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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:05:00 -
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I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is. The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Esharan
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
35
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:09:00 -
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Eve is a video game. Not real life. |

Garresh
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
164
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:09:00 -
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Yes. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
827
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:10:00 -
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I've always believed in Eve as a great learning experience, especially because you can push the envelope with risks and experiments that you couldn't IRL. In Eve, if everything really goes **** up, you can just buy a new char and start all over again.
That said, you should obviously take your experiences with a hefty serving of salt in terms of their relevance to RL, as it is far from a one to one translation.
Overall I encourage people to try things they would never try IRL, and I guarantee they will learn relevant things about themselves and others that have RL applicability that they may have never otherwise had the opportunity to experience.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
388
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:12:00 -
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In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:14:00 -
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Eve is a thinking persons game. Only those who have enough patience and perseverance to attain their goals tend to stay around. Many people play it differently and get different things from it. That variety is what makes it so fun! |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:20:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.
My very first alliance was IC. I left because there was such an expanse between the leadership and the new players. I met some people that I liked there, but I have to agree with you that their failure was one of stagnation and non communication from leadership.
The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
389
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:28:00 -
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The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction (remember people saying "IRC seem to be improving") . However the High command were at best absent and at worst a negative influence. Case in point I once had my whole fleet mute a member of high command for being non-constructive in a fleet. iirc much of the IRC command were in their 40's and 50's. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4869
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:35:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction Oops. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1606
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:40:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.
That's because RL > EVE and younger dudes got less RL to hamper with their EVE "career".
As The Oatmeal put it...
The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1585
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:41:00 -
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Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
902
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:48:00 -
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We once talked about age in corp chat and my corpmates thought I must be 50 because I'm always so bitter. I'm in my mid twenties  TEST alt - don't trust. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
66
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:59:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30? Sounds about right, according to the ESA that's the average age of all gamers. Though it's pretty hard to find international numbers easily (ESA numbers tend to be US based).
EDIT: for the record, I'm 39 this month. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2079
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:56:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote: For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
IMHO no - personal behaviour in Eve will mostly reflect someones personality regardless of age and unless someone played extensively during his teen years, I think its influence will be more detrimental than helpful because it lets people indulge into their characters and delusions of grandeur, whilst neglecting RL social skills.
I personally started eve exactly after graduating from University in 2004, because offline skill training seemed perfect because I would have far less time to practice after that.
Since that, I have to make more or less important decisions on a daily basis and I like taking over in RL, however, in Eve, I like to sit back and be a grunt just as a counterbalance to that.
Got pushed into director roles quite a few times early on, but not anymore - I play soleley to relax. You know... morons. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2079
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:59:00 -
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sorry - DP You know... morons. |

C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
116
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:01:00 -
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Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. I know about myself that I did not have when I first tried it many years ago. I'm thankful that the game is still around when I'm more grown up now and less crazy/wild/rebellious.
Edit: If I would have sticked to it too early I would live in a basement  |

Ryu Ibarazaki
Brave Newbies Inc.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:05:00 -
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If you want content though, gather up all your high school kids and make them diplomats. Things will start happening.  |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
473
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:34:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote: Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure?
When i started to play EVE i was a very different person. My english skills where more or less 0, and my confidence was not really high at all. A lot of self doubt and questioning.
To give you an idea.. In the start i had to rely on a danish player to help translate what people where saying, and i relied on google to help formulate what i wanted to say. EVE basically forced me to learn to speak and understand english, and all the odd sayings and slangs that many english speakers use on a regular basis. Im still learning and use the forums a lot to help expand my english even further, even tho my grammar still needs a lot of work and i have to look up the accurate spelling quite often.
For becoming more confident. Suddenly having people come and ask me questions and actually (pretending to at least ) listening to my answers and my opinions helped a lot. I went from not daring to talk in corp chat/ts/public channels/groups to be a recruiter and diplomat that can easily jump into random channels or conversations and dont feel as self conscious as i would have years ago.
Would my life as a whole have been different if i started to play when i was younger? I dont think so... I think i found EVE at the right time when i was..mature enough to be able to handle the challenges the game threw at me, and if i had been younger i would most likely have given up pretty fast.
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Stonkeep
Osmanli Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:55:00 -
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EvE is one of the few games that does not give advantage to younger players. Having better reflexes and such is not an advantage in Eve unlike many other games like FPS, RTS and some other MMOs. |

Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:03:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:sorry - DP
Giggity |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1628
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:35:00 -
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It all depends on how much you are willing to ignore your family I guess. |

Sapphire Aurora
Glass Cannons
6
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:47:00 -
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No, Eve is not strictly a young man's game, but it's not strictly a male's game, either, contrary to what you seem to assume in your post title and post.
Try not to keel over from the shock.  |

Lost True
Paradise project
2172
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:48:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is. Well, it's can be useful for teenagers, but it's not healhy for mature people. Because you're learning things when playing with others unconciously. How to act and think, not only in the game. And it's very decieving. When you see a teenager, or some fat looser in RW, they can say no matter what - it's won't affect you much, you won't listen closly to his advice, the lifestyle, or the way of thinking. Maybe i'm wrong - i don't have such people in my RW. It's fact that we're strongly affected by the people we surround ourselves with. But in eve you see and hear a mature, healthy, well dressed people, you know that 90% of them in RW are not, but it's still affects.
So for and average young man it's can be a good expirience in the long term. But for someone who a bit higher than average - i don't think so. in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much? [-á-¦-¦-Ç-â-é-+-+-¦] -£-¦-¦-+-+-+-¦ -¦-+-Ç-+-+-Ç-¦-å-+-Å Transtellar |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2833
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:53:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:
IMHO no - personal behaviour in Eve will mostly reflect someones personality regardless of age and unless someone played extensively during his teen years, I think its influence will be more detrimental than helpful because it lets people indulge into their characters and delusions of grandeur, whilst neglecting RL social skills.
The people at Fanfest prove this theory wrong... Except for Nulli Secunda. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
386
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:18:00 -
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Sapphire Aurora wrote:No, Eve is not strictly a young man's game, but it's not strictly a male's game, either, contrary to what you seem to assume in your post title and post. Try not to keel over from the shock. 
Some of the best FC's I have flown with are women. I'm not shocked that there are women in game. I enjoy their presence and consider them to be equal to men in all forms of Eve. In fact I will say that on average the women I have flown with in Eve are more competent then men.
I think that men and women may play for different reasons. Start your own thread if you want to ask the girls =-P
The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
870
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:34:00 -
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I think the most important thing EVE has taught me is that you really can't predict how people will act or react, mainly about trust. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4872
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:36:00 -
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C DeLeon wrote:Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. Wrong. |

Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
103
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:03:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old.
Oh jessus Corey I can't even remember 40.
At nearly twice the average player age, Eve is keeping me young.
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
114
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:23:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.
I dunno, man..... I just found out one of my former Battalion Sergeants Major has been playing since the beta, and he's still quite active. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
387
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:30:00 -
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Zen Dad wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old. Oh jessus Corey I can't even remember 40. At nearly twice the average player age, Eve is keeping me young. Hey Zen, I got a good chuckle from your post =-)
I dont know where the time goes for sure, but Im happy to have my virtual memories as part of the painting.
Good to hear from you! The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |
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