thats what i said during the presentation but we have yet to start working on it

http://imgur.com/5A9w99u

just to get a few more likes :D here have a navypoc screen

a whole bunch of whines

U know, a lot of us would be simply happy if we could get our golden amarrian ships back.

This is realy good enough: http://www.eveandbeyond.de/wp-content/iimage/e32006/apocalypse_1_new.jpg


I dont need a pregant anorexic whale. Because that is how the new model looks like.

Most of u where pretty happy with these colors: http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/thumb/7/79/Model-Apocalypse.jpg/273px-Model-Apocalypse.jpg

The design was simple, yet elegant. The new design reminds me of this one: http://www.flugzeug-bild.de/bilder/a-300f4-608st-beluga-1397.jpg

And this aint a good looking bird.


The Apoc of old, especially the Navy Apoc was one of the best looking ships in the game. I didnt hear ppl complain about it, at least not more than they complained about everything else.

But i am realy curious if someone from CCP can explain me something:

People have asked for a redone Naglfar model since i started eve in 2007. We where told that making a new model was to complicated. And still, the changes to the naglfar are still only ment to compensate for its lack of a third turret slot.

So, making a new Naglfar model is to complicated, but ruining another of the amarr ships is no problem?

"I don't get that aesthetics are inherently subjective and CCP can't possibly please everyone. I demand that CCP caters to my sense of aesthetic only."

I am hardly the only one complaining about CCPs course of actions. Back when i joined this game in 2007 i did this also because of the aesthetics. Especially those of the Amarr Empire. Also, according to the books every ship, gate, station in the entire Empire is enveloped in 24 Karat of gold. I dont see any gold on my ships. Not anymore.

If they change the aesthetics of Eve, they change Eve.

And not everyone here is approving change because of change itself. Not to mention that there are more urgent issues. I still have no answer on my question regarding the Naglfar.

If u dont care about what your ship looks like, fine, congrats. I do care and as a paying customer i have the right to voice my disaprovel of these changes. Eve is losing more and more of its charme. And the amarr did get hit very hard in recent years. And with the upcoming changes they will get hit even harder.

While the model itself is better than the old, I really, really don't like the new NApoc. It looks like a slightly greyer version of the regular Apoc, what happened to the blue and black theme? The Amarr navy line for battleships had the best color scheme in game, why would you change it to this washed out grey?

I am hardly the only one complaining about CCPs course of actions. Back when i joined this game in 2007 i did this also because of the aesthetics. Especially those of the Amarr Empire. Also, according to the books every ship, gate, station in the entire Empire is enveloped in 24 Karat of gold. I dont see any gold on my ships. Not anymore.

If they change the aesthetics of Eve, they change Eve.

And not everyone here is approving change because of change itself. Not to mention that there are more urgent issues. I still have no answer on my question regarding the Naglfar.

If u dont care about what your ship looks like, fine, congrats. I do care and as a paying customer i have the right to voice my disaprovel of these changes. Eve is losing more and more of its charme. And the amarr did get hit very hard in recent years. And with the upcoming changes they will get hit even harder.

U know, a lot of us would be simply happy if we could get our golden amarrian ships back.

This is realy good enough: http://www.eveandbeyond.de/wp-content/iimage/e32006/apocalypse_1_new.jpg


I dont need a pregant anorexic whale. Because that is how the new model looks like.

Most of u where pretty happy with these colors: http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/thumb/7/79/Model-Apocalypse.jpg/273px-Model-Apocalypse.jpg

The design was simple, yet elegant. The new design reminds me of this one: http://www.flugzeug-bild.de/bilder/a-300f4-608st-beluga-1397.jpg

And this aint a good looking bird.


The Apoc of old, especially the Navy Apoc was one of the best looking ships in the game. I didnt hear ppl complain about it, at least not more than they complained about everything else.

But i am realy curious if someone from CCP can explain me something:

People have asked for a redone Naglfar model since i started eve in 2007. We where told that making a new model was to complicated. And still, the changes to the naglfar are still only ment to compensate for its lack of a third turret slot.

So, making a new Naglfar model is to complicated, but ruining another of the amarr ships is no problem?

someone was asking me about the Domi during my presentation of the apoc and i gave him an answer regarding what stage we are with it :D

I thought when Soundwave showed us the model in game it looked much better than that picture. I am very pleased with how this looks! Can't wait to see it on my Paladin :)

Love this update. I was a little dismayed with the geddon changes, but with the making the Apoc the attack BS and its new graphical update I'm pretty excited.

BIG fan of what was done with the Maller as well, went from being my least favorite Amarr Cruiser to the best looking one imo. This is a similar change for the Apoc

This redesign is incredible, I wish i could have seen the presentation on it, I was really disappointed that we couldn't get that part of the stream on fanfest, as I feel that is very important for us older veterans.

With the paladin, Given that some of the people are displeased with the new apoc, maybe to a lesser extent, you could have something that resembles the "parted sections" but making them lower by about half. But definitely give it an upgrade like you did with the original apoc, I mean the geometry just looks a lot better. I look forward to seeing what you guys do to the tier 3 battleships, the typhoon and the domi and the armageddon.

i feel with you. i hope they put this presentation online at some point. they simply have to XD
there was even advertisement in the art panel for this presentation.



for the paladin i just hope the find a clever way to position the turrets at a spot which looks not totally random. getting the kronos right needed some rather persistent player feedback.
besides that, blood red & gold - will be one heck of a ship :D