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Okan Caldari
Stinger Corporation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:04:00 -
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Yes - When is POCO going to be implemented?
I didn't see anything in the devblog about that...
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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:09:00 -
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In the main thread I believe he said everything is ready to go, but they either don't have a time worked out yet, or they just don't want to say.
Theres a lot of info not covered in the dev blog in that thread, I really reccomend reading it, otherwise its just going to be the same questions asked again. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
658
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:11:00 -
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GǪif only there was some thread where the devs kept looking and provided answers to questions relevant to a recently posted blog. 
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GÇö Karath Piki-á |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
79
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:16:00 -
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I thought they are still working out some things.. like how to do it in nullsec. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:18:00 -
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The answer is in the dev blog thread. There are search tools. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:49:00 -
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Oye! Tenes un POCO? 
Don't you love word play? |
Hiram Alexander
Capital Enrichment Services
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Posted - 2011.10.18 23:34:00 -
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I believe they said somewhere between 'American Thanksgiving' and Christmas, which for the Google impaired, would imply somewhere between the 24th Nov and 25th Dec 2011. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
257
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Posted - 2011.10.19 05:34:00 -
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Hiram Alexander wrote:I believe they said somewhere between 'American Thanksgiving' and Christmas, which for the Google impaired, would imply somewhere between the 24th Nov and 25th Dec 2011.
This is correct (please see this post for more information).
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator
@ccp_spitfire |
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Trespasser
Isotope Incorporated
Exiled Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 05:37:00 -
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this is one of the worst Idea's ccp ever had, if they have any brains left they will trash this idea and move on to stuff that needs fixed like pos's and super capitals, assault frigs, diemos etc etc.
The only change they need to make to PI is allowing you to select all of you factorys to set the item type on all at once. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
81
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:05:00 -
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Yeah, it's annoying how they can't work on fixing super capitals, assault frigates and hybrid guns, when they're focused on this useless PI stuff.
This of course explains why Goons attacked ice. They probably thought, well we can't mess around with the PI side of it, but the ice is fair game. Then when the new CO comes in, the people with a POS get hit with price jumps, right after we've messed with the price of ice.
See the price jump of the Advanced PI products already. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:18:00 -
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non judgement wrote:See the price jump of the Advanced PI products already.
The only reason why I support this change.
Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
mkint
152
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:28:00 -
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It's kind of amusing how CCP's whole "we're sorry, we messed up and are going to listen to the players from now on" doesn't apply to this project. A quick browse through the comments thread has every dev post being "nuh-uh, players aren't gonna do what you players are saying you're gonna do, you're gonna do what the magical unicorns in our marketing department say you're gonna do." |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
81
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:38:00 -
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They also say that they're going to watch what happens and change things if it doesn't work, like they thought it would. |
mkint
152
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:48:00 -
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non judgement wrote:They also say that they're going to watch what happens and change things if it doesn't work, like they thought it would.
Read carefullyer... they change things. Or they might let it fall apart around them for 18 months after failing to work well. Or magical workshop gnomes might show up at night and do the talented development work while everyone else on the PI team is sleeping. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
81
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:56:00 -
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They "might" not have to change anything, if it works well enough. We'll see what happens first and then you can say "I told you so", if it doesn't work ;P |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
164
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Posted - 2011.10.19 09:50:00 -
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Just read about this coming feature and thought "yet another thing that will aggravate alot of highsec dwellers"..
I kind of like the idea but don't approve of the increased costs for using CONCORD owned Custom Offices.
Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes
Needs a banner here.. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
69
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:01:00 -
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mkint wrote:It's kind of amusing how CCP's whole "we're sorry, we messed up and are going to listen to the players from now on" doesn't apply to this project. A quick browse through the comments thread has every dev post being "nuh-uh, players aren't gonna do what you players are saying you're gonna do, you're gonna do what the magical unicorns in our marketing department say you're gonna do."
A quick look also shows a lot of support, HOW THE **** CAN CCP LISTEN IF YOU DON'T LET THEM YOU ASS
**** they just proposed the idea to us AFTER telling the CSM, which obviously didn't oppose it!
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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
69
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:02:00 -
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Nyio wrote:Just read about this coming feature and thought "yet another thing that will aggravate alot of highsec dwellers"..
I kind of like the idea but don't approve of the increased costs for using CONCORD owned Custom Offices.
Sorry you don't want to pay more for your FREE ISK FAUCET |
Susiqueta Muir
Disturbed Blood Astrometrics
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:02:00 -
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No problems bar one with this as an idea, why have player owned CO's when surely it would be better to have player owned launchpads instead?
Instead of everyone having their own launchpad, make it so that only one could be placed on a planet and ownership of this could be changed through either orbital bombardment or PI created (or purchased) security forces. This would enable the different players using a planet to link their infrastructures together through a single hub, something to fight over (to set the taxes etc.) and when Dust 514 comes along, something for the dust-mites to fight over for the capsuleers....
Bar that, i like it.. :)
SM. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
69
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:03:00 -
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mkint wrote:non judgement wrote:They also say that they're going to watch what happens and change things if it doesn't work, like they thought it would. Read carefullyer... they change things. Or they might let it fall apart around them for 18 months after failing to work well. Or magical workshop gnomes might show up at night and do the talented development work while everyone else on the PI team is sleeping.
you're such a douche bag
CCP has clearly changed directions here. They are FINALLY DOING MORE THAN ONE THING AT ONCE and you attack them for it. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
82
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:34:00 -
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[quote=Apollo Gabrielyou're such a douche bag
CCP has clearly changed directions here. They are FINALLY DOING MORE THAN ONE THING AT ONCE and you attack them for it.[/quote]
That's just the way mkint is. They might have good reason for their views on CCP. Shouldn't judge people when you don't know them. Even if they do come across as a bit of a douche bag.
mkint usually seems to have a fair idea about most things EVE and CCP related. It's just a bit of a negative view. |
Citizen Smif
Incursion Runners inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:03:00 -
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WTF is everyone on about? Can't tell if some people are being sarcastic or not.. I think this is great. Everyone complains about CCP creating features which aren't completely finished then leaving them broken for years. This is an example of them listening to the player base and not doing that. And in regards to Super-caps, assault frigates and POS's: they're doing them at the same time? Lol some people must be trolling, if you are - bad trolls! |
rodyas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:16:00 -
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Some people are just annoyed, with the announcement of all the new features and being really excited about them are slightly dissapointed that this is announced over those. It like a father has a favorite child.
Supers were announced and capitals, but some are still excited about the hybrids and assault frigs. We even got ship spinning back and that PI and its still a bit sad no word on hybrids or that frig I suppose. |
Trainwreck McGee
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:21:00 -
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looks like im holding on to my giant stack of rocket fuel and coolant until this clusterfuk hits
CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
mkint
153
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:39:00 -
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Actually, I do like the idea of this being player run... I think it opens up opportunities for interesting gameplay. What I don't like is CCP Omen's dismissive attitude. It's the same attitude CCP took with the dread changes with Dominion. It's an attitude that says "I'm right, you're wrong, lalalala" and has lead to :18months: of broken gameplay in so many different areas of the game. They are deliberately ignoring player concerns. Just flip through the dev blog thread and read how CCP Omen responds to player concerns. Not once does he say "oh, good point, let me fix that" even when it's an issue on the absurdity scale of :target painting POS structures and supercaps: parallels from Dominion. Some of his suggestions about how it will play are clearly delusional to anyone who's even so much as played a trial. With the level of dev delusion in the thread, we really can only hope those workshop gnomes fix it while CCP Omen is sleeping, because that is far more likely an event than the PI team actually listening to the people who actually play the game. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
70
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Posted - 2011.10.19 17:57:00 -
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mkint wrote:Actually, I do like the idea of this being player run... I think it opens up opportunities for interesting gameplay. What I don't like is CCP Omen's dismissive attitude. It's the same attitude CCP took with the dread changes with Dominion. It's an attitude that says "I'm right, you're wrong, lalalala" and has lead to :18months: of broken gameplay in so many different areas of the game. They are deliberately ignoring player concerns. Just flip through the dev blog thread and read how CCP Omen responds to player concerns. Not once does he say "oh, good point, let me fix that" even when it's an issue on the absurdity scale of :target painting POS structures and supercaps: parallels from Dominion. Some of his suggestions about how it will play are clearly delusional to anyone who's even so much as played a trial. With the level of dev delusion in the thread, we really can only hope those workshop gnomes fix it while CCP Omen is sleeping, because that is far more likely an event than the PI team actually listening to the people who actually play the game.
Now, in my mind this is a valid and RELEVANT point to raise.
What I read when CCP Omen said: The code was ready and then we're eliciting preferences.
He meant that: CCP is actually ABLE to do it now and NOT some pie in the sky idea 18 months from now.
As far as him being dismissive, I think it is eye of the beholder, as some of the early posts were IMNSHO were whines and kneejerk reactions, which in all honestly, they've likely heard and reasoned through many of them already. Where CCP still needs to excel is in communicating a REAL FAQ or FRO (Frequently Raised Objections), as they could save a lot of time making the devblogs a little longer with more of the "by the way we already heard these objections and here is how we handled them".
Also mkint, I rescind my previous douche bag accusation, I have promised myself NOT to post here before coffee, and I often break that promise.
AG |
pooper stain
Adventurers
Matari Visionary Coalition
5
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:10:00 -
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My only comment is this...
Intresting idea...I am willing to give it a go. But for the love of blueberries CCP PLEASE increase the command center launch from 500m3 to 2000m3 or higher. 500 is just stupidly low. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
70
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:33:00 -
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pooper stain wrote:My only comment is this...
Intresting idea...I am willing to give it a go. But for the love of blueberries CCP PLEASE increase the command center launch from 500m3 to 2000m3 or higher. 500 is just stupidly low.
I agree CC are not very useful other than lumps on a planet. I seldom if ever actually use them for even their storage, and now that CO are changing, it makes sense to do this change.
AG |
Riedle
Paradox Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:54:00 -
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Trespasser wrote:this is one of the worst Idea's ccp ever had, if they have any brains left they will trash this idea and move on to stuff that needs fixed like pos's and super capitals, assault frigs, diemos etc etc.
The only change they need to make to PI is allowing you to select all of you factorys to set the item type on all at once.
PI Carebear spotted |
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