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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:05:00 -
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I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is. The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Esharan
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
35
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:09:00 -
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Eve is a video game. Not real life. |

Garresh
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
164
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:09:00 -
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Yes. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
827
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:10:00 -
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I've always believed in Eve as a great learning experience, especially because you can push the envelope with risks and experiments that you couldn't IRL. In Eve, if everything really goes **** up, you can just buy a new char and start all over again.
That said, you should obviously take your experiences with a hefty serving of salt in terms of their relevance to RL, as it is far from a one to one translation.
Overall I encourage people to try things they would never try IRL, and I guarantee they will learn relevant things about themselves and others that have RL applicability that they may have never otherwise had the opportunity to experience.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
388
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:12:00 -
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In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:14:00 -
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Eve is a thinking persons game. Only those who have enough patience and perseverance to attain their goals tend to stay around. Many people play it differently and get different things from it. That variety is what makes it so fun! |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
386
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:20:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.
My very first alliance was IC. I left because there was such an expanse between the leadership and the new players. I met some people that I liked there, but I have to agree with you that their failure was one of stagnation and non communication from leadership.
The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
389
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:28:00 -
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The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction (remember people saying "IRC seem to be improving") . However the High command were at best absent and at worst a negative influence. Case in point I once had my whole fleet mute a member of high command for being non-constructive in a fleet. iirc much of the IRC command were in their 40's and 50's. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4869
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:35:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction Oops. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1606
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:40:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.
That's because RL > EVE and younger dudes got less RL to hamper with their EVE "career".
As The Oatmeal put it...
The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1585
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:41:00 -
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Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
902
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:48:00 -
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We once talked about age in corp chat and my corpmates thought I must be 50 because I'm always so bitter. I'm in my mid twenties  TEST alt - don't trust. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
66
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:59:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30? Sounds about right, according to the ESA that's the average age of all gamers. Though it's pretty hard to find international numbers easily (ESA numbers tend to be US based).
EDIT: for the record, I'm 39 this month. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2079
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:56:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote: For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
IMHO no - personal behaviour in Eve will mostly reflect someones personality regardless of age and unless someone played extensively during his teen years, I think its influence will be more detrimental than helpful because it lets people indulge into their characters and delusions of grandeur, whilst neglecting RL social skills.
I personally started eve exactly after graduating from University in 2004, because offline skill training seemed perfect because I would have far less time to practice after that.
Since that, I have to make more or less important decisions on a daily basis and I like taking over in RL, however, in Eve, I like to sit back and be a grunt just as a counterbalance to that.
Got pushed into director roles quite a few times early on, but not anymore - I play soleley to relax. You know... morons. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2079
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:59:00 -
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sorry - DP You know... morons. |

C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
116
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:01:00 -
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Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. I know about myself that I did not have when I first tried it many years ago. I'm thankful that the game is still around when I'm more grown up now and less crazy/wild/rebellious.
Edit: If I would have sticked to it too early I would live in a basement  |

Ryu Ibarazaki
Brave Newbies Inc.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:05:00 -
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If you want content though, gather up all your high school kids and make them diplomats. Things will start happening.  |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
473
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:34:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote: Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure?
When i started to play EVE i was a very different person. My english skills where more or less 0, and my confidence was not really high at all. A lot of self doubt and questioning.
To give you an idea.. In the start i had to rely on a danish player to help translate what people where saying, and i relied on google to help formulate what i wanted to say. EVE basically forced me to learn to speak and understand english, and all the odd sayings and slangs that many english speakers use on a regular basis. Im still learning and use the forums a lot to help expand my english even further, even tho my grammar still needs a lot of work and i have to look up the accurate spelling quite often.
For becoming more confident. Suddenly having people come and ask me questions and actually (pretending to at least ) listening to my answers and my opinions helped a lot. I went from not daring to talk in corp chat/ts/public channels/groups to be a recruiter and diplomat that can easily jump into random channels or conversations and dont feel as self conscious as i would have years ago.
Would my life as a whole have been different if i started to play when i was younger? I dont think so... I think i found EVE at the right time when i was..mature enough to be able to handle the challenges the game threw at me, and if i had been younger i would most likely have given up pretty fast.
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Stonkeep
Osmanli Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:55:00 -
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EvE is one of the few games that does not give advantage to younger players. Having better reflexes and such is not an advantage in Eve unlike many other games like FPS, RTS and some other MMOs. |

Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:03:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:sorry - DP
Giggity |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1628
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:35:00 -
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It all depends on how much you are willing to ignore your family I guess. |

Sapphire Aurora
Glass Cannons
6
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:47:00 -
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No, Eve is not strictly a young man's game, but it's not strictly a male's game, either, contrary to what you seem to assume in your post title and post.
Try not to keel over from the shock.  |

Lost True
Paradise project
2172
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:48:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is. Well, it's can be useful for teenagers, but it's not healhy for mature people. Because you're learning things when playing with others unconciously. How to act and think, not only in the game. And it's very decieving. When you see a teenager, or some fat looser in RW, they can say no matter what - it's won't affect you much, you won't listen closly to his advice, the lifestyle, or the way of thinking. Maybe i'm wrong - i don't have such people in my RW. It's fact that we're strongly affected by the people we surround ourselves with. But in eve you see and hear a mature, healthy, well dressed people, you know that 90% of them in RW are not, but it's still affects.
So for and average young man it's can be a good expirience in the long term. But for someone who a bit higher than average - i don't think so. in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much? [-á-¦-¦-Ç-â-é-+-+-¦] -£-¦-¦-+-+-+-¦ -¦-+-Ç-+-+-Ç-¦-å-+-Å Transtellar |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2833
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:53:00 -
[24] - Quote
Large Collidable Object wrote:
IMHO no - personal behaviour in Eve will mostly reflect someones personality regardless of age and unless someone played extensively during his teen years, I think its influence will be more detrimental than helpful because it lets people indulge into their characters and delusions of grandeur, whilst neglecting RL social skills.
The people at Fanfest prove this theory wrong... Except for Nulli Secunda. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
386
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:18:00 -
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Sapphire Aurora wrote:No, Eve is not strictly a young man's game, but it's not strictly a male's game, either, contrary to what you seem to assume in your post title and post. Try not to keel over from the shock. 
Some of the best FC's I have flown with are women. I'm not shocked that there are women in game. I enjoy their presence and consider them to be equal to men in all forms of Eve. In fact I will say that on average the women I have flown with in Eve are more competent then men.
I think that men and women may play for different reasons. Start your own thread if you want to ask the girls =-P
The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
870
|
Posted - 2013.05.05 03:34:00 -
[26] - Quote
I think the most important thing EVE has taught me is that you really can't predict how people will act or react, mainly about trust. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4872
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:36:00 -
[27] - Quote
C DeLeon wrote:Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. Wrong. |

Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
103
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:03:00 -
[28] - Quote
Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old.
Oh jessus Corey I can't even remember 40.
At nearly twice the average player age, Eve is keeping me young.
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
114
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:23:00 -
[29] - Quote
Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.
I dunno, man..... I just found out one of my former Battalion Sergeants Major has been playing since the beta, and he's still quite active. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
387
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:30:00 -
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Zen Dad wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old. Oh jessus Corey I can't even remember 40. At nearly twice the average player age, Eve is keeping me young. Hey Zen, I got a good chuckle from your post =-)
I dont know where the time goes for sure, but Im happy to have my virtual memories as part of the painting.
Good to hear from you! The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
387
|
Posted - 2013.05.05 15:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:C DeLeon wrote:Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. Wrong. Yeah the needle on the ol' wrong o meter spiked hard when I read this, bouncing and chattering like I was measuring volts but set to Ohms.
The younger gamers I know are different in a way from my generation, I could stereotype them as..."macro aware" maybe =-P, but not impatient. The weight of strange. RL religeous warning, do not watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mv2MWv0k0 |

Umar Umarhabib
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:28:00 -
[32] - Quote
isn't SirMolle like 80 years old?
to the OP: SirMolle was the leader of one of the most successful alliances in Eve.
I also heard at one point, Razor Alliance was led by a granny
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Gensou Amatin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:52:00 -
[33] - Quote
I kind of agree that younger people may not have the patience for eve but im sure there are a lot of young people who do. Im 21 and when i first started playing a couple of weeks ago I was thinking I wouldnt have the patience to wait for skills to train so I could fly cooler ships, but after a few days I got used to it and now I really enjoy the nice steady progression that eve offers compared to many other games I played where you rapidly progress through the content then get bored because there is nothing to do. Eve is the epitome of "slow and steady wins the race" for me. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9103
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:57:00 -
[34] - Quote
I'm 41
I rub along OK in EVE.
1 Kings 12:11
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Kult Altol
THE BOARD OF EDUCATION
241
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:44:00 -
[35] - Quote
I'm 27 and eve has taught me patience, in game and RL An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Prophet Bathana
The Infernal Spade
4
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:57:00 -
[36] - Quote
Esharan wrote:Eve is a video game. Not real life.
No, Eve is real! |

Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:46:00 -
[37] - Quote
Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.
I'm 56 years old, so you're not that old to be playing Eve. 
My goals is escapism from real life for a few hours, and playing a slow paced game I can play at my own speed. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2467
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:53:00 -
[38] - Quote
I started EVE as a young and carefree forty-five year old.
It has turned me into a bitter fifty-three year old with thoughts of committing unsociable acts upon others (in game).
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Kult Altol
THE BOARD OF EDUCATION
242
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:15:00 -
[39] - Quote
If eve didn't exist I wonder what all the old farts be doing. World of Warcraft? An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
316
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:21:00 -
[40] - Quote
C DeLeon wrote:Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. Not quite. I was 17 when I started, and am 20 now. Several of my friends the same age play. So patience is working fine!  As to the OP - I personally feel EVE has helped me develop, particularly communication skills. Nothing makes a man talk and think on his fleet like leading a 40 man fleet for the first time... Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1382
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:22:00 -
[41] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Christopher AET wrote:The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction Oops.
Razor, why you accidentally the whole alliance?  Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1607
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:32:00 -
[42] - Quote
Quote:Is Eve a young mans game?
Not hardly.  We've got more (per capita) fist-shaking cane-brandishing you-kids-get-off-my-lawn old farts in here than any other game. 
EVE is an old man's game.  Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Lenda Shinhwa
New Order Logistics CODE.
3
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:43:00 -
[43] - Quote
Setaceous wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30? Sounds about right, according to the ESA that's the average age of all gamers. Though it's pretty hard to find international numbers easily (ESA numbers tend to be US based). EDIT: for the record, I'm 39 this month.
I'm 44. Eventually the average age of gamers will be about the same as the average age of the adult population. We won't be playing bingo in the retirement homes. We'll be fighting over the XBox 1024 remotes. |

Iso47
EveCoPilot.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:49:00 -
[44] - Quote
Only thing EvE taught me is how really **** the RW is. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
628
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:49:00 -
[45] - Quote
We have one of the most immature forum communities around. And in game chat there is a lot of spam and immaturity.
However, when you meet people in game and actually hang out with them and get on comms, you will find it to be one of the best communities you will ever find online. I have more friends in more countries from Eve then all other games combined. I have taken 3 breaks from the game in 4 years and have real life friends that I met here that lasted through that.
A lot of those friends are "college age kids", being on their server reminds me of playing guild wars 1. A lot of them are older than me, I am also turning 40 soon.
What theres not a lot of in Eve IMHO, is very young teens/kids. And of course women. But there are a few. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |

Lister
The Armed Syndicate Huzzah Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:13:00 -
[46] - Quote
Corey Fumimasa wrote:IFor the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.
When I started playing Eve over 10 years ago I was already 36 and successful in R/L - good business, stable family etc. During my time in gaming on which I have always spent too much time, I have met some super talented young people. They are brilliant organizers, astute in-game business people and masterful tacticians. With the exception of one (who has been spectacularly successful) I have seen many of those fail badly in R/L ending up in dead end jobs, or no jobs with broken marriages.
My honest advice (as a gaming addict) is give it up. Give up Eve, give up gaming, burn your consoles (or sell them on Ebay if you can do that without getting hooked) and concentrate on matters less virtual.
Gaming is Bad.
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Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
139
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
Kult Altol wrote:If eve didn't exist I wonder what all the old farts be doing. World of Warcraft?
They would still be married. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
13
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:40:00 -
[48] - Quote
if your hi up in a large alliance, u prolly almost have a dayjob playing eve... so where do they get the time?
My guess, is those people are indeed young and don't have a real life outside eve.
My gf would ffing kill me if i played that much!  |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1196
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:40:00 -
[49] - Quote
Zen Dad wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old. Oh jessus Corey I can't even remember 40. At nearly twice the average player age, Eve is keeping me young.
I hope you are older than me. 
58 This is not a signature. |

Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:41:00 -
[50] - Quote
Large Collidable Object wrote:sorry - DP Well, whatever floats your boat, dude...
 "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
109
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:53:00 -
[51] - Quote
Esharan wrote:Eve is a video game. Not real life.
I beg to differ, EVE players interact with each other just about daily and learn much from a bit of common sense to when to be cautious. It helps us learn social skills and in a way develop friends. All of these things can be done in RL as well, so I submit to you that EVE is real. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1614
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:02:00 -
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Octoven wrote: ... so I submit to you that EVE is Real(tm).
FTFY Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Dalmont Delantee
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
40 is young...it better be as I'm close to it!
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Maggie Evenstar
Tantrum Pussycats
37
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:31:00 -
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What really got me into Eve was losing my hearing a couple of years ago. Eve has been a great social outlet. It's still easier to communicate in here than IRL though I have to stick to small fleets with people I know due to voice comms being an issue.
Also on the social side, Eve requires good social skills and cooperation because, as in RL, nothing worthwhile can be accomplished solo (though granted, I'm better at this part in Eve than IRL these days). There is a lot of giving and earning trust. That can always backfire in instances but in the big picture, it is far more profitable to put yourself out there and make new contacts than it is to never trust anyone. Having said that, I never trust anyone with enough of my assets to ruin me if they turn out to be untrustworthy. Eve is a good lesson in trusting others without being an idiot about it, and that is one of life's most valuable lessons. This is probably one of the reasons I still resist the idea of marriage...lol.
Finally, being a girl (24 years old if you care to know) in a game that is 97% male is also eye opening. In answer to the Op's subject, I'm proof that Eve is NOT a young man's game! If they'd ever actually get walking in stations working, I know quite a few more women who will actually give Eve a shot. Until there is more connection to our avatars in this game, it will continue to be an exceedingly male dominated. |

Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
154
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:02:00 -
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The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.
I wonder how that fares for my EvE career... "Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |

Lord Amaterasu
Carebears online
28
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:22:00 -
[56] - Quote
Prophet Bathana wrote:Esharan wrote:Eve is a video game. Not real life. No, Eve is real!
Eve is a mental illness where our alter egos emerge. The Mittani...not the hero Eve deserves, but the one we need. -Prisoner 002929 |

Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing The Honda Accord
55
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:45:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:We have one of the most immature forum communities around.
I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I?
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I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1298
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:48:00 -
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Zen Dad wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old. Oh jessus Corey I can't even remember 40. At nearly twice the average player age, Eve is keeping me young.
47 here... I can certainly see how some would consider it (as a "game") to be a younger person's thing, but I like it because it tends to force me to think in new ways after days of pressing the pause button on secretary's printers when they're too lazy to look at the flashing error.  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Khergit Deserters
1015
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:09:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Christopher AET wrote:In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result. That's because RL > EVE and younger dudes got less RL to hamper with their EVE "career". As The Oatmeal put it... Ha ha, excellent link. So true. |

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
374
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:56:00 -
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I'm not sure age is really a defining demographic in EvE. I am 46 now, but I would have loved the game at 20 too. I think Eve appeals to certain personality types, regardless of stuff like age and sex. |

Jason Justice Justice
Intergalactic Hunters of ManBearPig
0
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:25:00 -
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17 here. Probably the youngest person to post yet. I would like to think I'm better off for playing this game, but who knows? We will see in ten years.  |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
67
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:07:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:If eve didn't exist I wonder what all the old farts be doing. World of Warcraft? Similar threads on WoWs GD reveal that the ages of players of that game do tend to be older anyway. Or that could simply be a forum thing. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
111
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Posted - 2013.05.07 05:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Octoven wrote: ... so I submit to you that EVE is Real(tm).
FTFY
Indeed lol thanks for that!  |

Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing The Honda Accord
56
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Posted - 2013.05.07 05:19:00 -
[64] - Quote
Jason Justice Justice wrote:17 here. ]
Get off my lawn ya durn whippersnapper!!
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I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |

Flux Raider
Secutor Corporation Per Flamma Exorior
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 05:55:00 -
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The best thing about eve to me is the depth it has. The worst thing is that it heavily rewards scammers and penalizes honest play. There are so many liars, cheaters, and thieves so you have to basically trust no one. I don't think it's only young players, though. |

Helgrind Wolf
WaKE Inc Company of Spacefarers
9
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Posted - 2013.05.07 06:03:00 -
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Eve is just a game but the people are still real, granted it being a game allows you to take on a personality that you might have never gotten to experience RL. I'm 25 myself but I have players that span from 19 years old to 50. They span form being a simple college student to ex marines to being a baker in spain. You get all sorts and that's half the fun. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1198
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:08:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ditra Vorthran wrote:The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.
I wonder how that fares for my EvE career...
I am the opposite.
The older I get, the more tolerant I become of people in general.
Unless it involves the Tory party, then I want to gank them all. This is not a signature. |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
958
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:24:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.
I wonder how that fares for my EvE career... I am the opposite. The older I get, the more tolerant I become of people in general. Unless it involves the Tory party, then I want to gank them all. 
I am similar although opposite as well,
The older I get the less tolerant I get of people especially if it involves the Labour Party then I want to gank them all. I've only just recovered after the last time they screwed the country up.....sorry got elected.
I'm 40 btw and I find most people on here are of the older ilk. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Giovanni erkelens2
sins of a solar empire
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:27:00 -
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Jason Justice Justice wrote:17 here. Probably the youngest person to post yet. I would like to think I'm better off for playing this game, but who knows? We will see in ten years.  u just got beated man. i am 16 :D |

thorgil
Salvag. INC FEDERATION SOLARIS
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:09:00 -
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I started eve 7 years ago, i was 13 .
Of course it gave me something that others teens didn't have. I could speak every day with grown up players , learning a lot about eve and IRL early.
It also gave me a good english level and some leadership skills, and it's something that helped me quite good.
On the other side, i've spend so much time on this game that i guess i missed a lot of things IRL. But that's how eve is : if you don't invest, you'll learn nothing. |

Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:31:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:...For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?... I didn't have a PC in the 1970's... 
Anyway, I don't think Eve would have had much of an effect on me as a teenager, too much real life stuff did. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness Clockwork Pineapple
1851
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
not the oldest in the thread, but older than the OP |

Salamia Taivaalla
Fistful of Finns Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 13:26:00 -
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I myself am 31. Started as a 26 year old youngster. I have been diagnosed with serious depression.
Eve to me has given stability to life. No matter what **** happends RL, I can always return to my homies ingame. Even stuff changes ingame, it's not too bad, since its a corporation I run, so I have often quite a big word to say about the changes. EvE also hase improved and helped keep the skill of english language. Even in Finland we are quite well educated, but beacause I am forced to use english on daily basis, it keeps improving on daily basis.
I have always asked people joining my merry band of finns of their age when joining. At the moment FISTN average age is 32. Why this makes an interesting data, is that I run a finnish only corporation and I would guess that I have around 1/3rd of the active finnish players in corp. Maybe like 25%. So the average age propably wouldn't change a lot, even if all the rest of finns would join in.
But in the end, I keep EvE as a game to patient, tolerant and thinking people, no matter of age nor sex. An almost unique feature in modern gaming eve gives is that it forces the player to use his/hers brain on a level very few games nowdays do. Ofcourse we do have the ones who dont think a bit aswell, but they tend to end up on horrible horrible killmails - loosing side.
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Masumi SinTe
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:02:00 -
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26 here, so i'm kinda young, but.....
Right now i have a girlfriend (Also a gamer) i've living with for the past 4 years (I'll marry soon TM). I have an stable job, i have a degree....and...you know what, i've been a gamer (And pretty hardcore) all my life.
The thing is to balance out the things you do in your life. If you use 8 hours per day to study, then go play Eve if you want! But don't play Eve for 14 hours and don't study at all. Same applies to job, first things first....BUT....
Don't think you are losing your life for playing a video game (Specially with this heavy social interaction). What are you missing ? Getting drunk with RL people ? How much different is the feeling of getting drunk in corp comms with some mining friends while you shoot at space rocks ?, shootting space rocks and talking to friends in corp while drinking a beer it's no different than being in a bar, drinking a beer with your friends while watching girls *sses (As long as the feeling you get it's the same, the fullfilment in the social interaction, it's ok)
You don't lose your life for playing a video game, you lose your life if you don't share it with anybody besides yourself. We live to share things with other important people, not to be alone. As long as you can remember that and keep your head clear, you won't be "Wasting" your life by playing a video game. |

Meryl SinGarda
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
792
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:54:00 -
[75] - Quote
Female here, so I'm going to have to disagree that this is a "young man's" game.
CEO of B.U.T.T.
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Lenda Shinhwa
New Order Logistics CODE.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:22:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.
I wonder how that fares for my EvE career... I am the opposite. The older I get, the more tolerant I become of people in general. Unless it involves the Tory party, then I want to gank them all. 
I find reality TV shows have made me far more tolerant and less willing to impose my views on others. Why? Because they have shown me that people live some crazy ass lives that can't even imagine are on the same planet as me, much less my country. So I definitely have no business telling them how to live those crazy ass lives.
Although I don't know what a Tory is. I'd still gank a big government politician, or any Democrat, any time... assuming they play Eve. |

Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
20
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:58:00 -
[77] - Quote
geriatric f**kfest mate... and i`m part of it... i can fail at any speed you like |

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
817
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:23:00 -
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My experience in eve has taught me me many skills, like ignoring my family, trolling (unsucessfully) people in the forums and in game, opening convos with conspiracy theorists in Amarr begging people to stay out because we support slavery, learning of all the strange diseases some people have on them and forces them to play eve and other mmos almost 24/7 , thinly veiled attempts at setting sexual RL encounters, overtly blatant attempts at pimping my partner in webcam for isks (you know who you are you pervert) , people selling me online medications, people asking me about how much I charged for virtual seances to speak with dead ones, Nigerian Scams , malicious links, pornstar knowledge as I see ships with strange names, people wanting to scam me and others in myriad ways, lame drones that die in 3 shots and they cost too much to replace, angry people shouting in comms that turned me off for ages and made me go mute on field ops back in the day, the loss of a beloved alliance and how I still can not get over it and being dirt poor once with all ships locked in a enemy station.
I mean really, why do I even need to go out to the streets? EVE > Real Life, and I think , being a bit more serious, young people here if starting, like all other online games, need a parent or tutor counseling telling them how to behave and what to expect, else we might get maladjusted beings that have issues coping with life.
Asocial and Sadistic entities currently dwelling within the EVE cluster were born broken anyway, so they have a nice spot here 
I also , like others, believe EVE is a kind of mindset game. That-¦s what has kept me hooked for so long (8 years and counting!), no other game has kept me here. I sometimes go away, but always return, nothing out there beats the feeling EVE can give.
So more than a "young man" game, it essentially embodies the "niche" game spot.
I have , and I am not making this up, invited over 50 people to the game, some of them having given "codes" , others the link for the trial, others the now extinct 5$ steam offers, for the past 8 years. NONE of them remain here , and only a handful did stay for more than the 2 week trial.
This game is not really for everyone, neither young men or old men.
There-¦s something "unique" , like the french say a "je ne sais quoi" quality that makes you attracted to such an impersonal game.
You can even see the backlash from the NEX store, the not so delicate attempt at trying to bring other types of people here, that actually shocked the core userbase and even CCP itself.
EVE-¦s sandbox and style is their biggest boon and greatest bane. Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |

Karle Tabot
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:50:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.
You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.
Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.
How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.
Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?
Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.
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Untanas Volmyr
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
9
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:05:00 -
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I am 31. And I've played many mmo's when I had the time. I have never had so many experiences and met so many people in a Such a short amount of time. Eve was actually my choice as the last mmo I will play before I quit gaming. And well. I don't want to quit now that I learned how to play it. Im somewhat determined now. Oops. |
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