Play when you want and do whatever, but don't let Eve interfere with your real life. Eve can be a part of your routine, but it doesn't HAVE to be nor should your routine be molded to fit around making time to play it. It's a game.
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Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
42 here with a wife and kids.
My grandmother had the old Atari. No, not the 2600, the first one. When we would go there, my brother and I would play the COMBAT cartridge all day shooting each other in TANK and BIPLANE. Oh , the memories!
My friend had a C64 and my first system when i was 17 was the Amiga 500. Then onto a 486SX33 with no cd-rom.
I've been listening to all the computer games everyone played but my first ever foray into space-based stuff was the game called Starfleet Battles. You used to have a space map that covered the whole dining table and little lead ships on stands. You had to mark your sheet when you were hit etc. I personally used to play the Tholians. After that, it was onto the computer to play Elite, Wing Commander etc. Then i played FPS for many years until someone got me into EvE. 5-6 years on and i am still here.
I've done the mission, construction, pirate and null-sec thing. Had a lot of fun, but null is hard work if you are in any senior position. Lots of work and a pretty thankless task as a lot of ppl in the Alliance don't know....or even care......what you do as long as they are making money and their needs are met. "When are we getting the station upgrade, where is the jump-bridge?" gimme gimme gimme, mine mine mine etc etc. I spent too much time at the computer dealing with one clown to the next that i hardly got to actually play the game in a ship sense. Then it got to needing to set my alarm clock to be at certain "important" things like station timers. That's when i left. Because the important thing to me was my family. I wasn't the most alive person when i had to get up at 2am for something that was supposed to take and hour went on for 3 or until dawn. So i walked away from it a while back and spent more family time. Now that i am coming back I will probably go back to multi-box piracy or look for a small group of senior guys where i can just play the game again for what it is supposed to be, an enjoyable break from real life.
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Deimos Ovaert
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:21:00 -
[70] - Quote
Anslo wrote:RL>EVE, every time.
Play when you want and do whatever, but don't let Eve interfere with your real life. Eve can be a part of your routine, but it doesn't HAVE to be nor should your routine be molded to fit around making time to play it. It's a game.
I think that us that are over 40 (maybe that includes you?) with families, jobs/businesses are keenly aware of this fact. It's likely one of the draws to us as we only have sporadic or limited play time and with EVE a week, month, quarter off doesn't mean we've fallen behind outside of some twitch skills refreshing. |

Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
174
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:33:00 -
[71] - Quote
while not as old as many in this thread, i've got plenty of responsibility including; career, family and other hobbies. one of the reasons i love this game is because you can set your play style to fit your RL time constraints. a lot of industry tasks can be structured around a busy schedule, not to mention, i can work on spreadsheets in my spare time at the office. and when more time is available, i can break out some ships and go exploring. |

Aarin Wrath
Dominion Strategic
12
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:51:00 -
[72] - Quote
Chylogos wrote: Anyone remember the BBS game Trade Wars: 2002?
Ah, the good ol' days...
Oh god yes.  Just had a flash back of the old ASCII ship attack animations! One of the things I love about EVE is that it reminds me of Trade Wars a little.
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Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
55
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:23:00 -
[73] - Quote
When I heard the next EVE expansion was called Odyssey, I remembered that after seeing the commercial Pong arcade game, my family bought one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnavox_Odyssey
When you got tired of playing tennis, you put a colored plastic film over the screen and called it hockey.
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Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
271
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:26:00 -
[74] - Quote
I have met quite some old players here in EVE, I m quite young but its usual to see people on the 40s to 60s age range on the corps I have been or friends I have. so you are certainly not alone at all. |

Shawnm339
Apex Overplayed Coalition Nulli Legio
75
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:26:00 -
[75] - Quote
38 year old own my business so I'm quite lucky in that I can actually play when I like , I remember my first zx spectrum and I actually learned to programme through magazines that my dad subsrcibed to the annoying thing was saving up all the issues typing out the whole thing and then it didn't work because some nerdbert at the magazine had made a typo!!
I remember star wars the arcade game and the following return of the jedi as very early loves of mine and I guess I've always had a soft spot for space games
I tell kids about dial up now and they're like 'WHAT you cant make phone calls at the same time!!'
Anyway what times bingo on? |

Vintrox Shi
VM Mining and Salvage
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:37:00 -
[76] - Quote
Shawnm339 wrote:
I tell kids about dial up now and they're like 'WHAT you cant make phone calls at the same time!!'
This reminds me of when wireless first came out. God help the person who called me in the middle of my game and dropped my wireless network because the phone was on the same frequency as the router.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1425
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:48:00 -
[77] - Quote
Deimos Ovaert wrote:Anslo wrote:RL>EVE, every time.
Play when you want and do whatever, but don't let Eve interfere with your real life. Eve can be a part of your routine, but it doesn't HAVE to be nor should your routine be molded to fit around making time to play it. It's a game. I think that us that are over 40 (maybe that includes you?) with families, jobs/businesses are keenly aware of this fact. It's likely one of the draws to us as we only have sporadic or limited play time and with EVE a week, month, quarter off doesn't mean we've fallen behind outside of some twitch skills refreshing.
Heh I'm actually a good bit younger. I just drilled this fact into my head when I got out of college. A lot of people my age don't and they end up in trouble at work for it.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1645
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:49:00 -
[78] - Quote
Shawnm339 wrote:
Anyway what times bingo on?
After Maude but before Hogan's Heros.
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1342
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:32:00 -
[79] - Quote
Zedzed Nyne wrote:I love playing EVE. I keep quitting but, in the words of Al Pacino, "Just when I think I've escaped, it pulls me back in". (Or something like that.) Trouble is, as a reasonably senior Exec in a global Corp in 'real life' - and having a young family and other 'real' responsibilities that middle-age brings - I don't have a great deal of spare time - and I certainly can't plan it around EVE.
Question: Am I alone in this? Is there anyone else who is in the same situation and wants to share game advice? If not, I'll just sail off into the sunset and leave New Eden for the under-[insert key demographic here].
Thank you for listening.
Although I doubt I fit into the "older" bracket. I have found myself in a good situation in Eve whereby I am in my own corp with a few close Eve Players that I trust, and I have multiple char channels devoted to staying in touch with other like minded players, so when I log on I just ask in one of those channels... "Anyone roaming?"
If the answer to that question is no, I just jump in a PvP ship anyway and go look for a few fights and then ask if anyone wants to join me. I've done a fair amount of FCing, so it's easy to get a fleet together. I just tell people I am out looking for trouble and people come join me. That's how my fleets generally start.
I take breaks from Eve from time to time. I've spent a large amount of time playing Warframe recently. But I always come back to Eve. And the moral is, you don't need to devote a huge amount of time to Eve to get enjoyment out of it. Having lots of ISK is a secondary concern that actually does take a lot of time or commitment (not always, but mostly).
I think I am ranting, so I will cut to the chase. For me, what it comes down to, is having people who trust me and are willing to join me in what I am doing. That way, I just log on, ask if anyone wants to join me and usually someone does. Being in a big friendly corp helps a lot, but they need to know you and trust you. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Doctor Ape MD
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
I know this is totally off-topic, but for those of you who said you loved the old Avalon Hill games, boardgames (all types) have been having something of a renaissance for the past decade or so. Fun thing to do with your family, and there are some excellent space games out there for those into spaceships (there is even an Eve branded boardgame, though I have never played it). I highly recommend boardgamegeek (website) for anyone interested. I could even recommend a few if anyone wanted to PM about them.
Anyway to stay somewhat on topic, I'm with you OP. I'm not as old as some in this thread, but I'm close enough and recently became a dad, so my free time has pretty much gone to nothing. This is one thing I like about Eve, even if I have no free time and have to semi-afk all of the time (diapers, feedings, whatever), I can always find SOMETHING constructive to do, even if it is just park in front of a rock and shoot it for a few hours. |

Armtoe
Shadowland Rangers Eternal Syndicate
250
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:43:00 -
[81] - Quote
Well old is relative - I certainly dont feel all that old. On the other hand, I remember when pong was the hot game. The way I see it, everyone is entitled to their hobbies. Some folk play golf, others fish. I play eve (and fish in the season). No matter what your hobby there are folk who become obsessive, letting it take over their lives to the exclusion of other things, which of course does not make for a healthy well rounded individual. As long as your hobby doesnt take over your life to the exclusion of your family and work obligations then there is nothing wrong with having a little down time and fun. |

GreenSeed
272
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:53:00 -
[82] - Quote
eve is not a game, its a hobby. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8112
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Posted - 2013.04.24 21:28:00 -
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Manny Moons wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:... I got my first computer at the age of 11 ... See, you're not all that old. At 11, I was still breathing the outdoor air, riding my bike, playing baseball. There was only one company in town big enough to even have a computer, and it was in a big glass room next to a soundproof room full of keypunch girls. When I was 21 and in the Navy, I traded a 10-speed Schwinn (back when both terms meant something) for an almost-new TRS-80 Model I Level I 4k with cassette player. My favorite program was the T-Bug debugger. I went through all the upgrades - to Level II 16k, expansion interface 48k, disk drive, RS-232 and modem, Orchestra-80 synthesizer. Then I made the switch to Heathkit and CP/M. H-8, H-89, a combination 8" floppy, 8" 5MB (yes megabyte) hard drive. That phase lasted until the IBM clones came out. I miss the days when you could actually understand the parts in a computer, and the programs that run on it. Software that was often written by just one guy. Writing code that seemed useful at the time. I miss the ability to concentrate on a problem all night long on pizza and caffeine, and still function the next day. I miss being the guy doing the work instead of the guy managing the guys doing the work. But I don't think I'd want to trade places with an 11 year old today. Damn you old I wasn't far behind you though, TRS-80 was around about '77. Got my first in '82, a ZX-81 , used my birthday money and Xmas money to pay for it, I was still outside, sucking at football (soccer for you furriners), excelling at rugby, wrecking my bikes on jumps and forest track, thinking girls were icky etc. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

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Posted - 2013.04.24 22:26:00 -
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No - you are not.
I am in a nearly identical situation as you plus I just started having an affair.
It's hard to find time to play, and when you do play, you need to accomplish as much as you can as soon as possible. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
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