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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:31:00 -
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Recently we added the talents of a fantasic modeler, his name is Shade. With him as part of our team we are now able to create shots in the movie that were not previously possible.
Early on we really wanted to show off the scale difference between ship classes but to do that we needed to get real close to the battleship hulls and of course when we did the mesh detail and textures just didn't hold up. After all these are game models and weren't built for this sort of presentation. In order for frigs to fly along the hulls of these massive battleships a lot more detail was needed than what we had to work with using the game models. As a result we are creating our own high detail battleship models. Here are the first four models. We decided to show these models off without the textures to give everyone a sense of the mesh detail. Enjoy!
Apoc
Apoc Detail
Tempest
Tempest Detail
Scorp
Scorp Detail
Mega
Mega Detail
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:34:00 -
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o.o;;;
i'd actually want to fly Tempest if it looked like that ;.;
purrrrrty details. now give it 16k x 16k resolution textures to match ;o~~
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Nakatre Read
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:35:00 -
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Very very impressive, great work!
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:37:00 -
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i NEED a tempest like that
now
plz
ta
cAKe
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Brian Royer
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:38:00 -
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Simply... incredible.
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reaTh
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:39:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: bUBbLeS
i NEED a tempest like that
now
plz
ta
cAKe
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:41:00 -
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Oh.
My.
God.
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Lee N
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:42:00 -
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Impressive modelling there..
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Caanan
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:43:00 -
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very very nice
tempest looks almost too good
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:43:00 -
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Kaemonn
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:44:00 -
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Very Impressive.
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:44:00 -
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/me faints
i... simply cannot... wait... for this movie... any longer...
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:44:00 -
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HOLY ******* ****!
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
HOLY ******* ****!
^^^^
MY NAME IS VERONE OF SNIGG, AND I'M GOING TO KILL YOU TILL YOU DIE FROM IT! |
Yith Solarius
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:46:00 -
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Cricky
forget the video, get those models in the game right now!
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Chrizto
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:49:00 -
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Wow! So much love.
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Elise Masutra
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:50:00 -
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you make us even more "release it now" 
indeed very impressive!!! CCP should send some big, and i mean BIG-as-a-huuuuge-veldspar-asteroid ISK your way and take your movie as advertising when it's finished.
really looking foreward to the finished movie. any ETA?
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Ryushe
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:52:00 -
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Shade, I adores you, damn nice work.
Any chance of getting nice high-res screenies of those ships when they are textured? :)
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Dragon Sworn
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:54:00 -
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Very very very nice
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Akan
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:01:00 -
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amazing work, keep it on 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:02:00 -
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meh. still doesnt do it for me for some reason.
/emote loves the real footage
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:03:00 -
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O_O
*awe*
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Redblade
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:07:00 -
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I'll take one of each ingame
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Porro
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:08:00 -
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Im a nub at 3d modelling, just the dark patches on the thron, some smoothing group boo'boo's? Just wondering 
Very nice work though shame eve doesnt have a custom model following, or does it?
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Soulie
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:08:00 -
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good job! wish my bship had those fine details
"What you do in life goes on in eternity"
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Peter Armstrong
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:09:00 -
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Nice work 
'Invictus maneo' Remain unvanquished |
Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:12:00 -
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awesome, just awesome
Killboard.co.uk |
Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:16:00 -
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Daaaaamn...
That's some really badass work. Like the others, I especially like the way the tempest appears. The one in-game looks pretty good, but its always had a slightly "unfinished" edge to it. It's be really sweet if CCP updated the model to match the one you just posted.
-Wrayeth
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:19:00 -
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Wow, those are very impressive! Love the Megathron and the little missile bays on the scorp!
Originally by: James Lyrus
Complaining about PvP & Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper. |
joefishy
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:26:00 -
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w00t , well played very nice models
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Tiki Rar
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:39:00 -
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*Faints*
Whats the poly count on those models?
Father of the BumpageddonÖ
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:04:00 -
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Currently:
Apoc - ~103k
Temp - ~75k
Mega - ~55k
Scorp - ~34k
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:08:00 -
[33]
OK SERIOUSLY. Where and when can I order my 1/2000 scale plastic model of Apocalypse, Megathron, Raven, and Tempest?
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:15:00 -
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!!
UNGGGGHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh....
..Whew.
Evol have not only beaten EVE, they've beaten CCP. One day molle is going to go up to hilmar and say "get off our land!" 
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Adam C
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:16:00 -
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Incredible.
Now make me a Homeworld II: Mod.
Kind Regards
This is what a forum monster looks like. He has a Red Bike!---->
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Dreez on 26/09/2005 22:23:18
. I am... impressed to say the least, and take your
time doing the movie - cuz when it gets released... ohh my.
/Edit: I noticed that the gunemplacements on the Apoc aint
"correct", care to explain ?. Not being a critic but...
I might have ATUK in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:20:00 -
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
!!
UNGGGGHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh....
..Whew.
Evol have not only beaten EVE, they've beaten CCP. One day molle is going to go up to hilmar and say "get off our land!"
he already did
but hilmar distracted him with a realy shiny 9th century icelandic throwing spoon
i'm waiting for mollle to realise he's been had...
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:37:00 -
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Very nice. That model really makes me wish I flew a Tempest.
Is the Megathron model not quite finished yet? I noticed there are no turrets.
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
Edited by: Dreez on 26/09/2005 22:23:18
. I am... impressed to say the least, and take your
time doing the movie - cuz when it gets released... ohh my.
/Edit: I noticed that the gunemplacements on the Apoc aint
"correct", care to explain ?. Not being a critic but...
The models are WIP. One of the last things we will do is compare these models with the game models to make sure we stay as true to the game as possible. Of course we reserve the right to use our rather large artistic license. Good catch though
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
HOLY ******* ****!
QFT
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Zond 3
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Posted - 2005.09.26 23:11:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Biff Steel
Recently we added the talents of a fantasic modeler, his name is Shade. With him as part of our team we are now able to create shots in the movie that were not previously possible.
Early on we really wanted to show off the scale difference between ship classes but to do that we needed to get real close to the battleship hulls and of course when we did the mesh detail and textures just didn't hold up. After all these are game models and weren't built for this sort of presentation. In order for frigs to fly along the hulls of these massive battleships a lot more detail was needed than what we had to work with using the game models. As a result we are creating our own high detail battleship models. Here are the first four models. We decided to show these models off without the textures to give everyone a sense of the mesh detail. Enjoy!
Apoc
Apoc Detail
Tempest
Tempest Detail
Scorp
Scorp Detail
Mega
Mega Detail
www.project-shadowlands.com shows off more of Shades work. Class stuff! |
Aoun
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Posted - 2005.09.26 23:46:00 -
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Pr0
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.09.27 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Muthsera on 27/09/2005 00:26:27
Hey.. mercedes called. They want it's front back.
That mega is clearly a steal from SLK.
Or maybe it was Transformers... lol
Other than that. Very impressive. (do I hear an ecco?)
SoonÖ |
Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.09.27 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: bUBbLeS
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
!!
UNGGGGHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh....
..Whew.
Evol have not only beaten EVE, they've beaten CCP. One day molle is going to go up to hilmar and say "get off our land!"
he already did
but hilmar distracted him with a realy shiny 9th century icelandic throwing spoon
i'm waiting for mollle to realise he's been had...
hahahahaha....
SoonÖ |
Lord Zidius
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Posted - 2005.09.27 00:45:00 -
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Now that is impressive!!!!!!
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.09.27 00:51:00 -
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Is this "Shade" the same shade in game who flies with [CLS] ?
Also, his site rocks 
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:34:00 -
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"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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algorythm
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: algorythm on 27/09/2005 01:52:20
Pure art based on real models! Great work indeed!
CCP please swap my tempest for one like these!
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MessiahOfLight
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: MessiahOfLight on 27/09/2005 01:52:32
Wow nice work there ;)
I think i saw Screens of that Apoc as well as several other Ships on the Scifi-Meshes Froums some time ago ... they are VERY awesome. He wanted to make a Fan-Film of his own, he is a really good guy to have for this project. Thats for shure.
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Helpdesk
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Posted - 2005.09.27 02:13:00 -
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incredible. Looking very much forward to this vid, will be a big hit no doubt... probably even outside EVE.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.27 03:17:00 -
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11/10
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Mesiah Scuro
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Posted - 2005.09.27 03:52:00 -
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SWEET ASS, I want those ingame. Now! :o
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NoLock LetsNegociate
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Posted - 2005.09.27 04:33:00 -
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Don't be stupid.
Several 30k to 100k polygons groups is impossible to animate in live.
Unless you want somethin' like a cray calculator in your livingroom...
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oDDiTy V2
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Posted - 2005.09.27 04:41:00 -
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Beautiful work, absolutely beautiful.
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.09.27 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: NoLock LetsNegociate
Don't be stupid.
Several 30k to 100k polygons groups is impossible to animate in live.
Unless you want somethin' like a cray calculator in your livingroom...
Been there done that. FYI it's not impossible. 
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.09.27 05:31:00 -
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Awesome modeling there..
Heck CCP should hire this guy to model the damn Tempest...
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.09.27 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Biff Steel
Originally by: NoLock LetsNegociate
Don't be stupid.
Several 30k to 100k polygons groups is impossible to animate in live.
Unless you want somethin' like a cray calculator in your livingroom...
Been there done that. FYI it's not impossible.
crayola makes calculators now?!?
joking btw
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Lanu
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Posted - 2005.09.27 05:49:00 -
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Could some1 please host this on eve-files ( if this is allowed by evol/biff steel ofcourse ) I cant acces the current host.. it gives me a time-out 
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Ztone Harvestor
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Posted - 2005.09.27 06:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ztone Harvestor on 27/09/2005 06:06:01
They're nice... But you can't just diss CCP for not having models like this ingame. You guys have to remember that eve is running on a 5+ (I think) year old game engine, and that it'd lag like all hell if models with this high of polygon-counts were part of the game.
I can only imagine rendering a movie with such models (and oh, god, once textured!) would take quite a while. I definitely wouldn't want to be doing this for nothing :x
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.09.27 07:02:00 -
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nice The Finish movie gonna be awesome
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Simon Illian
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Posted - 2005.09.27 08:49:00 -
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just
it's awesome !!!
/me wait for the movies ... event more than before !!!!
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2005.09.27 08:55:00 -
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I wish CCP would update these models in game. I don't think high poly models are a performance problem, because some of the newer ships like the Ferox are much higher poly count than older ships, but are in game already without problems.
"Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory,
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Logan Xerxes
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Posted - 2005.09.27 08:56:00 -
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That scorp looks BAD ASS!!! And the tempest? oh man...
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.09.27 10:02:00 -
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Nice.
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Lyticus
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Posted - 2005.09.27 14:48:00 -
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Wow, thats incredible, I can't wait to see how this is going to turn out. I would love for a high-definition pack for EVE so we could get this kind of detail on the ships, I do love the idea of an interceptor soaring between the tempest's 'wings' and doing bombing runs like the ones you see in star wars, man that would be awesome.
Keep up the fantastic work.
- Lyticus
Resident Aussie Bloke
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.09.27 15:34:00 -
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Im a graphical artist and even I wet my pants at seeing those.
Superb work and cant wait to see more!
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Suze'Rain
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Posted - 2005.09.27 15:42:00 -
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I hate you.
I haven't got a single point on those models that I can criticise at all.
I can count the number of models that I've complimented like that on the fingers of one hand before... and you just manage to throw out four of the damn things in one fell swoop.
you'll have to give us all an ETA for the finished peice when it's progressed enough.
S.
I would offer my skills in texturing, but I'm only a 3DS MAx user, not a maya artist *grumbles*
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.09.27 16:18:00 -
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I may be thinking about a different movie but wasn't there a Dominix in there?
If not how much isk to put a Dominix in?
Yes I've been known to Target, Sling and serve up large portions of fecal matter.
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Garia666
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:06:00 -
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They should offer him ajob..
Its better then ccp makes em
Job weldone
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Vathar
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:23:00 -
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Wonderful, but isn't a Tempest supposed to mount 6 turrets ?
Apart from this, don't post stuff like this here or my keyboard will die from a short-circuit coz I've been drooling on it for too long !!
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JoKane
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:28:00 -
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Do you get anything as payment of doing this work or is this just for your own personal enjoyment on your sparetime? It must take hell of a lot of hours to complete a project like this. Does the other ppl involved play EVE also, and what do you guys do for a living?
Oh btw, the models looks great! Supberb work.
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Mary Poppy
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Posted - 2005.09.27 17:42:00 -
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no raven ? , why not coz raven is a common ship in eve and very popular too
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Akan
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mary Poppy
no raven ? , why not coz raven is a common ship in eve and very popular too
or maybe he hasnt already done all models
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:25:00 -
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simply jaw dropping
ATUK | The 5
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:34:00 -
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WOW!!!
They look fantastic! Damn good work!
Eve Blacklight Style
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:35:00 -
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Excellent work, I can't wait to see the finished article!
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:58:00 -
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damn thats nice work o_O
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Teblin
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Posted - 2005.09.27 19:03:00 -
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:o
Teblin likey.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.27 19:43:00 -
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Megathron...so sexy...*faints*
*looks for dark corner to be alone with pictures*
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:49:00 -
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Marry Me. Twice.
Wow.
http://omerta.killboard.net
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.09.27 21:06:00 -
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Damn nice
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Saqara
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Posted - 2005.09.27 23:51:00 -
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Nice work and oh ya the Temest dose have 6 turrets BUT it also has 4 Missle slots so He could make it have 5 guns and still have a missle launche onboard
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Saqara
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Posted - 2005.09.27 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lyticus
Wow, thats incredible, I can't wait to see how this is going to turn out. I would love for a high-definition pack for EVE so we could get this kind of detail on the ships, I do love the idea of an interceptor soaring between the tempest's 'wings' and doing bombing runs like the ones you see in star wars, man that would be awesome.
Keep up the fantastic work.
- Lyticus
Where did you find this?
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Ztone Harvestor
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Posted - 2005.09.28 02:55:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Saqara
Originally by: Lyticus
Wow, thats incredible, I can't wait to see how this is going to turn out. I would love for a high-definition pack for EVE so we could get this kind of detail on the ships, I do love the idea of an interceptor soaring between the tempest's 'wings' and doing bombing runs like the ones you see in star wars, man that would be awesome.
Keep up the fantastic work.
- Lyticus
Where did you find this?
He's saying that'd be awesome to have... read it over
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.09.28 06:20:00 -
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Slight nitpick: the Apoc does not have turret hardpoints on the aft quarter.....
But dayum....cant stop gazing in awe....
Not your average Amarrian Loyalist....
CEO - The Aeternus Crusade |
Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.09.28 07:37:00 -
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Realy nice modelling there.. can'T wait for the video!!
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Mr Stargate
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Posted - 2005.09.28 08:08:00 -
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OMG wow !?
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Slipknot Korn
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Posted - 2005.09.28 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
HOLY ******* ****!
quoted for what i thought when i saw the pics... very impressive
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.09.28 15:01:00 -
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MY EYES! IT STINGS!
Fekkin razor sharp stuff dude! Hat's off to Shade!
Now when can we see trailer #2? 
Cheers,
LOWA
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Teldar Siesta
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Posted - 2005.09.28 15:40:00 -
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now that's impressive
can't wait for the vid...
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lowa
MY EYES! IT STINGS!
Fekkin razor sharp stuff dude! Hat's off to Shade!
Now when can we see trailer #2?
Cheers,
LOWA
We'll be releasing a quick little trailer during fanfest this year. We'll then decide if we will release the trailer to the forums after fanfest.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Biff Steel
We'll be releasing a quick little trailer during fanfest this year. We'll then decide if we will release the trailer to the forums after fanfest.
Bah! Missing out on FF (again!) but on the other hand I will be zipping free drinks
in the sun at a very nice hotel in Egypt instead. Have fun on that freezin dead rock...
I expect to see it on the forums upon my return! Or else...
/LOWA
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shooting dutchman
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Posted - 2005.09.28 16:48:00 -
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really nice guys,
how long did it took to make those models I'm wondering.
anywayz I can't wait for the new video
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Cilppiz
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Posted - 2005.09.28 18:46:00 -
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Whoa, nice! Now we just need CCP to recruit your modellers and upgrade the ones we have in game
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Windknight
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Posted - 2005.09.28 19:21:00 -
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Wow...just.......wow!
I would have never thought that the ships could be replicated...even fracking better than CCP
I can't wait for it to be complete
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2005.09.28 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: CptEagle on 28/09/2005 19:27:38
Thats hot! I love how you've given them more details. Puts my Scorp WIP to shame. :(
Will these fine models be released so other peoples can have fun with them?
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:17:00 -
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I'd like to make a quick little comment about all the posts in this thread that deal with CCP. First off please don't compare the work in this movie with CCP's work in a game, it's like comparing apples to oranges, and it's useless. CCP IS the reason this movie is being made. Everyone of us working on this movie are subscribers to the game and have been for a long time. This game has given us incredible inspiration and the will to try to pull off such a huge goal.
Second, reproducing model concepts is one thing, coming up with the original design concepts for these ships is much different and far more difficult. I'm not insulting Shades ability because I've seen some of his original model concepts and they are just as good if not better than anything your seeing here in this thread, but I'm sure he would say the same thing in regards to the two skills.
We are making this movie because we love what CCP has given us in a game and the community that supports it. Bashing CCP to compliment us hurts and is unwanted.
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Posted - 2005.09.28 21:19:00 -
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Heh, the worst looking ships ingame are made the best looking here: The apoc looks like complete ship, and the tempest looks like a ship!
Awesome details on the scorp too. The close-up on the mega became my new wallpaper...
Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2005.09.29 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Spartan III on 29/09/2005 13:01:44
Hey I wonder what the CCP official modelers think of this...
*Back at CCP the official modelers hide in closets and under there desks shaking and scared that the day will come when Mr. CCP sees the EVOL teams models...*
Oh well they probably shouldn't lose sleep or eve-time over it.
2 other things... You people shouldn't just be giving all the credit to "him" as they are a whole team and the models wouldn't exist without all of "them"
1 last thing... Hey biff ever thought about having a 1 mill view fee for the two weeks of viewing the episodes when they come out? Thousands of people will want to see the movies and if it was like 1 mill for each episode (as I am guessing you will not release them all at once) then you could split it between your team and make a few bill. And all the noobs that don't have a mill to spare can just wait 2 weeks to view it.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.29 13:21:00 -
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If you look into Shades site there's more Eve art including short clips.
You can also see that he currently isn't employed with any graphical jobs, and his website (and this project) would just be to add to his profile.
Shade: Keep up the work man, amazing models and you'll get noticed for projects like this (I hope. Because it's awesome work).
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RufioPan
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Posted - 2005.09.29 20:56:00 -
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Shade: Great modelling work, but PLEASE scrap the Flash-based site and give us a pure HTML one to get around it quicker :)
Thanks, and keep up the great effort!
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.09.29 21:12:00 -
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.09.29 23:05:00 -
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LOL, I've spent the last Entire Week Modelling a Crow in 3DS MAX and it doesn't look anything as sweet as those !
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Posted - 2005.09.30 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Biff Steel
I'd like to make a quick little comment about all the posts in this thread that deal with CCP. First off please don't compare the work in this movie with CCP's work in a game, it's like comparing apples to oranges, and it's useless. CCP IS the reason this movie is being made. Everyone of us working on this movie are subscribers to the game and have been for a long time. This game has given us incredible inspiration and the will to try to pull off such a huge goal.
Second, reproducing model concepts is one thing, coming up with the original design concepts for these ships is much different and far more difficult. I'm not insulting Shades ability because I've seen some of his original model concepts and they are just as good if not better than anything your seeing here in this thread, but I'm sure he would say the same thing in regards to the two skills.
We are making this movie because we love what CCP has given us in a game and the community that supports it. Bashing CCP to compliment us hurts and is unwanted.
Tight models and great post dude, i too am a bit frustrated with the ignorant CCP bashing that goes around.
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Posted - 2005.09.30 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Biff Steel
Second, reproducing model concepts is one thing, coming up with the original design concepts for these ships is much different and far more difficult. I'm not insulting Shades ability because I've seen some of his original model concepts and they are just as good if not better than anything your seeing here in this thread, but I'm sure he would say the same thing in regards to the two skills.
Isn't polygon count a consideration as well? Those models have way more detail in game since they'll only be used in a video once, not over and over in real time on low to high end PC video cards. :) If you had that level of detail in game, your frame rate would be expressed in frames per minute instead of frames per second.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.09.30 13:17:00 -
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"Isn't polygon count a consideration as well?"
Aye; for example, the in-game Scorpion is buit from ~5.5k triangles, only 2k of them actually being the visible model.
For video work this can be increased by thousands, because frames don't need to be calculated real-time...
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soldiier
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Posted - 2005.09.30 13:33:00 -
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That scorp is sweet
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Posted - 2005.09.30 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zephirz on 30/09/2005 18:26:40
/me loves evolution!!
Cant u guys make like a poster or sumtin I'd buy em ^^
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.09.30 22:41:00 -
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Guys, seriously. You have real, real talent. I'm sure this movie is gonna show us just how you can put that to amazing use. Nice one.
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Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Posted - 2005.10.01 14:24:00 -
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Very impressive modelling Shade, I especially admire the features added where the game models have less definition, and the alternative designs for the command bridges. If your project needs additional help modelling/texturing/animating I may be able to assist.
Ammar Shuttle sample
Do you maintain the model pieces as sub divisional polygons or collapse them to an editable polygon to detail?
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.10.01 15:45:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Omithar
Ammar Shuttle sample
Now that is damn nice!
Originally by: James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.10.01 16:29:00 -
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Haitchi is impressed. Really good work, can't wait to see the finished product.
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.10.01 16:35:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Biff Steel
I'd like to make a quick little comment about all the posts in this thread that deal with CCP. First off please don't compare the work in this movie with CCP's work in a game, it's like comparing apples to oranges, and it's useless. CCP IS the reason this movie is being made. Everyone of us working on this movie are subscribers to the game and have been for a long time. This game has given us incredible inspiration and the will to try to pull off such a huge goal.
Second, reproducing model concepts is one thing, coming up with the original design concepts for these ships is much different and far more difficult. I'm not insulting Shades ability because I've seen some of his original model concepts and they are just as good if not better than anything your seeing here in this thread, but I'm sure he would say the same thing in regards to the two skills.
We are making this movie because we love what CCP has given us in a game and the community that supports it. Bashing CCP to compliment us hurts and is unwanted.
Yeah and for those saying get these models in game if they did the game would be completely unplayable with those kinds of poly counts.
Awesome models what modeling package? 3DS? LW? Maya? SI?
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.10.01 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Omithar
Very impressive modelling Shade, I especially admire the features added where the game models have less definition, and the alternative designs for the command bridges. If your project needs additional help modelling/texturing/animating I may be able to assist.
Ammar Shuttle sample
Do you maintain the model pieces as sub divisional polygons or collapse them to an editable polygon to detail?
Hi Omithar, can you please send me an ingame mail with some contact info and I'll do the same. I would like to talk to you about this project please.
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Raptornas
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Posted - 2005.10.01 20:33:00 -
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Sweet baby jebus tapdancing christ. Thats amazing.
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oDDiTy V2
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Posted - 2005.10.01 22:32:00 -
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Very nice model there Omithar!
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Sha'blach
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Posted - 2005.10.02 04:58:00 -
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hey bud :) Can I help? I'm a profession CG artist.
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Posted - 2005.10.02 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: NoLock LetsNegociate
Don't be stupid.
Several 30k to 100k polygons groups is impossible to animate in live.
Unless you want somethin' like a cray calculator in your livingroom...
dude, you dont know what you're talking about lol.... I've run about 30 490k models in one scene and animated them all. Wasnt hard. You need to understand that the PCs the CG artists like myself and Shade use are far beyond most gamer's PC. For instance I run 11gbs of DDR in my main work machine, 2 64bit 3.02ghz CPUs, X850 cards, etc.
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Posted - 2005.10.02 11:47:00 -
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"dude, you dont know what you're talking about lol.... I've run about 30 490k models in one scene and animated them all."
Am guessing "live" meant real-time, solid 60+ fps performance of the game client that's rendering the geometry for the player to see... not being able to move objects around and set keyframes in animation program, for frames that are then rendered in batch.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2005.10.02 12:43:00 -
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credit where its due.... damn fine work
Tempest is superb btw, best model out of the lot of them
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2005.10.02 18:14:00 -
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looking good
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SpaceCleaver
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Posted - 2005.10.02 18:23:00 -
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Wonderful. just wonderful.
Don't wanna think about the render time of the movie thou 
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2005.10.02 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceCleaver
Wonderful. just wonderful.
Don't wanna think about the render time of the movie thou
Haha, me too, that's why were using NASA to render
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.10.03 05:04:00 -
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Wow.
Very nice Shade...very, very nice...
I'll take two of each in Jita plz :)
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Korthan
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Posted - 2005.10.03 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
HOLY ******* ****!
That is damn right!
Whoever made those should get like an unlimited supply of kudos!
What programs do you all use to make those??
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Posted - 2005.10.03 16:07:00 -
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Oh btw... what do you use to make this?
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.10.03 16:26:00 -
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omgsecks
if only the ingame models looked a little more like these :/
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Posted - 2005.10.03 17:41:00 -
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Awesome. Simply awesome
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Posted - 2005.10.03 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceCleaver
Oh btw... what do you use to make this?
The models are being made in Studio Max and later converted over to Maya for finishing.
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Posted - 2005.10.03 22:46:00 -
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Looks great...can't wait to see them textured as well.
Am I right in thinking that you guys originally extracted the models from the Eve client as a basis for creating these better detailed models? Is there a way of working out the 'real life' dimensions of the apoc and other ships that didn't appear in the old ship database that used to be on this site?
I'd like to knock up a few size comparisons like this one, but if the ship didn't appear in the old ship db, I have nothing to work with. It occurs to me that if I know that a Tempest is 1020 metres long, then I could work out how big the Apoc is by comparing the models - if there was a way of extracting them and looking at them outside of the game. All quite anal really, but I often think that you lose the sense of scale in Eve, and it's nice to have some comparisons to RL things to get more of an idea. I mean, who would've thought the small frigs were the same sort of size as a Jumbo jet?
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at stars.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.10.03 22:50:00 -
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I want to see those and more as high quality models if I zoom in enough. CCP!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.04 01:20:00 -
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"I'd like to knock up a few size comparisons like this one, but if the ship didn't appear in the old ship db, I have nothing to work with."
For the heck of it...
Caldari ship size comparison chart
this is simply the game models placed next to one another... Statue of Liberty and Eiffel Tower added for size reference :s
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.10.04 07:35:00 -
[134]
Originally by: j0sephine
"I'd like to knock up a few size comparisons like this one, but if the ship didn't appear in the old ship db, I have nothing to work with."
For the heck of it...
Caldari ship size comparison chart
this is simply the game models placed next to one another... Statue of Liberty and Eiffel Tower added for size reference :s
Thats awesome j0 Did you generate that and if you did, can you make one for the other races
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Posted - 2005.10.04 07:47:00 -
[135]
Originally by: j0sephine
"I'd like to knock up a few size comparisons like this one, but if the ship didn't appear in the old ship db, I have nothing to work with."
For the heck of it...
Caldari ship size comparison chart
this is simply the game models placed next to one another... Statue of Liberty and Eiffel Tower added for size reference :s
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.04 15:42:00 -
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"Thats awesome j0 Did you generate that and if you did, can you make one for the other races"
well, for what's worth ^^
Amarr ship size comparison chart
Gallente ship size comparison chart
(minmatar ships have lot of parts which are just alpha-mapped simple surface, so they require bit more work to get done, or they just won't look right... i'll add them later)
Note, these sizes aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate. It's the sizes of actual 3d models, but it's possible some of them have scaling applied in their model description file... still they do give some sense of scale ;s
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Posted - 2005.10.04 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sha'blach
You need to understand that the PCs the CG artists like myself and Shade use are far beyond most gamer's PC. For instance I run 11gbs of DDR in my main work machine, 2 64bit 3.02ghz CPUs, X850 cards, etc.
*expletives removed*
I was impressed with the work. now I just hate you all.
*looks forlornly at my weedy setup of 4gig with SLI 6800 ultra, and wishes for a Quadro 4 or someone to give me a few grand for a Boxx...
*sigh*
though on the plus side, my university has finally got maya 7, so I can learn that alongside using max. :)
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.10.04 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"Thats awesome j0 Did you generate that and if you did, can you make one for the other races"
well, for what's worth ^^
Amarr ship size comparison chart
Gallente ship size comparison chart
(minmatar ships have lot of parts which are just alpha-mapped simple surface, so they require bit more work to get done, or they just won't look right... i'll add them later)
Note, these sizes aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate. It's the sizes of actual 3d models, but it's possible some of them have scaling applied in their model description file... still they do give some sense of scale ;s
This is great stuff! Wasn't sure if it was possible to get anything meaningful from the game models, but clearly you've managed to. Using silhouettes of the ships reminds me of those WW2 aircraft recognition posters.
This site was the inspiration for the idea originally.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at stars.
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Posted - 2005.10.04 22:17:00 -
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Excellent models mate.
Just a minor critisium (feel free to ignore it)
Tempest: You may wish to consider reducing the guns by 75% which would allow you to fit all 6 and also would boost the scal of the ship considerably.
Question, are the guns Autocannons or Artillary (they look like Auto cannons)
Apoc: Guns again, You may wish to consider swaping the barrels with a "lens" arrangment in the gun domes. A Lazer weapon gives you the flexibility to imply that the actual weapon itself is fittted into the main hull (and therfore could be quite large) and what you see as the weapon mount is a mirror/crystal device to deflect and focus the Beam at is targets.
As soon as you show a barrel your implying that all that distructive power is produced from that tiny part of the gun.
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Posted - 2005.10.05 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"Thats awesome j0 Did you generate that and if you did, can you make one for the other races"
well, for what's worth ^^
Amarr ship size comparison chart
Gallente ship size comparison chart
(minmatar ships have lot of parts which are just alpha-mapped simple surface, so they require bit more work to get done, or they just won't look right... i'll add them later)
Note, these sizes aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate. It's the sizes of actual 3d models, but it's possible some of them have scaling applied in their model description file... still they do give some sense of scale ;s
Request: Can you make a version of these with color? That would be Muchos Grande.
Great work, btw.
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Posted - 2005.10.05 23:00:00 -
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"Request: Can you make a version of these with color? That would be Muchos Grande."
That was in progress, just took a while to texture them all >.<;; but either way, here it is:
EVE ship size comparison chart, half-size (2048 pixels, for wallpapers and suchlike)
EVE ship size comparison chart, full size (4096 pixels, for detail nuts and people with good printers, i guess)
(and i know the cheap bump-mapping trick on dreadnaughts kinda sucks, but at these resolutions leaving them with regular textures really made it obvious these are low polycount game models :/
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Posted - 2005.10.06 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"Request: Can you make a version of these with color? That would be Muchos Grande."
That was in progress, just took a while to texture them all >.<;; but either way, here it is:
EVE ship size comparison chart, half-size (2048 pixels, for wallpapers and suchlike)
EVE ship size comparison chart, full size (4096 pixels, for detail nuts and people with good printers, i guess)
(and i know the cheap bump-mapping trick on dreadnaughts kinda sucks, but at these resolutions leaving them with regular textures really made it obvious these are low polycount game models :/
too bad its kinda too late but I would LOVE to see the new dreadnoughts in the evol video.
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.10.06 00:25:00 -
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nice
is it me or does that bestower look really really really big? :\
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.10.06 00:31:00 -
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oh and whats with the 3rd badger?
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Posted - 2005.10.06 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Omithar on 06/10/2005 00:36:07
j0sephine,
That is an very useful chart! At the least a very handy tool for 3D modellers. The 1st stumbling block to modelling EVE(ish) ships is generating blueprints to refer to. The in-game camera is difficult to use for this purpose, it's perspective is quite flared; so measuring is tricky.
Currently you've distributed the ships along the X and Y co-ordinates of page (a Side View). Would it be possible to space them along the Z axis also, and then render a Top View, and a Front View? These reference charts would then allow scale to be checked in all 3 dimensions.
Well executed too. The damsel pixel made me laugh at first, then had me thinking how massive these ships are meant to be. Is your day-job anything to do with Information Design?
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Posted - 2005.10.06 07:28:00 -
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So when is the ETA on this movie, cant wait...
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Posted - 2005.10.06 08:40:00 -
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I'm sure the sequal will have dreads, carriers, and titans.
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Posted - 2005.10.07 18:14:00 -
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As a 3d Artist i have to give you credit shade. Those are some nice meshes. :) But why move it over to maya for further detailing? What are you guys gonna render the final with, menthal ray?
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Posted - 2005.10.07 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Biff Steel on 07/10/2005 19:37:47
Originally by: Lord Takani
As a 3d Artist i have to give you credit shade. Those are some nice meshes. :) But why move it over to maya for further detailing? What are you guys gonna render the final with, menthal ray?
For the most part we are creating the models and UV sets in Max and then porting them over to Maya. The reason for this is Shade uses Max for modeling and I use Maya to animate and create all the effects. It's simply a matter of two people knowing two different applications.
There are 8 people at the core of this project. I've done my best to try and create a seamless pipeline for a number of applications and even operating systems (yes we are even using a Mac). We have had a few bumps in the road but overall things are working fine and using multiple applications to suit everyone's skill set has not been a problem. It's also been a great learning experience!
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Posted - 2005.10.07 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Biff Steel
Edited by: Biff Steel on 07/10/2005 19:37:47
Originally by: Lord Takani
As a 3d Artist i have to give you credit shade. Those are some nice meshes. :) But why move it over to maya for further detailing? What are you guys gonna render the final with, menthal ray?
For the most part we are creating the models and UV sets in Max and then porting them over to Maya. The reason for this is Shade uses Max for modeling and I use Maya to animate and create all the effects. It's simply a matter of two people knowing two different applications.
There are 8 people at the core of this project. I've done my best to try and create a seamless pipeline for a number of applications and even operating systems (yes we are even using a Mac). We have had a few bumps in the road but overall things are working fine and using multiple applications to suit everyone's skill set has not been a problem. It's also been a great learning experience!
I see, well keep up the good work guys, really looking forward to the movie. Learning and having fun is always a good thing! Never used max alot, i'm a maya and lightwave guy and since recently cinema.
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Posted - 2005.10.07 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Biff Steel
Edited by: Biff Steel on 07/10/2005 19:37:47
Originally by: Lord Takani
As a 3d Artist i have to give you credit shade. Those are some nice meshes. :) But why move it over to maya for further detailing? What are you guys gonna render the final with, menthal ray?
For the most part we are creating the models and UV sets in Max and then porting them over to Maya. The reason for this is Shade uses Max for modeling and I use Maya to animate and create all the effects. It's simply a matter of two people knowing two different applications.
There are 8 people at the core of this project. I've done my best to try and create a seamless pipeline for a number of applications and even operating systems (yes we are even using a Mac). We have had a few bumps in the road but overall things are working fine and using multiple applications to suit everyone's skill set has not been a problem. It's also been a great learning experience!
I see, well keep up the good work guys, really looking forward to the movie. Learning and having fun is always a good thing! Never used max alot, i'm a maya and lightwave guy and since recently cinema.
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Posted - 2006.04.21 02:56:00 -
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If any topic, this topic deserves a bump...
Great job Shadowlands team. The meshes are excelent, but how's the texturing going? UV mapping is a bit*h and far too often do I see projects stop dead when it comes to this step. I'm happy to see some of the ships have textures on your site though so hope is well and alive from my perspective :)
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Posted - 2006.04.21 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 21/04/2006 10:57:34
Oh, this has so blatantly got to be Mirrored
Damn guys. Oh hell yes.
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.04.21 11:00:00 -
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Amazing models!!!
Thou shalt be dispatched.
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: K1K1R1K1
If any topic, this topic deserves a bump...
Great job Shadowlands team. The meshes are excelent, but how's the texturing going? UV mapping is a bit*h and far too often do I see projects stop dead when it comes to this step. I'm happy to see some of the ships have textures on your site though so hope is well and alive from my perspective :)
If you would like to see all the battleships fully textured they can be seen in issue #2 of E-ON magazine.
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.04.21 20:41:00 -
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Nice! I want that apoc tbh. CCP should employ some of these guys... or do they already... Ahhh now we have proof the BoB has devs in!!! muahaha
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Posted - 2006.04.21 21:54:00 -
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:36:00 -
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Very nice work! When i try to make something in 3D myself i end up with very ugly looking / boxlike items, i wish i was even half as good as the creator of those models :)
What software is it made with? 3d smax?
Oh and did i say i love those models, want them ingame ;)
Anyone know the polycount on the ingame ships?
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Posted - 2006.04.21 23:42:00 -
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The models look awesome, I like the website aswell. Keep up the good work.
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Posted - 2006.04.22 10:33:00 -
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Shade the Modeller is quite good. Not to say WTFBBQ? awesome.
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Posted - 2006.04.22 11:31:00 -
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/me drools
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:06:00 -
[162]
plz make templest look likes this in game
doh
i will be nice
plz dont ban me anymore :/ |
Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:21:00 -
[163]
omg! I want that megathron!
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2006.04.22 14:03:00 -
[164]
Most tasty
I R t3h Bexleh lol |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.04.22 21:18:00 -
[165]
I love the scorp tbh.
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Zoltaris
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.10.04 15:46:00 -
[166]
So uh... is this evolution movie ever going to be finished? 
If not, can the completed work be released soon?
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Raven LeVaughn
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Posted - 2007.01.18 06:32:00 -
[167]
Hmmm i can't get the links for the full sized sizing charts to work. :(
help? ;_; |
Raven LeVaughn
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Posted - 2007.01.18 06:35:00 -
[168]
hmmm... yea. nothin.
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:35:00 -
[169]
Thread necro makes me cry
EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER |
temp gutten
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:00:00 -
[170]
i dont know, but the links are down, private server? ;)
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viper adt
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:23:00 -
[171]
the links are down is there a mirror?
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temp gutten
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:36:00 -
[172]
im realy looking forward to see the work, using Maya myself aswell
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Trancestor
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:41:00 -
[173]
any chance to get new mirrors?
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Riese Blecja
Gallente
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.01.18 12:59:00 -
[174]
A mirror would be nice. I missed this thread in its totality when it was first posted, and I'd like to see the screens.
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Linkel
Minmatar
Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.01.19 21:09:00 -
[175]
please post a mirror, damn I wanna see them ships badly.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.20 00:38:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Raven LeVaughn
Hmmm i can't get the links for the full sized sizing charts to work. :(
help? ;_;
I call Shenanigans on YOU!
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.20 00:47:00 -
[177]
links dont work :(
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MellaRinn
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.20 03:09:00 -
[178]
Edited by: MellaRinn on 20/01/2007 03:05:57
Originally by: Riley Craven
links dont work :(
QFT: post on E-F plpzlpzlpzlzplzp
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.01.20 22:14:00 -
[179]
Am I the only one getting "Server not found"?
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Drako Novas
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.21 07:44:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Buxaroo
Am I the only one getting "Server not found"?
Maybe because this is a necro thread.
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