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Drusty
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:07:00 -
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Lets let some of the people know, Pirates do have a Code. Please give examples of the pirate code. For example if they pay the amount u ask for you wont pod them. I got a ransom once and let her go and was warping out when rats got the pilot. Am i wrong i didnt kill the ship. Got a bit of a scolding from the pilot. But hey let people know that we do have a code, and most abide by them.
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Rocko MonkeyBone
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Rocko MonkeyBone on 28/09/2005 22:30:23
Edited by: Rocko MonkeyBone on 28/09/2005 22:29:41
I'm not a pirate, but if there is a -10 to my corp or alliance, and their mining or in a ship I dont deem a threat I'll ask for a pay off. Once they pay I click "Unlock Target" and send the message of "Fly Safe". Then warp out. The next time I see them I say hello, but dont engage. So far the ppl I have ransomed have actually told others I have honour and a code to match. If they dont pay, obviously the insurace company pays them =), I may then ask for a little share of it...but 9/10 times I let them go, ship kill can hurt the wallet beyond insurance payout.
I have only had to gank 1 guy who called in his corp and all started to smacktalk...waited till he screwed up and went to a belt solo, and then made him pay....oh and he forgot to insure his ship...BONUS! 
So long as you are trust worthy and honourable in everything you do, your reputation will grow and preceed you.
Rocko.
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Arbenowskee
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Posted - 2005.09.28 22:45:00 -
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Yarr! If those landlubbers aint payin, its the plank for their bilge-drinkin bones! If they be payin, i be on my merry way screamin': begone u scallywag or it's davey jones' locker for ye!
Always makes a merry yarn.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2005.09.29 05:33:00 -
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I've decided I'll give everyone I engage a chance to pay, but if they log... then I'll toss a coin on their fate 
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.29 05:57:00 -
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The code is- He who has the biggest gun walks away.
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Razner Cerizo
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Posted - 2005.09.29 05:59:00 -
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Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2005.09.29 06:31:00 -
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"i dont stop the guns, isk does"
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JimneyCricket
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Posted - 2005.09.29 06:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
but if they log... then I'll toss a coin on their fate
thats when u play with them like a Cat and its prey....
Or just see if u can get one of those "I'll add that to my bio" hit's you see your victims adding to theirs...lol
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Mardonius
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Posted - 2005.09.29 07:07:00 -
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Personally, I don't think that there is a real code. People can accept your ransom, then blast you to pieces the next second. They can make promises, but at any time they are free to break them. They can lie, steal, betray and scam.
However, in EVE, people are only as good as their reputation. So if they make a promise, their word is there bond. Also, pirates who break their word incur the wrath of other pirate outfits who seek to protect the reputation of their profession.
In short: if a pirate makes a promise, you can be damn sure he will stick to it. But anything can happen, so keep that in mind too, as an outside chance. As the OP said "most abide by [the code]".
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
h4xx0r!
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Drommy
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Posted - 2005.09.29 10:01:00 -
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aye, when u get ransomed u should pay up. we dont ask for unfair amounts, and if u think it is unfair say so. closing channel will only end in u getting ur pod ransomed too (and then WE KNOW u got isk cos of the insurance pay out of ur ship) plus we get the loot too, which is always nice. ive never ransomed and then not let someone go after they've paid. its just bad karma. plus if u catch m again later, they aint gonna pay u a secon time if u didnt let them go the first.
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Yith Solarius
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Posted - 2005.09.29 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Drommy
aye, when u get ransomed u should pay up. we dont ask for unfair amounts, and if u think it is unfair say so. closing channel will only end in u getting ur pod ransomed too (and then WE KNOW u got isk cos of the insurance pay out of ur ship) plus we get the loot too, which is always nice. ive never ransomed and then not let someone go after they've paid. its just bad karma. plus if u catch m again later, they aint gonna pay u a secon time if u didnt let them go the first.
But any amount is unfair isn't it  its not like a tax that if you pay you get you binman comming around or get an electricity supply, your attacking a target and demanding a fee or they don't die, the way you describe it is like a fair fee for something you might want, and getting your hauler held up low sec by a pirate is never what anybody wants.
TBH I'm getting a little fed up of the 'I'm a pirate, I steal, gank and grief normal players to get my money and thrils. I am the very definition of a egocentric player, therofore the whole population of eve should praise me...'
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Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2005.09.29 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Yith Solarius
Originally by: Drommy
aye, when u get ransomed u should pay up. we dont ask for unfair amounts, and if u think it is unfair say so. closing channel will only end in u getting ur pod ransomed too (and then WE KNOW u got isk cos of the insurance pay out of ur ship) plus we get the loot too, which is always nice. ive never ransomed and then not let someone go after they've paid. its just bad karma. plus if u catch m again later, they aint gonna pay u a secon time if u didnt let them go the first.
But any amount is unfair isn't it its not like a tax that if you pay you get you binman comming around or get an electricity supply, your attacking a target and demanding a fee or they don't die, the way you describe it is like a fair fee for something you might want, and getting your hauler held up low sec by a pirate is never what anybody wants.
TBH I'm getting a little fed up of the 'I'm a pirate, I steal, gank and grief normal players to get my money and thrils. I am the very definition of a egocentric player, therofore the whole population of eve should praise me...'
Ofcourse its fair :) Its a public service.
1. We keep the market running, so you carebares SHOULD praise us, if not worship.
2. Its a very fair tax to pay to stay alive. Lets call it Personal security tax.
3. We are not egocentric, we are Capitalistic.
Cheers :)
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Malvan
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:12:00 -
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They're more like guidelines, really...
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Pistonbroke
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malvan
They're more like guidelines, really...
Damn, beat me to it.
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FooB2
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Posted - 2005.09.29 11:29:00 -
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i used to do the "pay for the NAP" thing back in orlon corp, but then we ended up with the entire region blue to us. so i dont bother anymore. personally, i like to **** people off as much as humanley possible, because the eve-mails you get back are much funnier. although if they do pay i do let them go etc.
edna had a dude that sent him an eve-mail back once that said "you killed me because im deaf, you racist <explative deleted>" with another paragraph following full of explatives. to me, thats worth more than a measly 5 mil or something stupid.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.09.29 12:52:00 -
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lol
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Taka
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Posted - 2005.09.29 12:55:00 -
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I dont really ransom people...i just hope they have good mods on thier ships...if not oh well..although i wud try ransoming sometime...and i wud let people go if the paid up...me and a couple of other friends cought a raven...we were in frigs/cruisers...and we tried ransoming it....the raven told us to go **** ourselves so his nice raven went pop...with all his named launchers and named tanking stuff :)
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Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2005.09.29 13:41:00 -
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Could u make your sign pic just alittle bit larger please?
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slapp
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Posted - 2005.09.29 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Could u make your sign pic just alittle bit larger please?
and a little more uglyer as well...
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Kaemonn
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Posted - 2005.09.29 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
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Solu Ithikar
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Posted - 2005.09.29 18:39:00 -
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Were Contra and Gradius so very long ago? You're making me feel old, Kaemonn.
Konami ftw.
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.09.29 19:19:00 -
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Pirate Code?? .. %$"$!*looks in Dark Cartel pirate manual !! HEY WHO RIPPED THE LAST PAGE OUT !!ffs |
MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.09.30 11:24:00 -
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I have a ebil cowde bweakah !
If there are rats, i do them aswell, they seldom pay.
But thenagain, the player dotn get ****ed when the npc frig
ganks them ^^
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.09.30 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: JoCool on 30/09/2005 11:32:08
Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
Hahah :D
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SteppinRazor
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Posted - 2005.09.30 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: SteppinRazor on 30/09/2005 12:23:03
Pirate Code .. too bad pfffft and Kjewla (Teddybears) didn't think about it when these gatecampers PodKilled me .. I would have paid a ransom of twice the value (not price) of my ship to get away in one piece .., but they didn't .. I found it a bit lame  and 'out-of-roleplay' .. but that's live ..
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sinickal
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Posted - 2005.09.30 12:33:00 -
[26]
Yarr is me code of ebilism. Yarrr
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n1ghtmar3
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Posted - 2005.09.30 12:38:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
Was always Up, Down, Left, Right, A + Start together for me 
2005.07.24 20:53:09combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes E X O D U S Minor, wrecking for 1100.9 damage. |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.01 15:22:00 -
[28]
Originally by: SteppinRazor
Edited by: SteppinRazor on 30/09/2005 12:23:03
Pirate Code .. too bad pfffft and Kjewla (Teddybears) didn't think about it when these gatecampers PodKilled me .. I would have paid a ransom of twice the value (not price) of my ship to get away in one piece .., but they didn't .. I found it a bit lame and 'out-of-roleplay' .. but that's live ..
how can they ransom you?
When you jumped in and saw local with lots of -10 people you should have convod one and then paid a ransom.
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Tamora
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Posted - 2005.10.01 18:18:00 -
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Check my ingame bio for the REAL pirate code.
Its all there to see.
don't use this signature -eris |
Kumq uat
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Posted - 2005.10.01 19:26:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
The code is- He who has the biggest gun walks away.
Until an int is flyin circles around a BS with T2 guns and a tracking disruptor. heh
Tired of mining the same looking rock for thousands of hours you care bear you? www.freeallegiance.org |
Drusty
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Posted - 2005.10.01 20:30:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
Its a old code for the Video game called Contra on the original Nintendo.
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Tajidan
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:08:00 -
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No, its for full Option, Laser and Missiles. Vic Viper 4tw
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:59:00 -
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The first rule of Pirate Club is: You DO NOT talk about Pirate Club.
The second rule of Pirate Club is: You DO NOT talk... oh wait, it's 'No Smoking'
Other than that they is only 'The Golden Question': Pay or die?
Lanfear's Bane.
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:59:00 -
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The first rule of Pirate Club is: You DO NOT talk about Pirate Club.
The second rule of Pirate Club is: You DO NOT talk... oh wait, it's 'No Smoking'
Other than that they is only 'The Golden Question': Pay or die?
Lanfear's Bane.
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TeamBETAalpha
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Posted - 2006.02.03 18:53:00 -
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We live by 4 rules:
1: The only honor we have is in our corp and our freinds, everyone else well.
2: We dont ransom, you die you die, if we ask for money and you give it to us, your lose.
(I think thats why people dont like us  )
3: Fight hard and die well, suicides are welcome 
4: Always have fun
Ever seen my sister, looks like me...would ya like a kiss? |
TeamBETAalpha
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Posted - 2006.02.03 18:53:00 -
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We live by 4 rules:
1: The only honor we have is in our corp and our freinds, everyone else well.
2: We dont ransom, you die you die, if we ask for money and you give it to us, your lose.
(I think thats why people dont like us )
3: Fight hard and die well, suicides are welcome
4: Always have fun
Ever seen my sister, looks like me...would ya like a kiss? |
Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
Actually it's, "There is no spoon." That's an actual code for Warcraft III. Wonder if it works in Eve? 
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:33:00 -
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Here is my pirate code.
....................../¦»/)
....................,/»../
.................../..../
............./¦»/'...'/¦»»`++
........../'/.../..../......./¿»\
........('(...¦...¦.... »~/'...')
.........\.................'...../
..........''...\.......... _.+¦
............\..............(
..............\.............\...
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upsideup
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Here is my pirate code.
....................../¦»/)
....................,/»../
.................../..../
............./¦»/'...'/¦»»`++
........../'/.../..../......./¿»\
........('(...¦...¦.... »~/'...')
.........\.................'...../
..........''...\.......... _.+¦
............\..............(
..............\.............\...
what does it mean?
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RavenL0rd
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:36:00 -
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I'm quite sure the first line says something about exploding veldspar
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: upsideup
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Here is my pirate code.
....................../¦»/)
....................,/»../
.................../..../
............./¦»/'...'/¦»»`++
........../'/.../..../......./¿»\
........('(...¦...¦.... »~/'...')
.........\.................'...../
..........''...\.......... _.+¦
............\..............(
..............\.............\...
what does it mean?
Means s******dly is a joke
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 03/02/2006 21:49:02
pirate code is more more like guideline anyway
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upsideup
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Posted - 2006.02.03 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Means s******dly is a joke
<3
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.02.03 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
i dont
plz explain
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.02.03 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
i dont
plz explain
its the konomi code used in a but load of games
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WT Lapre
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Posted - 2006.02.04 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rasitiln
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
i dont
plz explain
its the konomi code used in a but load of games
A very OLD code (late 80's/early 90's), I might add...
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Oiri Yusko
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Posted - 2006.02.04 06:38:00 -
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Please stay on topic and refrain from flaming.
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Drommy
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Drommy on 28/02/2006 13:14:36
Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Originally by: Yith Solarius
Originally by: Drommy
aye, when u get ransomed u should pay up. we dont ask for unfair amounts, and if u think it is unfair say so. closing channel will only end in u getting ur pod ransomed too (and then WE KNOW u got isk cos of the insurance pay out of ur ship) plus we get the loot too, which is always nice. ive never ransomed and then not let someone go after they've paid. its just bad karma. plus if u catch m again later, they aint gonna pay u a secon time if u didnt let them go the first.
But any amount is unfair isn't it its not like a tax that if you pay you get you binman comming around or get an electricity supply, your attacking a target and demanding a fee or they don't die, the way you describe it is like a fair fee for something you might want, and getting your hauler held up low sec by a pirate is never what anybody wants.
TBH I'm getting a little fed up of the 'I'm a pirate, I steal, gank and grief normal players to get my money and thrils. I am the very definition of a egocentric player, therofore the whole population of eve should praise me...'
Ofcourse its fair :) Its a public service.
1. We keep the market running, so you carebares SHOULD praise us, if not worship.
2. Its a very fair tax to pay to stay alive. Lets call it Personal security tax.
3. We are not egocentric, we are Capitalistic.
Cheers :)
The way i see it, if your gonna come into low sec space for the greater rewards you gotta expect to have greater danger, i guess in a way it is tax, because you earn more, every now and again a pirate catches you and makes you pay a ransom.
and hell be fair, you know you love that adrenaline rush anyway.........
IF YOU AINT BLUE... YOUR GOO
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:24:00 -
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A gentleman Pirate is always preferable to one that behaves like an uncultured thug. All the famous pirates throughout history were both sharp of wit and strong of swordplay.
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Elegant
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:32:00 -
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Generally famous pirates were those so brutal and bloodthirsty that they created a legacy of fear that handed their name down through the ages. Perhaps you were thinking of privateers? Drake and the rest could afford to be gentlemen because they had the support and safe harbor of a nation. Sadly the privateer profession doesnt exist in EVE.
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K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:21:00 -
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while ($self->notdead)
{
__$ships = belt->scan();
__foreach($ships as $ship)
__{
____if($ship <= $self->ship && $ship->pilot->alliance != $self->alliance) // is ?
____{
______$self->warpto($ship);
______while($ship != EXPLODED && $self->notdead)
______{
________$self->attack($ship); //
______}
______$self->get_loot($ship->can); //
____}
__}
}
while($self->agrotime + now() > now())
{
__$self->have_a_snack(); //
}
That's version 1 of my pirate code. underscores added for formatting purposes.
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Ellandrian D'Amerathe
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:43:00 -
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Quote:
A gentleman Pirate is always preferable to one that behaves like an uncultured thug. All the famous pirates throughout history were both sharp of wit and strong of swordplay.
Seen Pirates of the Carribean a few too many times? I can think of a couple of pirates that meet that description, Jean Lafitte for one, arguably Henry Morgan but his raids in to Panama and Maricabo were quite brutal. Some privateers practiced military courtesy but privateers operating under a letter of marquis are decidedly different from pirates. Most of your true pirates were basically just uncultured thugs, the high seas equivilant of an armed robber. Some of the more well known ones, Kidd for instance, are more famous for getting caught and hung than any real piracy.
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Demetrius Salonika
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:53:00 -
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To hell with pirates and their "code."
When a pirate keeps his word it's not because he has honor or integrity, it's so he can build a small reputation for keeping his word so more people will pay him so he can make more money in the end.
There is nothing honorable about a pirate player, they are completely devoid of any "nice" human characteristics (in game atleast.) Even if they try and say that pirating is honorable, or if you nonpirates try and say they're honorable...remember this...they make their money by stealing, lying, and cheating (in the illegitimate sense, not the exploitation of the game sense.)
And that is why i'll never pay a ranson, i'll scuttle my ship before I hand a pirate what he wants. If you let a bully get away with it once, he'll keep coming back. My philosophy is...take the loss once, don't ever let it happen again. (Lose your ship to the pirate, come back and take what you lost in tenfold.)
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K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:02:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Demetrius Salonika
And that is why i'll never pay a ranson, i'll scuttle my ship before I hand a pirate what he wants. If you let a bully get away with it once, he'll keep coming back. My philosophy is...take the loss once, don't ever let it happen again. (Lose your ship to the pirate, come back and take what you lost in tenfold.)
LOL? But I want you to scuttle your ship... that's comedy gold man!
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:13:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 28/02/2006 16:14:52
Originally by: Demetrius Salonika
When a pirate keeps his word it's not because he has honor or integrity, it's so he can build a small reputation for keeping his word so more people will pay him so he can make more money in the end.
Exactly. If you don't want to label that as 'honor', you can label it as 'good business sense'.
Quote:
they make their money by stealing, lying, and cheating (in the illegitimate sense, not the exploitation of the game sense.)
Are we talking about a pirate ransoming you in a belt, that due to his good business sense will let you go if you pay? If that's the case:
-Stealing? Yup, I agree with you.
-Lying? Nope. If he lets you go after you pay, he is not lying, is he?
-Cheating? Nope. What rule does a pirate break if he ransoms you in a belt? You did press 'yes' when the pop-up said "hey, you sure you wanna go into low-sec?", didn't you?
So, you are wrong 2 out of 3...
But this is they key part:
Quote:
If you let a bully get away with it once, he'll keep coming back.
If you think like this, you still haven't understood who your competitor is.
Think it from a business sense. The pirate out there is a risk, not a competitor... your competitor is any other pilot performing the same activity as you.
Say you mine in low-sec; other miners in low sec are your competitors (they sell the same ore as you do, thus lowering the price you can get). A pirate, which for your activity is a risk, is a way in which you can outsmart your competition.
Simple as that.
Each time you refuse to pay ransom and your ship goes pop, the smart miner competing against you on the next belt smiles. Why? Because he will pay the ransom, that will let him:
-save money
-save time
-get ahead of you
Again... not 'honor', we agree on that. Just good, solid business sense.
Barriers - an EVE novel |
Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lanfear''s Bane on 28/02/2006 16:17:02
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YA RLY
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Calderio
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:00:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Tamora
Check my ingame bio for the REAL pirate code.
Its all there to see.
so true
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tiller
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:14:00 -
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pirate code....
'begin gate camp
start:
do while cap > 0 and scanner = targets
warptogate = True
for keys = 1 to 8
sendkeys 'f' & keys
if nooblar = owned then
boohooinlocal = true
loot = mine
end if
if blob = 10 then exit do
next keys
loop
warpto safespot
wait 5
goto start
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:54:00 -
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Quote:
Each time you refuse to pay ransom and your ship goes pop, the smart miner competing against you on the next belt smiles. Why? Because he will pay the ransom, that will let him:
-save money
-save time
-get ahead of you
This theory might work if people played the game 24/7. Most dont.
Say the miner doesnt pay, get the insurance and plays for an extra hour the next day. Problem solved.
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Demetrius Salonika
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:01:00 -
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I'm not going to argue with Herko, as he made good points, though I don't agree with them. I still see pirates as bullies just out to make the easy buck. (Pirating, when done properly, has got to be rediculously easy. My idea of proper pirating is attacking the weak and helpless, such as miners and freight runners.)
Now, to reinforce what I was saying again, what Herko and I agreed on. Pirates are 100% honorless. Honor is having a 1v1 with another respectable pilot and letting him walk if you savagely beat him, or staying true to your word in a legitimate or willing agreement. Once again, staying true to your word when dealing with a helpless victim is just ensuring a larger number of people who think they'll survive an encounter if they pay up. It's not honor, and it never will be honor.
I'd like to see more pirate hunters honestly....
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Demetrius Salonika
I'm not going to argue with Herko, as he made good points, though I don't agree with them. I still see pirates as bullies just out to make the easy buck. (Pirating, when done properly, has got to be rediculously easy. My idea of proper pirating is attacking the weak and helpless, such as miners and freight runners.)
Now, to reinforce what I was saying again, what Herko and I agreed on. Pirates are 100% honorless. Honor is having a 1v1 with another respectable pilot and letting him walk if you savagely beat him, or staying true to your word in a legitimate or willing agreement. Once again, staying true to your word when dealing with a helpless victim is just ensuring a larger number of people who think they'll survive an encounter if they pay up. It's not honor, and it never will be honor.
I'd like to see more pirate hunters honestly....
Piracy has got to be the worst way to make money in the game, but certanly one of the most fun ways.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:20:00 -
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My pirate code is I do what I want when I want reguardless of your opinion feelings etc, tahts about it.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:24:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
My pirate code is I do what I want when I want reguardless of your opinion feelings etc, tahts about it.
Not sure that qualifies as actually having one, but...
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Vessar Koshir
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:48:00 -
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Ive never seen the point of indiscriminate killing tbh. Sure, you probably earn more cash selling all the fancy mods, but the way I see it people should be given one last chance to back out of PvP. It just so happens that chance costs them a reasonable fee
Im interested in being a pirate, not a mass-murderer.
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Daikatana00
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:50:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Daikatana00 on 28/02/2006 20:52:39
The real pirate code == 100% amorality
Pirates are some of the most effective businessmen (and women) of EVE. Your ship, your insurance, your pod, your fittings, your wallet...all of that means notihng to a true pirate. If a real pirate thinks he can make 5 more ISK in the long run by lying to you and killing your ship and then possibly podding you after a ransom then he WILL do so.
The pirate code you seem to be speaking of is simply an understanding between pirate and miner/trader that the destruction of ships benefits neither so you give him the money you would've spent on insurance and he lets you go so he can catch you again another day or week and make more money off you later.
Pirates can make much more money for slightly more risk by ransoming than they could selling the surviving modules. Victims can save money paying them compared to running back to buy, equip, and insure another ship. So while you may prefer not to run into pirates at all it is still better for them to ransom you than kill you because in the long run they'll make more money from it and you'll save more.
If one of the pimple-faced teenagers on a power-trip does decide to pod you after you pay, then you're out a few mil. Suck it up and don't pay to that corp next time, be vocal about it next time they try to ransom you and they'll soon realize its eating into their profits. Its still better for you though than being podded EVERY time they could normally kill you. Spread the word about it, throw a token bounty on him, and that pirate/pirate corp will not be nearly as sucessful as those who do ransom "fairly".
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.02.28 21:02:00 -
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-.-- .- .-. .-.
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Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Death Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:28:00 -
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If ransomed 'Pay the man'. All we have in eve is our reputation and our word of honor.
If a pirate kills you after you pay, spred the word and he soon will live to regret it.
I have let many go Because they paid. and will never go back on my word.
But hey i guess alot of people out there would prefer there to be no pirating, we can all go pick daisys together and eat muffins
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
pirate code....
'begin gate camp
start:
do while cap > 0 and scanner = targets
warptogate = True
for keys = 1 to 8
sendkeys 'f' & keys
if nooblar = owned then
boohooinlocal = true
loot = mine
end if
if blob = 10 then exit do
next keys
loop
warpto safespot
wait 5
goto start
Tiller we are hilarious [/pat on back]. I can't believe I got told off for posting in binary, that's excellent. You could make my day mod and put that in my siggy in a nice colour?
Lanfear's Bane.
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YA RLY
Put what in your sig? -Oiri Yusko
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Oiri Yusko
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Posted - 2006.03.01 01:05:00 -
[69]
Posting in binary can qualify as spam (as many people will see it and think it's meaningless) but I got curious to see what it said; and what it said was on-topic.
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.03.01 01:11:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Oiri Yusko
Posting in binary can qualify as spam (as many people will see it and think it's meaningless) but I got curious to see what it said; and what it said was on-topic.
Heh, cheers dude!
It was a pretty corny joke I admit
Lanfear's Bane.
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YA RLY
Put what in your sig? -Oiri Yusko
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UGWidowmaker
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: UGWidowmaker on 01/03/2006 05:57:57
sadly theres not many ways you can ransom in emperiel space... therefor its just more easy to kill people.. it would be a nice feuture from ccp to make something like this able in empire or the low sec of empire... hell make a pirat warb buble which are able to be hiding from the scentries.. :P and say u have to be a secrate -10 to be able to use it... yahhhrrr
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.03.01 06:25:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 01/03/2006 06:25:33
Pirates who keep their word on ransoms generally (from what I heard) make more ISK. This code is sound business sense for pirates but of course there are many different types of pirates out there. It's down to the pirate community to hunt and kill those that damage their reputation to the point it affects their business and they do. Self regulation 4TW
Anyway, the real reason I'm posting is this link I found interesting:
http://www.hickory.k12.nc.us/NVW/Taylorci/codeconduct.htm
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tiller
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Posted - 2006.03.01 06:48:00 -
[73]
Edited by: tiller on 01/03/2006 06:48:32
Originally by: Oiri Yusko
Posting in binary can qualify as spam (as many people will see it and think it's meaningless) but I got curious to see what it said; and what it said was on-topic.
lmao
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.03.01 07:06:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Drusty
Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
Its a old code for the Video game called Contra on the original Nintendo.
it was aswell for the ps2-version, i think....
for all germans: contra is the japanese original name for probotector.
now everybody knows it 
[red] i did twice now since this is the third time my sig was deleted. i have no idea why tbh. now whats wrong with it?- beo [red]
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Lsv1
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Posted - 2006.03.01 08:54:00 -
[75]
Share the booty. Don't share and brag about a find off some guy and prepare to be podded.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:45:00 -
[76]
1-We may kill you without ransomming.
2-if we do ransom and you dont pay instantly you die. Even If you agree to pay more than the demand, death will be imminent.
3-We do not acknoweldge anyones claim to any terrority.
4-A Shuttle is a Valid Target.
5-A Rookie ship is a valid target.
6-killing a badger with a Battleship is NOT Overkill.
7-We Never initiate Smack talk,
8-We Always Get the Last Word in Smack Talk.
9-We Do Not Have a Code of Conduct.
10-They are more Guidelines, than Rules.
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JoeT
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:03:00 -
[77]
I shoot to kill and collect the mods. If i pop a ship this way, I'll go for the pod. If someone ask me to stop, I'll toss up a money amount (give or take about 20% of there ships vaule). They pay, they walk away.
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Murder Murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:07:00 -
[78]
Originally by: JoeT
I shoot to kill and collect the mods. If i pop a ship this way, I'll go for the pod. If someone ask me to stop, I'll toss up a money amount (give or take about 20% of there ships vaule). They pay, they walk away.
OMG !
A Man After My own Heart.
Pirate = Someone Who Kills And plunders for loot.
Kidnapper = Someone who holds someone Hostage for money
I think I'm in love.
I'd rather have their mods and the kill mail than a couple iskies.
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Griffinator
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:48:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Kaemonn
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start.
\o/ I wonder how many people accually get that?
<=== points at himself lol
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