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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.07.31 20:48:00 -
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How about fixing it?
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DeltroNomicoN
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Posted - 2003.07.31 21:14:00 -
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please fix it.
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Keltin
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Posted - 2003.07.31 21:32:00 -
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Fix what about it?
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pyrex
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Posted - 2003.07.31 23:09:00 -
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Please fix it.
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Elemental Shadow
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Posted - 2003.08.01 00:48:00 -
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Although mining drone skill allows you to use drones, training it to level 2 or higher doesn't increase the amount of ore the drones mine.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.08.01 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Bashar on 03/08/2003 15:40:45
yes please fix it, I know they know about it and even said they had fixed it once...but I'm still seeing no differnce in mining drone speed or amount based on skill levels (some people say its afects speed some say amount)
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Keltin
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Posted - 2003.08.01 05:19:00 -
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Well so far my drones are getting 10% more ore per trip just like they should.
I have been watching it very closely and ever since last patch it has been working fine, I only use 3 drones so maybe more than three is causing a problem?
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.08.01 06:35:00 -
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please fix it (if it was fixed thoses harvester drones would be getting 2 bistot per cycle, not 1... big difference :) )
please fix it :)
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Ogmios
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Posted - 2003.08.01 07:56:00 -
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The bonus it gives is not to the fixed size cargo hold of the drones but to thier speed at harvesting. So as you level up the skill, they go faster making more trips per hour instead.
i.e. At level 2 (+10%), instead of say 50 round trips per hour they can make 55 round trips per hour. Though its hard to really notice this unless you are glued to the roid so they dont have to travel far.
I have noticed that they unload faster than my mining lasers do. When I start, they both unload about the same time, but after a while, they are several seconds ahead of the mining laser cycle.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.01 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Bon Hedus on 01/08/2003 11:32:15
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The bonus it gives is not to the fixed size cargo hold of the drones but to thier speed at harvesting. So as you level up the skill, they go faster making more trips per hour instead
If this is the case, then the description to the skill should say "gives 5% bonus to mining speed".
5% bonus to mining YEILD infers quantity/amount of ore mined.
I'm sorry but either change the description because it is misleading, or FIX THE DANG SKILL.
Thanks.
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.08.01 11:40:00 -
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fix the skill, better that way so it works like mining (and because i want that extra bistot per harvester ;p)
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Scampi Friti
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Posted - 2003.08.01 11:47:00 -
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The drones have a fixed amount of cargo so u won't see them dump bigger amounts in your cargo they just fill theirs faster and thus fly faster back to your ship.
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Cleric
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Posted - 2003.08.01 12:24:00 -
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I'm with Muaddid, bring on the 2 bistot per cycle! All they need to do is increase the cargo capacity of the harvewster from 30 to 32. Pruty Puhleasssssse!
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.01 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Bon Hedus on 01/08/2003 14:37:53
The drones don't need a "fixed cargo hold." There is the Planck Bubble Technology now. Instead of the 30m3 cargo hold, drone YIELD at 2x mining drone skill should be 33.075m3. It isn't so the skill must be broken
Also, they don't mine any faster. They still have a cycle time of 60 seconds. If the skill was modifying that, it should be 54.15 seconds for lvl 2 mining drone skill. It isn't. The skills should say 5% bonus to MINING SPEED. It doesn't so the skill must be broken.
If the skill was modifying the Drone speed, Harvesters travel at 250 m/s. They still travel at 250 m/s at mining drone lvl 2 instead of the 275.625 they would be at if the skill was working. The skill doesn't say +5% bonus to mining drone SPEED. The skill must be broken.
I'm sorry but your arguments are bogus. The skill is broken and should be fixed.
Thanks
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.01 23:47:00 -
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bump, because I would like to know
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.02 23:42:00 -
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I would still like to know the Dev's view on this. It would settle a lot of issues.
Thanks
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Mjr Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.03 01:55:00 -
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Quote:
The drones have a fixed amount of cargo so u won't see them dump bigger amounts in your cargo they just fill theirs faster and thus fly faster back to your ship.
Yup, drones do have a fixed cargo hold. Last time I checked (about 15 seconds ago), it was 1200. So they should have more than enough space for a second bistot rock. 
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.03 14:54:00 -
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I raised a similar question over a month ago. I put in 2 detailed bug reports and waited patiently through 2 patches. The arguments from my question and questions raised by others went back and forth across the boards over whether the skill was broken or not and at no time did a Dev step in and say anything. Also, nothing changed with the skill.
I firmly believe the skill is broken and should be fixed. At this time none of the variables on the drone have been changed by my mining drone lvl 2 skill.
The way the skill description is worded infers that the skill should add to the amount the drones mine and not to the speed of the drone or how fast it mines.
I do not feel like letting this subject die, so I will keep bumping it until one of 3 things happen.
1. The devs respond and let us know the deal.
2. The skill gets fixed.
3. This thread gets locked.
Thanks.
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Kalar Vrask
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Posted - 2003.08.04 01:01:00 -
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I agree, it's broken, please fix, it does jack atm
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.08.04 01:23:00 -
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If it is broken then I agree it should be fixed. I used drones to mine and I'm don't want to waste points training ANOTHER skill that doesn't work like my Trade skill, my Barter skill, my Black Market skill.... I know you people have other skills that don't work. Formation skills anyone?
Also fix Serpentis Drug Couriers armor. 
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Katt
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Posted - 2003.08.04 06:14:00 -
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This appears to be fixed on Tranquility now...
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nono
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Posted - 2003.08.04 06:22:00 -
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NO it's not fixed on tranquility.
No matter what the skill is supposed to do, speed up the time it takes to mine the ore and return, or in fact increase the yeild per minute, it does neither one.
This has not worked since release to my knowledge. It worked fine at the end of beta.
In fact they take longer then one minute as the return slowly creeps based against the cycle time of miners. Miners hit every minute and you notice the return of the drones gets longer and longer past each miner cycle.
This is now based on harvesters but it was the same with basic drones. At one point they didn't work at all and just lollied about maybe returning some ore if they felt like it. It's been a while since i've used those.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.04 10:07:00 -
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Mining skill description for Lasers: Skill for mining asteroids. +5% Bonus to mining yield. What it does is give 5% to the mining laser skill which is an increase in the amount of ore mined.
Mining skill description for drones: Skill at controlling mining drones. 5% Bonus to mining drone yield.
Hmmm... lets see... similar wording, one gives an increase to the amount of ore mined and not to the cycle time of the miners. Wow! Following that train of logic you might expect the drones to increase the amount of ore they are carrying and not to their flight speed or laser cycle time.
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Ralek
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Posted - 2003.08.04 10:25:00 -
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I asked this question to the devs on the CSM meeting before the last one. The answer from TRL was that the skill is indeed broken and that they would give a higher priority to fixing it. Also remember that the dev in charge of skills has been away for a while (can't remember if he was sick or on holydays).
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XCalibre
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Posted - 2003.08.04 10:58:00 -
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Mining drones do take exactly a minute to mine the ore. But they also take time to travel to and from the rock you're mining. This is why I always park right next to one rock and use my drones on it while mining another one with my lasers, reduces the time it takes them to travel and means I don't have to move for a while.
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ChaoticGhost
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Posted - 2003.08.04 14:42:00 -
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if you look at the details of the mining drone skill it says 'miningdronespeedbonus' and under it -5. from this i conclude that when you train the skill the drones go slower. good job ccp. (although i could be wrong)
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.08.04 19:07:00 -
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Often you cant rely on the stats page, because for skills such as hull upgrades, it gives 5% armor like the description says, but the stat page says 10% to armor and 5% to hull, which would make it a -bit- too good compared to the others...
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The answer from TRL was that the skill is indeed broken and that they would give a higher priority to fixing it. Also remember that the dev in charge of skills has been away for a while
*nods* i remember reading that, and in the last dev chat, the skill guy was back if i remember right, so if we keep bugging them they might just icnerase the priority of that skill enough so it makes it in a patch... within a year
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ElAwrence
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Posted - 2003.08.04 21:55:00 -
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Please fix the skill. It shouldn't just be exploiters that are moving ahead in the game. If I use the ingame system to train a skill, I should benefit from that training.
You should also add the drones in the drone bay to the ship repair menu. "Repair all" would then repair the drones I am carrying.
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Praetorion
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Posted - 2003.08.04 22:16:00 -
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Skills increase the size of some ships cargo holds and other "phyiscal" changes to vessels like increasing structure and hps etc. I see no reason why skills should not have the same effect on drones, and every reason FOR it to work this way: So this skill finally works and works visibly so we can move on.
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.08.04 22:58:00 -
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why you care about mining drones skills, the level is actually free for me I only trained to lv1, now I'm at lv3, so if it's not working, I still lose nothing.... and if it's working, then it's a bonus for me
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Isomerone
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Posted - 2003.08.05 07:32:00 -
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Edited by: Isomerone on 05/08/2003 07:35:38
I should create a game were people pay me to do nothing all day except make excuses.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2003.08.05 14:19:00 -
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why you care about mining drones skills, the level is actually free for me I only trained to lv1, now I'm at lv3, so if it's not working, I still lose nothing.... and if it's working, then it's a bonus for me
and if its effect works in reverse ?
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:39:00 -
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bump
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Knaar
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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:01:00 -
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The skill is broken. I don't care if you claim that they mine faster because they don't. No it has not been fixed yet. I should be mining much faster than I am with 8 harvesters, but I'm not. All my harvs take a little more than 60 secs to mine a full load and drop it in my hold, just like they used to. Still only 50 omber just like they used to.
The mining drone skill has the same wording as the mining skill. Increase to *yield*. That doesn't mean they mine faster because I've timed them... a little over 60 seconds with mining drone skill at level 3, and me being right next to the roid. My lasers take exactly 60 secs. The drones are a little slower because they fly about and stuff.
I want it fixed. Only using 16 of 30 m3 on bistot is stupid when I should be using 32 of 33 m3 on bistot. BIG difference. Fix it.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:04:00 -
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bump (again)
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:37:00 -
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*looks to see if anything "official" was posted*
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.09 00:31:00 -
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still bumping
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ElAwrence
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Posted - 2003.08.09 02:05:00 -
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bump
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.09 04:19:00 -
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This skill, properly working, would be a great thing. There are other skills that need similar fixes, like scout drone skill.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.11 12:40:00 -
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bump
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.12 10:21:00 -
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bump
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.12 18:05:00 -
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*still bumping this thread*
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.13 10:18:00 -
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bump
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.13 15:43:00 -
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bump
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.13 16:24:00 -
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I'll raise your bump, and bump again.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.14 01:43:00 -
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bump
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.08.14 02:17:00 -
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nothing about it in patch notes.... i thought it had been increased in the priority list ? 
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.14 15:07:00 -
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No info about this on the upcoming patch notes. My guess is that it still isn't fixed.
Hello... can we get some joy here?
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:59:00 -
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still bumping
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.15 23:56:00 -
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it isn't fixed yet, so I am still bumping this post
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.08.16 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Daan on 16/08/2003 11:33:46
*bumps it right into the devs face
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.16 21:17:00 -
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still bumping
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nono
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Posted - 2003.08.17 01:52:00 -
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Bumping is not allowed on these forums * smirk*
I'll bet the only notice this gets is a lock.
BTW Drones still don't work. If it hasn't been said enough times.
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.17 02:19:00 -
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A lock with a dev or polaris reply would be just fine.
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2003.08.17 03:30:00 -
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Cant lock it because I'm Sensor Dampening the thread...
Oh crap... I CTD'd 
Seriously though it would help to know when this is going to be fixed.
What other skills are broken... Is Trade skill still borked too?
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.17 20:42:00 -
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just wanted to let people know that this skill is still not fixed.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:14:00 -
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not fixed yet (no longer a bump, just a friendly service annoucement )
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.18 16:27:00 -
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Maybe this skill will be fixed when they add "deep core mining," as mentioned in the latest patchlog from Traveler.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.19 11:00:00 -
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the skill still isn't fixed
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Harkov
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Posted - 2003.08.19 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Harkov on 19/08/2003 13:12:21
has anyone considered posting some data to support the claims that this doesn't work? i'd go do it, but hey...extended downtime
something like...
Mining Drones Level 1
1 Harvester Drone
1500m from [Ore Type] Rock
14:00:00 Select All/Mine Repeatedly
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
Mining Drones Level 2
1 Harvester Drone
1500m from [Ore Type] Rock
14:00:00 Select All/Mine Repeatedly
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
Mining Drones Level 3
1 Harvester Drone
1500m from [Ore Type] Rock
14:00:00 Select All/Mine Repeatedly
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
Mining Drones Level 4
1 Harvester Drone
1500m from [Ore Type] Rock
14:00:00 Select All/Mine Repeatedly
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
14:0X:XX Deposited X [Ore Type]
this might take some time, but i could do this for the mining drones level 3, if we could get someone to do it for drones 1, 2 and 4...we could have a nice set of information to post up. Perhaps just stick to a simple ore type, like Scordite. We can then try and vary the range at which the mining is done, and vary the number of harvesters.
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.19 13:32:00 -
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I'm not about to log that information, mostly because you, yourself, can do it whenever you feel like it.
A very simple test would be to use Harvester drones on Crokite. If you had lvl 2 mining drone skill (30*1.1=33,), you should be able to mine 2 units of crokite/minute/mining drone, assuming you are fairly close to the asteroid your drones are mining at. This is not the case: my harvesters still mine 1 unit of crokite per minute, and I have lvl 3 mining drone operation. I know this is per minute because, when next to the asteroid being mined, drones return synchronously with my mining laser return.
Additionally, you should find this information when drones are launched under show info. Show info indicates that the harvester, no matter what your skill level is, mines the same amount and moves at the same speed.
Thus, as per this thread's topic title: mining drone skill does not impliment the mining drone mining rate bonus: either in shorter transit time or in quantity.
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Harkov
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Posted - 2003.08.19 13:55:00 -
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but you have posted absolutely no data to support this. if i were a developer, and read this thread, i'd see about 50% of the messages here are just 'bump'.
all this skill should affect is the velocity of your drones. so if you're mining from >1500 meters, it should make a slight difference. the description says yield, the attributes previously said velocity.
this is why i want to see those numbers, perhaps at 1500 and 6000 meters, from people with different skill levels. it takes all of 5 minutes to do.
From 1500m - scordite
1 harvester, mining drones level 3
1:05-200 units
1:08-200 units
1:03-200 units
1:04-200 units
1:06-200 units
From 6000m - scordite
1 harvester, mining drones level 3
1:26-200 units
1:28-200 units
1:27-200 units
1:29-200 units
1:25-200 units
i am really getting sick of people who complain about things but don't do anything about it. if you have a gripe, at least try to be part of the solution. your rude posts do nothing but aggravate people.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:28:00 -
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Actually Harkov it is easier than that. Just open your drone info while in space mining. If the skill was working you would see some type of change to the info.
Harvester Mining Drones:
Speed 250m/s (no change)
Mining cycle time 60sec (no change)
Ore capacity 30m3 (no change)
I have mining drone 2 and soon to have lvl 3. This has remained the same since lvl 1. The Mining Drone skill reads that it increases ore YEILD, and if you read the information on mining lasers it is basically the same. Also the same wording for Astrogeology which also increases ore YEILD from the mining lasers.
The only conclusion you can reach from this is that the skill is broken.
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:05:00 -
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What Bon Hedus said is exactly what I was trying to say. If there's is a description problem in "show info", it needs to be fixed. If there is a description problem in the skill (there is, no matter what the skill actually does, either velocity increase or mining rate increase), it needs to be fixed. If the skill is not applying any bonuses, which it isn't (unless it's velocity which is difficult to quantify exactly, as they spread out a bit and stagger themselves when dropping minerals off to you), it should be fixed.
A developer response would certainly be helpful to describe the modalities of the problem, so we wouldn't have to have these misunderstandings.
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:19:00 -
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Harkov:
I see your point regarding the data. For some stupid reason I didn't think about comparing it to people of different skill level. I will attempt to gather some this evening.
No matter what the result of my data will be, the description of the skill is this:
%5 bonus to mining drone yield.
What does that mean? It certainly doesn't sound like the drone moves at a faster velocity. It sounds like a quantity of mined minerals. Yield also sounds like a rate of speed increase. I'll bet this is supposed to indicate an increased amount of mined ore/minute. But, the description is not obvious about it. The description for the skill can be totally incorrect though, it has been known to happen. That would be a description bug.
In case this skill gives a bonus to mining drone velocity, we should be able to check this with some data from a couple different skill levels. However, no change in velocity over mining drone base is to be found in "show info" when the mining drones are active. Therefore, any change that exists is not getting reported, and that is a bug.
So, lets get some data and eliminate some possibilities of what the bug could be. Make sure to note though, that whatever is found, there is still *some* type of bug with this skill.
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Aldebaran
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Aldebaran on 19/08/2003 20:01:15
Edited by: Aldebaran on 19/08/2003 20:00:17
As usual CCP devs are too busy implementing new stuffs, who care about this old bbb... urg feature. [Sarcastic mode off].
Same thing can be said to the stuck-at-roid-while-in-warp bug.
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Harkov
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:30:00 -
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So, lets get some data and eliminate some possibilities of what the bug could be. Make sure to note though, that whatever is found, there is still *some* type of bug with this skill.
I totally agree, there is definitely a bug here, if not several. Hopefully, if we can provide some concrete evidence more attention will be brought to the problem.
I simply mentioned the velocity, because the 'attributes' of the skill had previously been marked -5 to velocity. though this doesn't seem to be the case anymore. and i would agree, you'd think this would change the 250m/s. but note, heavy drone damage is supposed to be fixed, and the 5% damage isn't reflected in the 'show info' for say a wasp.
I would suspect there is no difference in harvester velocity, and even if there was, most people mining very close to the roid anyway, to decrease travel time. The skill should be to increase the yield of the drone, thereby decreasing the time he spends at the roid. but i've never heard any official statement on this either way...
so if someone with mining drones 1 or 2 or even 4 (is there anyone?). could simply time the runs at 1500 and 6000m of scordite, that would be awesome. maybe it's a complete waste of time, but hopefully someone will take notice and do something to rectify the situation.
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:43:00 -
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Yes, there are also problems with Heavy Drone and Scout Drone skills, covered in other posts.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.20 10:16:00 -
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still not fixed
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.21 01:31:00 -
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Ralek > was asked before... skill is not working... you said it was given a higher priority, but as far as I can tell its not fixed on chaos
TomB > Mining Drone skill not giving cargo extra cargo space will most likely also get fixed before next patch.
CSM Chat Log
OK, this is what I am talking about. The Mining Drone Skill should be giving +5% cargo per skill level.
Thank you very much TomB
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.08.21 02:50:00 -
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btw, the heavy drone skill does work, i tested the dmg done one someon, and his dmg log clearly showed that the dmg dealt by the heavy drones was modified by the heavy drone skill... at least some of the drone skills works
anyway, lets hope this time itll really get fixed (mining drone skill) 
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.23 14:35:00 -
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Although it is not fixed as of yet, there appears to be light at the end of the tunnel.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.28 17:23:00 -
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Just got back from vacation/holiday, has this been fixed yet?
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Brennan Mulwray
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Posted - 2003.08.28 18:50:00 -
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my vote for fixing this asap plz!
Thanks! 
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.29 16:41:00 -
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still not fixed
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.08.29 18:22:00 -
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Bon Hedus,
I applaud your persistence. I too would like to see this skill fixed.
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Trav Kaelor
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Posted - 2003.08.29 22:49:00 -
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please fix this skill, it should be easy enough to do, just copy the same formula you use for mining skill...
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.08.31 02:05:00 -
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Well, the skill still isn't fixed and yes I am obviously on a mission to get it fixed. If anyone would like to help keep this thread near the top I would appreciate the help. Let's let the Dev's know this is important to some of us.
Thanks
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Vultair
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Posted - 2003.08.31 11:05:00 -
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 BUMP... still waiting
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Gunship
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Posted - 2003.08.31 11:21:00 -
[80]
please fix it
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Kashej
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Posted - 2003.08.31 11:29:00 -
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Have to be fixed in next patch
Good Luck
O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei.
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Johnson McCrae
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Posted - 2003.08.31 12:02:00 -
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Minor point, and you people will not like it.
How do you apply mods to items not directly attached to your ship?
I cant tell if my missile skills are affecting the missiles I launch, let alone drones. The only skill that drones are affected by is the 1 skill that only adds 10k to their range (and not 10k per level, don't even go there).
It ain't over till the fat lady falls on ya!
[ 2004.10.09 02:50:23 ] (combat) Your 425mm Compressed Coil Gun I perfectly strikes Guardian Sentry, wrecking for 747.3 damage.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.01 12:11:00 -
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The arguements are posted somewhere beyond all the bumps. This skill is still broken. Please fix it for the next patch.
Thanks
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Kashej
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:29:00 -
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Missiles fixed, that should mean they resolve problem with not attached modules, fix mining drone skill please ;]
Good Luck
O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei.
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Lijah Reaper
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:13:00 -
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I saw the missile skills were changed to all velocity bonuses for each missile type. I assume this was prioritized for the overall missile effectiveness change.
Obviously the mining drone skill fix still needs to be made, but I would be happy just hearing something like "Next patch will include updates to drones and drone skills". That next patch could be after this weeks turret/missile/battleship/UI change. I'd just like to hear the issue addressed.
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elementalSEVEN
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:17:00 -
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This is just about the first time i have been to the forums... interesting subject .
I have notaced that there is no admin/gm/ccp reply, I would of thought that someone would of at least try'd to put some minds at rest on this issue, now im a bit  cos i have this skill up to lvl 4 and that takes a little time, im not to happy if i have wasted my time on this skill.
Will someone ie developer etc etc. Who knows the score please post something up on here, aint you embarrsed ccp
I know im ranting, but at least acknowledge all these posts
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Ruffles
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:49:00 -
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I tested this on Chaos in the post 1165 build and mining drones were indeed returning a greater yield. I haven't re-tested with the 1189+ builds, and I haven't tested beyond level 2 in mining drones yet, but I will try ;)
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.04 10:24:00 -
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Ruffles, that is good to hear. Thanks for the update.
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Uxinn
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:12:00 -
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Any confirmation from the dev's on this ?
cheers,
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.05 10:57:00 -
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I haven't heard anything official yet.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:18:00 -
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This skill still isn't working on Tranquility
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.09 11:33:00 -
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As of last night (9-8-03) the mining drone skill still wasn't fixed.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.09.09 15:26:00 -
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they will not... **** told me they will propably change to something alse..
like faster mining drones or better life or something... so cry now
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nono
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Posted - 2003.09.09 16:36:00 -
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Somewhere TomB did say something about the cargo space on drones being upped to account for this. Havn't heard or seen anything since.
I think it was in a CSM chat if someone has the posts saved.
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.10 18:08:00 -
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Somewhere TomB did say something about the cargo space on drones being upped to account for this. Havn't heard or seen anything since.
I think it was in a CSM chat if someone has the posts saved.
There is a link to it on one of these crazy pages. Just an update, this skill still isn't fixed on Tranquility.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2003.09.10 18:32:00 -
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I had a go on chaos last night, the old copy of my character (mining drone 1 skill) launched a harvester at a veld roid with the order to mine, it got 31m3 instead of the standard 30m3 .. so its working (sort of, given 30 * 1.05 = 31.5m3 but I reported the glitch along with my other findings in TomB's drone balancing feedback thread :) so hopefully its an easy fix)
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DaniB
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Posted - 2003.09.12 14:09:00 -
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this skill really need to be fixed!
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.14 02:02:00 -
[98]
While playing on Chaos today (9-13) I found that the Mining drone skill is fixed there. Hopefully it will follow through with the patch
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Kennian
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Posted - 2003.09.16 07:17:00 -
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Zyrla, <if you read this post again> in EVE ALL fractions are droped....realy annoying when you have 71.99999 <repeating> and cant mine that extra bis :D
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Ashton Black
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Posted - 2003.09.16 13:26:00 -
[100]
*cough bump.... fix it... *cough
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Ruby LeFonte
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Posted - 2003.09.16 13:29:00 -
[101]
Nothing in the patch notes about a fix...
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ElAwrence
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: ElAwrence on 17/09/2003 14:57:45
Bump
No info in the 1215 Patch Notes and the server is on it's 4th hour of Maintenance so I cannot check to see if it is fixed. However, if I let history be a guide...
Please fix it.
ôWhen there is something to be said, it is better if it is said right away. If it is said later, it will sound like an excuse. Moreover, it is occasionally good to really overwhelm your opponent. Also, in addition to having spoken sufficiently it is the highest sort of victory to teach your opponent something that will be to his benefit. This is in accordance with the Way.ö
Hagakure: The Book of the Samurai
Yamamoto Tsunetomo, translated by William Scott Wilson
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TOZI
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:30:00 -
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i also have seen no diff in mine drone speed or amount i use 9 harvesters and have lvl 4 mine drone skill and at each lvl hoped for an increase  but alas, none.
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Valorian
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:49:00 -
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And about the rounding, why is everything rounded so much?
Eg Mining laser yields
Miner 1 has base yield 40
if you have Mining 4 and Astrogeology 2
Yield = 52.8 (per show info)
52.8 = 40 * 1.2 * 1.1
Per cycle of Veldspar you get 520 (not 528). Is there some reason the mining laser's yield gets rounded AFTER being modified by skills and what is displayed in "Show Info" and BEFORE actual use on the asteroid?
Eg 52.8/0.35 =150 rounded down
52/0.35 = 148 rounded down
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Bon Hedus
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Posted - 2003.09.17 17:07:00 -
[105]
Mining drone skill seems to be fixed. With Mining Drone lvl 2, I am getting 2 units of bistot (16m/3) per cycle per drone. That is where it is supposed to be.
Thank You.
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ElAwrence
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Posted - 2003.09.17 18:14:00 -
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It is fixed in release 1215.
Thanx alot CCP!!!!!!!
ôWhen there is something to be said, it is better if it is said right away. If it is said later, it will sound like an excuse. Moreover, it is occasionally good to really overwhelm your opponent. Also, in addition to having spoken sufficiently it is the highest sort of victory to teach your opponent something that will be to his benefit. This is in accordance with the Way.ö
Hagakure: The Book of the Samurai
Yamamoto Tsunetomo, translated by William Scott Wilson
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