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Imran
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:29:00 -
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WTB Cross Dressing skill so i can make passes at Concord Agents to lower my sec status! 
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:40:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Imran
WTB Cross Dressing skill so i can make passes at Concord Agents to lower my sec status!
100mil isk and its urs 
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Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2005.09.29 16:58:00 -
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/Signed
Maybe .05 per day...
or,
nothing, but after a week of no aggressions .1 per day.
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.09.29 17:00:00 -
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Yeah I agree with this. Not so much that it's beneficial if you want to get back into high sec quickly, but when you've not pirated in months it's obvious you've left your old ways behind, so it should very slowly increase.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.09.29 17:08:00 -
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Make it happen CCP.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.09.29 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
a -10 char never actually gets to -10, it is always at an integer of -9.9 (mine is currently -9.96782034985 or something like that)
Nerd pirate for the win here, but...
-9.9 is a real number (or a double (or higher) precision number, if you talk computers), integers refer to positive and negative whole numbers (and zero)
just fyi 
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.09.29 18:02:00 -
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In respect to the "Bounty Hunters" and "Anti-Pirates" this suggestion would effect them most. More people than ever are getting lower security than before. Remember, people would drop to a point then raise back up to -1.8 or so. That means now, more people are falling below -5.0 for more "Bounty Hunters" and "Anti-Pirates" to engage in "Empire Space". This is a good thing. Being there is no set code for them to actually engage all pirates before without being criminaly hostile (Security Status).
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.09.29 18:15:00 -
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I`m a reformed pirate and i miss Jita! 
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.09.29 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 29/09/2005 19:31:24
How about getting security bonus for contributing to the safety of EVE?
+0.1 bonus for every 100M isk in NPC value (ship+equipment+pod+implants) you kill of a -5 or lower pirate?
Yes it's possible to exploit that by putting an alt/buddy in expensive stuff and blowing him up over and over, but who would be willing to pay all those billions of ISK?
Ofcourse if you're doing this with a gang, the sec bonus would be split between all people on the killmail to prevent another exploit.
Just take one or two buddies and start busting the 0.4 gatecamps. The risk, timeconsumption and community service make it a lot more balanced then just taking a long holiday from killing people, paying a huge fee which can be seen as an investment for killing 1.0 haulers again, or simply blowing up NPC rats.
Besides, the pirates deserve some more challenge, and the piratehunters deserve a motivation boost.
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Profess0r Mansechs0r
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Posted - 2005.09.30 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tobiaz
Edited by: Tobiaz on 29/09/2005 19:31:24
How about getting security bonus for contributing to the safety of EVE?
+0.1 bonus for every 100M isk in NPC value (ship+equipment+pod+implants) you kill of a -5 or lower pirate?
Yes it's possible to exploit that by putting an alt/buddy in expensive stuff and blowing him up over and over, but who would be willing to pay all those billions of ISK?
Ofcourse if you're doing this with a gang, the sec bonus would be split between all people on the killmail to prevent another exploit.
Just take one or two buddies and start busting the 0.4 gatecamps. The risk, timeconsumption and community service make it a lot more balanced then just taking a long holiday from killing people, paying a huge fee which can be seen as an investment for killing 1.0 haulers again, or simply blowing up NPC rats.
Besides, the pirates deserve some more challenge, and the piratehunters deserve a motivation boost.
stupidest idea ever. I agree with the OP.
Private lessons? |
PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.09.30 02:35:00 -
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k paying for sec i can live with but if i wanna stay lowsec for my own reasons then i go away for 2 weeks and come back to find myself with a carebear standing no way dude screw that if im gaining 0.1 sec a day i vote that every highsec player loses 0.1 a day there ya go now its balanced...
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.09.30 03:36:00 -
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There is so much PvP in 0.0 and of course empire wars that I never fully grasped the whole 0.4-0.1 piracy I tried it once and blam my sec status went down so fast from 1 ship destruction (no podding) that I said screw this, 0.0 or empire wars for me. I guess its doable if you have a good skilled alt and the pirate char is secondary or better yet 2 active accounts. Then again I only have 1 active char in EvE so my opinion might not relat to the situation at all.
Drunkenone what are you doing now??
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Razner Cerizo
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Posted - 2005.09.30 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX
There is so much PvP in 0.0 and of course empire wars that I never fully grasped the whole 0.4-0.1 piracy I tried it once and blam my sec status went down so fast from 1 ship destruction (no podding) that I said screw this, 0.0 or empire wars for me.
Er, you get like -.2 for it. Not that much of a big deal o___O
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2005.09.30 04:46:00 -
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Hmm I normally go with the "if you cant do the time then dont so the crime" crowd especially when it comes to debates about the amount of NPC chaining required to get your SS back up. However The idea that after three months of no crime your SS Starts to slowly rise is not a bad idea 0.1 per week is fair IMHO because someone who got down around the -10 mark has a loooong wait to get back to Yulai without NPC hunting. I would also suggest that it stops at -1.5 SS so you can never be completely free of the criminal record with out some atonement for your crimes i.e NPC hunting after you get to -1.5.
I also like the idea of getting a SS increase for busting outlaw players. An increase of 0.1 everytime you podkill a -5 or lower player would be cool as well. This might go someway to encourageing people to go and break up the pirate gate camps and that is always going to be a plus as well. The bounty system is flawed in that if the bounty is low then no-one bothers to kill for the bounty and if the bounty is high then a freind of the person with the bounty often podkills them and they split the cash. On the other hand a lot of pilots want a SS increase and this would be a more entertaining way of getting one than NPC hunting especially if you don't have easy access to 0.0 for the big rats.
Just my 0.02 Isk
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.30 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mrmuttley
Hmm I normally go with the "if you cant do the time then dont so the crime" crowd especially when it comes to debates about the amount of NPC chaining required to get your SS back up. However The idea that after three months of no crime your SS Starts to slowly rise is not a bad idea 0.1 per week is fair IMHO because someone who got down around the -10 mark has a loooong wait to get back to Yulai without NPC hunting. I would also suggest that it stops at -1.5 SS so you can never be completely free of the criminal record with out some atonement for your crimes i.e NPC hunting after you get to -1.5.
I also like the idea of getting a SS increase for busting outlaw players. An increase of 0.1 everytime you podkill a -5 or lower player would be cool as well. This might go someway to encourageing people to go and break up the pirate gate camps and that is always going to be a plus as well. The bounty system is flawed in that if the bounty is low then no-one bothers to kill for the bounty and if the bounty is high then a freind of the person with the bounty often podkills them and they split the cash. On the other hand a lot of pilots want a SS increase and this would be a more entertaining way of getting one than NPC hunting especially if you don't have easy access to 0.0 for the big rats.
Just my 0.02 Isk
Your idea is exploitable. Make an alt. Get it to -10. Pod alt repeatedly. = Easy sec status fix.
Yes, sec status should repair over time. 0.1 per day sounds fair to me.
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2005.09.30 08:22:00 -
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Yes it is exploitable although it needs either a pilot with two accounts or a freind with a low sec alt. Your point is a fair one
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.09.30 09:17:00 -
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It makes sence logically. But causes some problems ingame i suppose.
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Elva 11
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Posted - 2005.09.30 09:37:00 -
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As it is now, a newcomer has no chanse to raise their sec status. If you start pirating in frigs when you start, you just wont get enough money to get a bs and hunt bs rats. Its way to hard to raise lost sec status when you are poor and new.
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Yith Solarius
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Posted - 2005.09.30 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Yith Solarius on 30/09/2005 17:12:01
I remember a thread in features and ideas a while back (sorry i can't remember who posted it) about a parole option which was clever
Basically you pay x amount (depending on the sec rate you are) to a concord agent and get placed on parole for a fixed period of time and your sec status if fixed at 0.0. When on parole you can start ratting and rather than increase sec this reduced parol duration. Once the parole period is ended you have a nice shiny 0.0 sec
If of course you do any criminal activity during this period you drop back to the sec you were before + a sec penalty for breaking parole, and you loose your parol fee.
Would that work?
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dran linfear
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Posted - 2005.09.30 17:54:00 -
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make it a skill, so youll have the choice
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Hunt Smacker
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Posted - 2005.09.30 18:08:00 -
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They should just add a bribing system... Bribe Concord for extra security standings, the higher the increase, the most ISK it costs.
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Judas Jones
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Posted - 2005.09.30 19:11:00 -
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If ebil pie-rats can 'bribe' concord to increase there sec status, then us law obiding citizens should be able to 'bribe' concord to pound on your pods or if you have a daily sec increase, then everyone above 0.0 should get a daily wallet increase, yueah, sounds good, you get 0.01 increase per day and I get 1'000'000'000 per day  yarrrwhattaloda*******s!
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kali 1212
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Posted - 2005.09.30 20:43:00 -
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im with judas whinging pie rats your criminals you chose that way of life deal with it .
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.30 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: kali 1212
im with judas whinging pie rats your criminals you chose that way of life deal with it .
you are an idiot. If a new player accidently kills some people in empire, he now has say -1 sec or soemthing. He then realizes his error and never pirates again. Since this new player doesnt have a BS and no access to 0.0, his sec will be low for a long long time, even though he isn't a pirate.
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Nalia Amor
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Posted - 2005.09.30 21:13:00 -
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Actually the current system is too easy on pirates. Has anyone considered restitution to the victims who have lost millions of isk when they get pwned. Pirates can keep their small sec increases for killing NPCs, but those bounties should go to their victims as restitution for their ebil acts.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.09.30 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: kali 1212
im with judas whinging pie rats your criminals you chose that way of life deal with it .
you are an idiot. If a new player accidently kills some people in empire, he now has say -1 sec or soemthing. He then realizes his error and never pirates again. Since this new player doesnt have a BS and no access to 0.0, his sec will be low for a long long time, even though he isn't a pirate.
Umm ok? That has nothing to do with his point. That person is not a "Criminal" so he will not shoot someone again and then from now on only gain security increases from now on. Where a "Criminal" will keep lowering just because he can. Nothing to do with the other.
The only point I could see with anyone is the fact that CCP changed the security status system without enough notice for most to change there status or even atleast reset everyone with - to 0. But that's not your arguement now is it.
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2005.09.30 22:11:00 -
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I can attest to Dunken Ones "pententence". Hes been living quietly in my system now for some weeks. Not a Yarr, WTF, OMGPWN'd in local in the time hes been here
I say /signed on this as well.
Theres a difference between your everyday killroy rat and the ones that tried it and didn't like it. Some were tricked into low sec blunders etc. Some found it wasn't thier cup of tea. Either way I say an "all is forgiven" sec raise should slowly apply as time passes and no more criminal acts transpire.
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kali 1212
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Posted - 2005.10.01 08:55:00 -
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OK SO IM AN IDIOT now the immature name calling is over id like to say that when i was very new to eve i couldent kill a space fly let alone anything liable to get me a sec hit . god judas jones is handsome
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.10.01 09:35:00 -
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Maybe have the sec raise while it's above a certain threshold.
While you are above -5 sec rating it will slowly go up by maybe 0.05 per day.
Once you go below -5 though you don't get any increase. Once you become an outlaw you gotta do your time (npc grinding) to get back.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.01 15:03:00 -
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Also it should be a thing you should sign up for like parole, I was so close to being -10 and then some1 in my gang shot a gate rat and bam fubared ss
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