Well, it looks like we will have to wait and see how it really works out in the end. Maybe, it is still bearable to do the long range trip to get the ice.

Regarding the Outpost modifications, I cannot really say whats going on here because I have never dealt with outposts. But I trust you guys know what you are talking about.

Basically you need 1 of each outpost in your constellation, or if you own the region 1 reprocessing one centrally located with jb.

Genreally though you get better refining compressing it and shipping it to high sec. One of the reason most alliance never see mineral taxes.

If your not willing to move 3-4 freighters worth of upgrades per station your better off not bothering with keeping the minerals/ ice in null

This kind of makes me wonder what the benefit of having an outpost then really is. I was always under the impression that outposts are like high-sec stations but owned by the playerbase. Looks like I was wrong (as I said, I never dealt with outposts).

tons of stuff

Things that will be interesting for me... The time for endless ice mining has come at last. Except for AFK/Bot miners, this should not be too much of a problem. It is my hope that when a new Ice Field spawns that my Alliance fleet of miners can not kill it in 15 minutes. I hope that a bunch of us can kill it in 3 to 4 hours then D-Scan the next location. Twice the ice and half the time. We would not have to mine ice that often to keep our POS towers up.

I am miffed about all the time I have spent in training my scanning to the max just so I can scan down a Gravimetric site in less than a minute. I just wish they added a new type of signature that I could look for with my kick ass scanning skillz. Now a 1 day wonder can press the scan button and jump to the Ice Field? *sigh* In that I feel cheated. :)

Im a newer player and Im not too familiar with Gravs and Anoms.

But I read about them and I trained to scan them down and mine.

Now they will always have folks in them because they no longer need to be scanned down.

That sucks. I had to waste time training skills to do this. Had I known about this, I never would have trained those skills.

...this entire expansion is themed around doing new and exciting things with those exact skills, and you're crying about how you won't need them to find a field to hoe anymore.

I totally agree with the OP. CCP has made many attempts to populate low/null. All the people who want to be there are already there.

I also see the problem that the upcomming changes do not leave room for small high sec corporations to run a POS. Limiting the ICE supply is ok, but I think they overdid it. I just checked: Khanid Kingdom will not have asingle ICE anomaly in the whole region (!).

This is not limiting the ICE supply, this is completely removing the ICE supply. Why? Does CCP really want to ban POSes from high-sec in Khanid?

From the presentation i watched on Friday, it had nothing to do with what I used these skills for. Which is to find Gravs.

That's a personal problem. Those skills are receiving quite the treatment this patch - you should try using them outside of the very narrow and boring scope of finding rocks to pick at.

You're exactly right, it is a PERSONAL problem. The same way me Plexing or Paying for MY account is a PERSONAL problem.

You also have a PERSONAL problem, trying to force your opinion on others and influence the way they choose to play!

I use my skill how I want to my betterment or detriment. I determine the way I play. I'll adjust. Narrow and Boring it may be to you, is not how I view it.

How about you stop being condescending to people just because they dont play how you would like them too. Thats another PERSONAL problem of yours i see.

TLDR you're not meant to play an MMO game solo. The reality is if you don't play with other people you'll get bored and quit period.

and they STRONGLY encourage group activities.

incorrect.
i want to be in null, however i make more isk in high sec so i am there.

there's no incentive for me to go in to null, currently.

First time I have agreed with you. I usually see you as a troll poster. We likely are agreeing for different reasons though.

Some ice mining will probably move from high to null or possibly even low, but it is not at all clear the price of ice products will go up. Ice miner cycle times are being cut in half, which means once an ice field is found the ice can be gathered a lot more quickly. It's quite possible ice prices will drop in the long run.

a max skilled Skiff with Roqual boost will mine 110 block per hour after thew 50% reduction is cykle time

So basically for refining, you need to get scrapmetal processing and refining up to 4, have a 40% refine station and use a refining implant to get "perfect" refine. Then you lose up to 10% to the owner corp.