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Guvante
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Posted - 2005.10.03 20:14:00 -
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Warp bubbles pulling you out of warp is a needed feature, because otherwise you would have to equally camp both sides of a gate to catch anyone
With instas, I can warp to what is considered 0m from the gate, there is no way you can pop me at that distance from jumping, but because the warp bubble pulls you out of warp, you get caught by the gate camp
This way the  can "WTFPWN" the  (Like me) who can't/won't do anything in 0.0 without instas, which is the way I believe it should be
Personally I would love to see the warp bubble be able to pull people out at a random safespot somewhere between the gates, that way, you would be really screwed, as would the pirates once the cavelry arrived 
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.10.03 20:21:00 -
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What would be VERY interesting is if someone actually tested pulling people out of warp in mid jump, ie NOT at the gates themselves. Imagine setting up a POS at a moon in between two gates and pulling people from warp :) Time to do more testing...
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RabbidFerret
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:39:00 -
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 Originally by: VonKaplanek III
What would be VERY interesting is if someone actually tested pulling people out of warp in mid jump, ie NOT at the gates themselves. Imagine setting up a POS at a moon in between two gates and pulling people from warp :) Time to do more testing...
You stole my idea! I just posted on my corp webstie asking if it would work. Set 6 of them up mid way through 2 gates and let the "Fish swim into the net".
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Keta Min
they are working fine. it's a good feature that they suck you in. smart people don't warp to bubbled gates, just look at them and don't do it either.
Psychic people, you mean. I've yet to have any campers tell me in advance that they've deployed warp bubbles.
i don't think someone is psychic if he sees a bunch of hostiles in local and drains his cap to warp to a gate scan point when there are no other objects near.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:48:00 -
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Boubbles working fine, and I can anchor it to the correct position so it will suck in anything warping from a chosen direction in 100% of the time... they are fine.
Smart ppl simply do not jump into boubbles.... 
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.10.03 22:16:00 -
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They are broken.
Folks who use them know this and laugh it up all the live long day.
There's a small list of tricks you can pull with the bubbles. I've had dinner and drinks with pirate folks who have said "Haha, stupid CCP! I love those bugged bubbles!" while explaining thier exploits with glee...
Info: You never need large bubbles. The exploits work even better when using small ones. Try and figure that out if you like.
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higleiberrie
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Posted - 2005.10.04 01:30:00 -
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Wait so bubbles arent suppose to pull you in when you warp to them, because if thats true then they dont stop instas at all and thats what there ment to do right? If they changed em to not pull you into them after warping the small would be usless. I think what there like now should be how they stay.
I have camped using bubbles, camped with other people using bubbles ,have seen (never really killed by one tho) many people use bubbles and never have i seen any uber exploits the guy above me is talking about.
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tatana kira
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Posted - 2005.10.04 04:09:00 -
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I've just been informed by a gm that it is indeed a bug for the mobile warp disruptor to suck you in and they are not supposed to work that way, hes handing the issue over to the devs for fixing.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.10.04 04:26:00 -
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yay for inconsistency in GM policy?
first people get reimbursed for setting off smarties in empire (own stupidity)?
now bubbles sucking people in is a exploit/bug?
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.10.04 04:28:00 -
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enjoy it before everything in related to these gets nerfed
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ihate thisgame
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Posted - 2005.10.04 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: tatana kira
I've just been informed by a gm that it is indeed a bug for the mobile warp disruptor to suck you in and they are not supposed to work that way, hes handing the issue over to the devs for fixing.
who was the gm plz 
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.10.04 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Graelyn on 04/10/2005 08:48:19
Good.
I've never lost a ship to these things being used like this, but I'm sure many have.
"They're supposed to do that" Puhleese! 
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.10.04 08:46:00 -
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Did you warp to an insta bookmark that would of been inside the bubble?
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.10.04 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: tatana kira
I've just been informed by a gm that it is indeed a bug for the mobile warp disruptor to suck you in and they are not supposed to work that way, hes handing the issue over to the devs for fixing.
I'll beleive this when I see it.
Half of them dont know their arse from their elbow.
Theres one that told a player hes not getting sec increases from killing rats cos they are "below his level".
So now we have one GM saying cool and another saying bug.
Oh, make a spot 300 or 500km from the gate so you can scout it safely.
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ihate thisgame
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Posted - 2005.10.04 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Braaage
Did you warp to an insta bookmark that would of been inside the bubble?
no i warped 100km from the gate and the bubble was 20km on the other side of the gate, if i had warped to an insta ok , fine np, but i didnt.
thats my point
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.04 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 04/10/2005 09:09:12
Discussion of exploits is not allowed on the forums.
Hands up who has been banned from the forums for posting in this thread?
Anyone?
No?
Guess it's not an exploit then.
Kthx.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.10.04 09:27:00 -
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So basically, you use a bubble by plonking it _behind_ a gate?
That's ... somewhat counter intuitive.
What about if you don't want to use it at a gate, but somewhere else in the system? (e.g. a safe spot).
I think I may have to get hold of one and experiment...
(Incidentally, has anyone ever seen large bubbles on the market? Looking at them, with a nice big radius, you should be able to cover a gate so people arriving through it can't enter warp immediately).
(And surely, if someone's been banned they can't post to say that they have been...)
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ihate thisgame
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Guess it's not an exploit then.
To my knowledge it is only an exploit if the GMĘs admit there is a fault
Which atm they not 
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tatana kira
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:46:00 -
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A gm told me they shouldn't work that way but his logs cant prove thats what happend, so they are going to reproduce it and see for themselves.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: tatana kira
A gm told me they shouldn't work that way but his logs cant prove thats what happend, so they are going to reproduce it and see for themselves.
I don't believe you I'm afraid.
I have sat at gates with bubbles active and GM's watching.
They saw exactly how things work, and they didn't once even suggest it was an exploit.
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:53:00 -
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Ok lets just quit all the secracy : if you want it to not be considered an exploit it should be documented somewhere.
People that try to keep things secret are not liked by anybody except themselves.
Warp "bubbles" work with lines. The line from the incomming gate to the destination doesn't stop at the destination but moves through the entire grid so even if you put that warp bubble on the edge of a grid but inline with the incoming gate and destination it'll still pull you in sometimes 100km from the gate (they need to be placed very accurately tho)
Example :
G1 ----(many AU)---- G2 ---(bm location) ---- Bubble
When warping from 1 gate to another and you want to insta (insta bookmarks are inline with G1 to work) it works like this :
Because the bookmark, G1 and Bubble are inline and the bubble is within the same grid as the bookmark the bubble will suck you in.
quick usage :
"approach" the bookmark (which is 15-20km behind G2 and inline with G1) it is the perfect location for dropping bubbles. Once the ship stops "approach"'ing you'll be on the bookmark itself. Then just launch the bubble and activate it.
(This is only one way of doing things , many tricks are known but not by me)
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Druid R
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:55:00 -
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if you used a large bubble, it would catch ppl coming in from every direction, but they would appear on the edge of bubble (you never appear inside it) so if ur quick u can warp away (as long as direction isnt through bubble). with the large size of them you would need force spread about the gate to web/scramble ppl coming in. With a small bubble you can easily close down around 1 to 3 gates (depending on system) so ppl using instas get caught. We used one last night and waping to the gate at 15km didnt drop u in bubble, but then agai nat 15km u should ge tkilled neways.
One person did use an insta but selected 100km and was very surprised when he was 10km from gate, he didnt pay ransom so depearted the system quickly.
Bubbles are fine as they are.
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Posted - 2005.10.04 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: ihate thisgame on 04/10/2005 11:23:52
Originally by: tatana kira
A gm told me they shouldn't work that way but his logs cant prove thats what happend, so they are going to reproduce it and see for themselves.
who is this GM that told u there is a problem with the bubbles
and ppl keep saying if u warp to an insta in side the bubble it will suck u in, but i didnt warp to and insta in side the bubble i warpped 100km to the gate and the bubble which was a small one was 20km from the gate on the other side of it sucked me in and uncloaked me to
so how can this be explained
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tatana kira
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Posted - 2005.10.04 11:31:00 -
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This is part of the message i received
"As far as we
know, the warp disruptors should not work in this way, ie. dragging you into the
bubble"
"I will report this to the developers and notify them of this issue"
I wont post the whole message as im not allowed.
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ihate thisgame
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Posted - 2005.10.04 13:12:00 -
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I'm not saying ur not telling the truth but (and he's not going to beleave this) i have to agree with Avon, i,m find it hard to beleave.
that a GM has admitted there is a fault with bubbles,
the only way this is trully going to be resolved is for GM's to make an official statement or something, but if they do this they have to leave them as they r (which i have probs with), cos if they dont there will be one all mighty kick from the ppl that have lost ships and clones in this way.
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tatana kira
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Posted - 2005.10.04 13:34:00 -
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Believe what you want to believe, the gm told me this after i gave a long explanation about it via a petition, if you want to believe im just making this up, then so be it, it makes no diffrence to me.
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ihate thisgame
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Posted - 2005.10.04 13:44:00 -
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the only reason i think this is cos i got "thats how they work" on my response
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Nyrram
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Posted - 2005.10.04 15:29:00 -
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Put a POS at a moon in full agressive mode.. warp to that moon from any direction and drop a cargo canister, move 15km straight ahead from your canister.. deploy medium warp bubble... enjoy your loot from anyone dumb enough to warp to your moon... would prolly work, and spare the CPU usage of POS warp disruptors? :)
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ihate thisgame
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Posted - 2005.10.04 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: ihate thisgame on 04/10/2005 16:23:48
Originally by: Nyrram
Put a POS at a moon in full agressive mode.. warp to that moon from any direction and drop a cargo canister, move 15km straight ahead from your canister.. deploy medium warp bubble... enjoy your loot from anyone dumb enough to warp to your moon... would prolly work, and spare the CPU usage of POS warp disruptors? :)
God no
Make a BM to the POS Copy it about 20 times and drop tham at a gate, then collect ur loot 
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Garia666
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Posted - 2005.10.04 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: ihate thisgame
Edited by: ihate thisgame on 04/10/2005 16:23:48
Originally by: Nyrram
Put a POS at a moon in full agressive mode.. warp to that moon from any direction and drop a cargo canister, move 15km straight ahead from your canister.. deploy medium warp bubble... enjoy your loot from anyone dumb enough to warp to your moon... would prolly work, and spare the CPU usage of POS warp disruptors? :)
God no
Make a BM to the POS Copy it about 20 times and drop tham at a gate, then collect ur loot
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