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Terra Volta
Hysera Innovations
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Posted - 2011.10.19 01:50:00 -
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Out of curiosity, if a player were to make isk without the use of any exploits (botting), how much isk would you consider to be "very wealthy"? |
egola
NSFW federation
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:09:00 -
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over 9000, we're all rich at heart |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:12:00 -
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at least 500b |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.19 05:48:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:at least 500b
Aye at LEAST |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:06:00 -
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has been discussed often in the past, look up the old threads
imagine you have 80b ISK.
If you fly subcapital ships that's obscenely rich.
If you fly supercarriers that is enough to replace a few losses.
If you use all the money to buy & fit one titan you will feel pretty poor.
Then there is the question whether you define "rich" by wealth or income. |
Luxi Daphiti
Biotech Transtellar INC
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:12:00 -
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One Million Dollars!  |
Brollox
Zen Gaming
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Posted - 2011.10.19 09:12:00 -
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I depends on if you are talking Isk rich or Collateral rich.........
I have never been really isk rich until I sold my main My Old Main but I had always flown top fitted SC's and pimp ships and never really bothered about losing the odd one as I could always afford to replace them.
I generally only ever had 20/30b in liquid isk but ALWAYS had 5x+ that in assets.
I sold my main when CCP ruined the game with blob warfare and superlag and after playing since 2003 I thought I would try something different.........hence hanging around in MD. To be fair to the MD dwellers it is a far more brutal place than null sec, plus I like the higher level of intelligence in these forums although plenty of trolls but most of it is people in MD 'don't suffer fools gladly'.
in answer to the OP question all I can say is:
Its easy to make LOTS of ISK when you have LOTS of isk.
I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
THE D0MINION
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:44:00 -
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It's all relevant. For example, Entity, who is one of the wealthiest guys in eve, has around 4 trillion isk, but I doubt he keeps more than 200b of it liquid. And he owns stuff that's very hard to convert into ISK. Then we have another guy, who has 500b ISK in his/her wallet, but not much of solid ISK. Which one would you define to be richer? |
BornToDieAnotherDay
Tarazed Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.19 12:08:00 -
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Why do people always have to be so philosophical about the question? Just give a damn number.
Personally 100b+ is my mark, then again I'm small time compared to most people here. |
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
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Posted - 2011.10.19 12:21:00 -
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Given the amount of isk in circulation in the game, wouldn't 2-3tn + isk figure be more acceptable? |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:18:00 -
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New players consider anyone who has 1B ISK to be "very rich". For older players, it's somewhere in the 200-500B range. For the titans of industry and finance, something above 1T ISK.
(It probably took me a year or two to make my first billion. We didn't have PI or Incursions back then. With the big ISK faucet of Incursions and all of the liquid ISK sloshing around compared to '07, it's a lot easier for newer players to earn ISK. After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.) |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:26:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.)
And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P
Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less.
Edit: if only there was some kind of player-driven investment market where newer players could propose business plans and older rich players could lend them money with an interest rate...someone should look into setting something like this up. You could even do it right here on the MD forum.
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Brollox
Zen Gaming
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:36:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:Scrapyard Bob wrote:After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.) And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less.
Yep I have to agree..........once you pass the 100b mark , you generally become a little more laid back and look for ways to make isk without having to log on for 10 hours a day or play 0.1isk games in stations
Problem with that is you have to risk larger amounts of isk to make it worth while. I have been quite lucky so far and have invested in some good projects and some good people who (fingers crossed) have not caused any problem.......... this to me is easy money while helping out the up and coming players.
The future Elise's/Raw23/Flakeys........ if you know what I mean!!
I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
Mantra Achura
Community for Justice
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:02:00 -
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Passing the 1 trillion mark would be my magical barrier to richness. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:19:00 -
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Chevalleis wrote:It's all relevant. For example, Entity, who is one of the wealthiest guys in eve, has around 4 trillion isk, but I doubt he keeps more than 200b of it liquid. And he owns stuff that's very hard to convert into ISK. Then we have another guy, who has 500b ISK in his/her wallet, but not much of solid ISK. Which one would you define to be richer?
The one with the hottest chick? |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:26:00 -
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Brollox wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:Scrapyard Bob wrote:After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.) And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less. Yep I have to agree..........once you pass the 100b mark , you generally become a little more laid back and look for ways to make isk without having to log on for 10 hours a day or play 0.1isk games in stations
Speaking for myself form the 100B on you start loosing the urge/will to make more isk.Every few months i start a good isksink -usually comes down to pirating with 2 accs in WAY too expensive pvp ships and loosing them every other day- after that i find the will again to make isk.Last time i done this i lost approx 35% of my isk in a timeframe of 1 to 2 months.Sucking at pvp and trying to avoid blobbing really helps with this btw.
Rince and repeat to keep the game attractive |
Brollox
Zen Gaming
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:47:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Brollox wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:Scrapyard Bob wrote:After you make your first billion, it's a lot easier to jump up to 10B then to 100B.) And then after 100b it's a pain in the ass again :P Then again, I'm infinitely more lazy now than when I had much less. Yep I have to agree..........once you pass the 100b mark , you generally become a little more laid back and look for ways to make isk without having to log on for 10 hours a day or play 0.1isk games in stations Speaking for myself form the 100B on you start loosing the urge/will to make more isk.Every few months i start a good isksink -usually comes down to pirating with 2 accs in WAY too expensive pvp ships and loosing them every other day- after that i find the will again to make isk.Last time i done this i lost approx 35% of my isk in a timeframe of 1 to 2 months.Sucking at pvp and trying to avoid blue blobbing really helps with this btw.That and failing to see/not caring about the red blob coming in. Rince and repeat to keep the game attractive
Been over 12 months now since I pvp'd and then it was not fun, I have a pvp chara on another account but I have never pirated in all my years playing....  I have lost a fair bit of my total isk on learning the ropes and market speculation but after 12/18 months of doing this I can *if wanted* to make some decent isk without losing 5/10b in one go 
In my MD investment I have only been caught once with a scam, but I have to say it is a pretty decent way of making some half decent isk for little :effort:
I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
Samroski
Games Inc.
EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:53:00 -
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I used to think that 100b is rich, and about a trillion is "very rich" (OP's question).
Now that I am around the first landmark in assets, I am not too sure. I do feel rich, but liquid ISK hardly ever goes above 15b. This is more than enough for my usual needs, but as a noob I had plans of hiring mercs to so some dirty work when I made 100b, and 100b in assets is not enough for my plans.
Thus I think I'll be rich when I have 100b cash routinely in the wallet. And very rich with about a trillion cash routinely in the wallet. |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:22:00 -
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Rich - some 200 Billion
Very rich - over the 1T mark |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:39:00 -
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Being rich is a liability in this game. The more you risk losing.
That is if you actually undock and shoot people. |
Barrak
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:03:00 -
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lol.... I thought i was doing okay with 2bill in the bank.
Anyone fancying becoming a mentor ;) |
Dervinus
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:18:00 -
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and I thought I was doing OK with like 200 million |
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:01:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:
That is if you actually undock and shoot people.
That's crazy talk.
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Borkers
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:02:00 -
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I was going to say the same about hitting 4B last week. Now I'm just glad to know I'm not the least rich player in the universe. |
Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:01:00 -
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Over the course of the game it changes... I mean 6 years ago i had 20billion ISK and i was consider richer then most alliances. Today its still the same ratio richer then most alliances but the numbers have all gone up! Today i would say if you have 100+ billion you are richer the most PEOPLE... and you need over 1T to be richer then most alliances.
Over the past 2 years I have had much less time ingame and it really is to keep doubling your isk once you get over 1T... speciall since i have a 6b a month GTC bill... and whatever i loss in PvP (which isn't much). |
Tahna Rouspel
BWE Special Forces
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Posted - 2011.10.20 03:01:00 -
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The answer is obviously 1%.
You have to be in the top 1% of the richest people in EVE. I doubt I'm among that 1% with my measly 2 bil liquid isk, but then again, there's a lot of people in EVE! 1% of 300,000 is still 3000! Who are the richest 3000 people in EVE? |
Machete Visor
Shafts Pier Investment Trust Bond
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Posted - 2011.10.20 04:50:00 -
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one uber pvp char = 25-30b
any combination of reasonable subcap ships to fill your hangar = 2-3b
capital ships = 1b-3b
super carriers = 15b
so if you don't intend to fly a titan but want to fly evetything else and don't care to pimp everything.... 36b for subcaps... 50b if you want a nyx.
add in subscriptions for a year.... 4b.
flying a supercarrier / titan is a little overrated. so could easily make do with a great subcap / carrier pilot with 30b-40b for a year or so.
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Nex apparatu5
Not a Shell Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.20 16:47:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:at least 500b Aye at LEAST
Not empty quoting.
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.10.20 18:38:00 -
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<100 million ISK: Lower class (Can really only afford to regularly fly T1 ships)
100 million - 1 billion ISK: Upper lower class (Can afford to regularly fly T2 ships)
1 billion - 100 billion ISK: Middle class (Can afford to regularly fly capitals)
100 billion - 1 trillion ISK: Upper class (Can afford to regularly fly super caps)
1+ trillion ISK: The "elite" (You actually have to work hard at losing this much ISK legitimately) |
Kostolany
TunDraGon
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 19:09:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:<100 million ISK: Lower class (Can really only afford to regularly fly T1 ships)
100 million - 1 billion ISK: Upper lower class (Can afford to regularly fly T2 ships)
1 billion - 100 billion ISK: Middle class (Can afford to regularly fly capitals)
100 billion - 1 trillion ISK: Upper class (Can afford to regularly fly super caps)
1+ trillion ISK: The "elite" (You actually have to work hard at losing this much ISK legitimately)
Lovely, that's a good order of precedence for the rich peaople in eve. I like this. I am in the middle class atm and next goal is to reach the upper class.
http://kostolanyeve.blogspot.com/ |
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