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I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:40:00 -
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As a sister post to my Missioners: What is your goal? , miners, why do you do what you do? The people who actually sit and mine, not botters. I dabbled with mining myself but it was usually a spur of the moment thing for a period of 3-4 hours early morning due to lack of sleep.
What makes mining interesting enough to you that you do it days and weeks on end? Large scale miners who operate multiple accounts feel free to chime in as well. Even operating 6 hulks and an orca, you are still doing the same tedious task of scan rocks, target rocks, shoot rocks, just more of it to the point where this once low attention task requires more attention due to the volume of work that needs to be done. Is this something you enjoy doing concurrently while watching a movie, or reading a book? If so, why not just enjoy the movie or book and drop EVE from the equation? Saves you 15 bucks a month. What is the draw in doing this menial task even if it is at the same time as something more interesting?
Again, as stated in the Missioners post, this is not a flame / troll / bait of miners. Even though my viewpoint is that it is a waste of time, this is not someone else's viewpoint, this is not someone else's opinion. I am curious as to why this entertains you, the miner.
Industrialists who mine their own minerals "because it's free" need not reply. Incompetence is not a viewpoint. |
pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
118
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:55:00 -
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for me , well i have 4 accounts 2 of them industrialist 1hybrid combat /indy and this one
Mining is not the end it is what i do with the minerals , mining itself can be boring when solo even with multiple accounts
It is what i do with them that does it for me
, each month i set my self several goals and projects , last few month it has been either a good battleship bpc i bought or a full bpc pack for a freighter , just as a example
that is why i mine sure i could buy the minerals and get it over yet quickly for a quick profit but there is no satisfaction in that
So much more pride and satisfaction when you fly your latest product to a trade hub and when it gets sold
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
iblade darkstar
Tera Incognita
Rolling Thunder.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:55:00 -
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when you are mission running your doing the same task over and over again, when you mine you do the same thing over and over again, even alot of PVP is the same thing over and over. why do people do them, i would say for various reasons.
i'm a miner in this game, in others i've been a builder. as to why i love to mine in this game thats easy. it's all about the people i hang out with, when i mine i'm usualy having a laugh and joke with people in my corp and so you forget the time and just MINE. also the isk helps  |
Velicitia
Open Designs
15
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Posted - 2011.10.19 12:57:00 -
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I do it to get "free minerals". No, not in the sense that many people think of "Minerals I mine are free" (they're not), but in the sense that since I'm doing a lot of paperwork for the corp, checking the markets, etc. I can do something rather than stare at the door (though with the return of ship spinning ...). At the end of a few hours of doing that, rather than just a new spreadsheet, I've got a new spreadsheet and a few million ISK worth of minerals I don't have to buy off the market.
In addition to this, it provides a good source of stress relief and something to do with the corpies that isn't necessarily "dangerous" all the time (as would a low or w-space roam). It's helped get a good number of the guys who've moved on to combat roles a good way to get to know their corpmates (even if they don't mine themselves) before heading out with them in the midst of a war or a lowsec roam or something. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
Majesty Theological Institute
7
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:01:00 -
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I'm a lolRper, so I mine sometimes when I would otherwise just be sitting in station doing nothing (other than spinning my ships again! \o/).
Some ISK per hour is better than no ISK per hour. |
General Trajan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:10:00 -
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if nobody or no bot ever mined in this game, then were would ships come from?
in fact you should do a protest to never fly another ship that was made by either a miner, missioner or a botter. that will show those carebears! |
Velicitia
Open Designs
15
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:17:00 -
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General Trajan wrote:if nobody or no bot ever mined in this game, then were would ships come from?
in fact you should do a protest to never fly another ship that was made by either a miner, missioner or a botter. that will show those carebears!
so, you're gonna be flying a noobship then? |
General Trajan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:19:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:General Trajan wrote:if nobody or no bot ever mined in this game, then were would ships come from?
in fact you should do a protest to never fly another ship that was made by either a miner, missioner or a botter. that will show those carebears! so, you're gonna be flying a noobship then?
oh no not me. for some strange reason i actually respect those who pay to play this game the way they see fit. hell it's your money so you damn well better be having fun the way you want. no matter what it is  |
Luxi Daphiti
Biotech Transtellar INC
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
5
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:55:00 -
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I think I do it for a similar reason to most miners: it gives us time to do other things. I couldn't read a book, or study, or watch a film well if I'm PvP or PvEing due to the level of player interaction that's involved. Whereas mining (at least in high sec) can be done mostly AFK. Although typicalloy when I move into Low-Sec or Wormhole space it changed, and I can't be so lax. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:07:00 -
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Ice mining I do during the day for when I don't want to be glued to the screen non-stop, but I still want to keep an eye on chat channels and handle any corp issues that arise.
Rock mining I usually do as a group effort. It gets a bunch of us together and we have time to chat, goof around, answer questions, teach the newer players the ins and outs of Industry related stuff. It's a lot more social then mission running because there's more time to focus on chatter. Mission fleets tend to be much more goal-oriented.
I do a bit of solo rock mining as well for times when I want to watch TV or a movie, which doesn't mesh well with running L4 missions and having to pay attention to triggers. With a few alts in hulks and an orca, it makes me about 25-30M/hr which is comparable to running L4s. |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:36:00 -
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Lots of replies in this thread attempting to defend mining, not very many explaining why such activities entertain you.
At least the missioners in the other thread are capable of reading, yeesh. So jaded. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:37:00 -
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Simple, I enjoy it.
No idea why. Should be boring as hell. But it's fun. It's especially fun in grav sites, when you can kill off some truly massive rocks. When I lived in null, our static grav site had an enormous spodumain rock. I worked on it for days. Good times.
Mining with a group is even better. When you get a bunch of hulks, an orca and several haulers, and you can just spend hours cleaning out entire systems. It doesn't even matter what ore is selling best, you just strip everything in range, and move on. |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:38:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:Simple, I enjoy it.
No idea why. Should be boring as hell. But it's fun. It's especially fun in grav sites, when you can kill off some truly massive rocks. When I lived in null, our static grav site had an enormous spodumain rock. I worked on it for days. Good times.
Now this is an answer I'm looking for, thanks for your viewpoint.
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I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:39:00 -
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General Trajan wrote:if nobody or no bot ever mined in this game, then were would ships come from?
in fact you should do a protest to never fly another ship that was made by either a miner, missioner or a botter. that will show those carebears!
2/10 for effort. |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:40:00 -
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Personally I don't find it to be an amazingly fun activity but it works rather well with my other activities. With mining I don't have to be actively engaged with the game every second. Plus I can just target some roids, start the lasers and then just chat with people in the E-Uni channel or others that I know. Furthermore I'm an industrial player so mining is one of those necessary activities. |
Ryan Startalker Zhang
Zervas Aeronautics
Something Posing As Meat
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:19:00 -
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As a miner who is just getting the hang of it, I must say that most full-time miners that I know and give me advices would not not bother to enter this forum, let along anwsering this thread; and I think that in itself could answer your question.
And IMHO, it's just that after a whole day of work, just sitting there chatting with the good old lads while stripping away belts of rocks is more relaxation than anything; not intense release of long-held pressure, but just relax, read, do your own stuff, and chat when you have something on your mind. That's it. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:52:00 -
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IMO the main attraction to mining is that it's an easy thing you can do while doing other things in life, like watching TV or doing schoolwork or such, that still makes you some passive income.
I got my start early on in the game mining, first solo and then with the corp, and it's a really good way to just hang out with people and relax when you're doing a group op, and it's a good way to make some ISK while doing other things if you're solo.
Now a days I don't mine much any more, other than going out and grabbing a cycle of two so I can build something (it's easier than going all the way to the trade hub for 2k trit, lol). When there are group ops I bring my Orca along and boost/haul for people, that way I can hang out with corp-mates and help out.
TL;DR I think the two main reasons people mine are because it's easy ISK without having to concentrate on it, and to hang out with other people who are also mining. |
Vaughn Blackleg
The Circus Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:57:00 -
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I consider myself a hardcore miner/industrialist. I have now 6 active accounts all with main characters as miners plus rorqual/orca pilot with max skills and implants. Why do it you ask? I started minning when 100 mill an hour was easy and i have stuck with it. The hum of the lasers, talking to good friends, building what i use. Its a frame of mind that i find relaxing. Wondering where i would stand on total tonnage mined? |
servalaan
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Posted - 2011.10.19 16:13:00 -
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I Accidentally YourShip wrote:As a sister post to my Missioners: What is your goal? , miners, why do you do what you do? The people who actually sit and mine, not botters. I dabbled with mining........ blah blah blah blah!!
What is your motivation In posting in a forum like this and trolling some of the responses.
What makes you want to do this? Is insecurity in yourself and a need to feel superior to others by means of putting them down??
Even though my viewpoint is that you are waste of skin, I am curious as to why this entertains you, the troll poster.
No point in answering because obvious bait post is obvious
If pinocchio told you his nose was about to grow, what would happen? |
General Trajan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.19 16:29:00 -
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I Accidentally YourShip wrote:General Trajan wrote:if nobody or no bot ever mined in this game, then were would ships come from?
in fact you should do a protest to never fly another ship that was made by either a miner, missioner or a botter. that will show those carebears! 2/10 for effort.
0/10 for this ******** thread you started |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.19 16:29:00 -
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I mine because it does allow me to do house work between cycles. I can read or fold laundry... in fact, I've gotten good at vacuuming the house a cycle at a time. The money I earn helps pay for my accounts. The minerals go to corp construction or are just sold off for isk.
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Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
3
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Posted - 2011.10.19 17:13:00 -
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I mine to keep my towers in isotopes, depending on what mood I'm in, it's steady isk, but it requires plenty of chars to do it. Normally I'll have 7 macks, an orca, and a iteron V to haul, I could probably make better isk running L4's and buy the topes, but meh, once an industrialist, always an industrialist |
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2011.10.19 17:50:00 -
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I have OCD and it is enjoyable watching those asteroids diminish bit by bit until they are all packed away neatly in my ship.
Also it is a bit thrilling knowing that every time I see someone new appear in local it might be some fat neckbeard coming to suicide gank me. |
Satav
Latinum Exports
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:08:00 -
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I Accidentally YourShip wrote:As a sister post to my Missioners: What is your goal? , miners, why do you do what you do? The people who actually sit and mine, not botters. I dabbled with mining myself but it was usually a spur of the moment thing for a period of 3-4 hours early morning due to lack of sleep. What makes mining interesting enough to you that you do it days and weeks on end? Large scale miners who operate multiple accounts feel free to chime in as well. Even operating 6 hulks and an orca, you are still doing the same tedious task of scan rocks, target rocks, shoot rocks, just more of it to the point where this once low attention task requires more attention due to the volume of work that needs to be done. Is this something you enjoy doing concurrently while watching a movie, or reading a book? If so, why not just enjoy the movie or book and drop EVE from the equation? Saves you 15 bucks a month. What is the draw in doing this menial task even if it is at the same time as something more interesting? Again, as stated in the Missioners post, this is not a flame / troll / bait of miners. Even though my viewpoint is that it is a waste of time, this is not someone else's viewpoint, this is not someone else's opinion. I am curious as to why this entertains you, the miner. Industrialists who mine their own minerals "because it's free" need not reply. Incompetence is not a viewpoint.
I guess the overall feeling of being productive is my motivation.
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Dasola
Rookies Empire
Rookie Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:42:00 -
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I mine to relax. Its nice slowpace activity in eve, compared to for example 0.0 roams or running missions.
Got 2 hulk pilots + orca booster, yes i do take them even to icemine time to time...
Also sometimes manufacture things, but my mining dosent cover minerals needed even close.
[Insert something funny or smart here] |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:26:00 -
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servalaan wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:As a sister post to my Missioners: What is your goal? , miners, why do you do what you do? The people who actually sit and mine, not botters. I dabbled with mining........ blah blah blah blah!! What is your motivation In posting in a forum like this and trolling some of the responses. What makes you want to do this? Is insecurity in yourself and a need to feel superior to others by means of putting them down?? Even though my viewpoint is that you are waste of skin, I am curious as to why this entertains you, the troll poster. No point in answering because obvious bait post is obvious
My motivation, you small-minded fool, is to spur conversation into something that I was curious about as I was bored. A forum is a vehicle for conversation about a topic, this is about mining in a section where mining is relevant. I am asking the mining community why they do what they do. To me it is a menial and boring task, but to others it may not be, and I'd like to see their logic. So far I've gotten two decent answers and the rest are just some jaded people who seem to have a hard on hate for conversation. |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:28:00 -
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Satav wrote:
I guess the overall feeling of being productive is my motivation.
Something to do to fill in your free time?
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I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:30:00 -
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Vaughn Blackleg wrote:I consider myself a hardcore miner/industrialist. I have now 6 active accounts all with main characters as miners plus rorqual/orca pilot with max skills and implants. Why do it you ask? I started minning when 100 mill an hour was easy and i have stuck with it. The hum of the lasers, talking to good friends, building what i use. Its a frame of mind that i find relaxing. Wondering where i would stand on total tonnage mined?
A vehicle of social interaction and mindless entertainment to relax? Seems fair, no different than shooting NPCs or farming item X in another MMO. |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:31:00 -
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Emma Royd wrote:I mine to keep my towers in isotopes, depending on what mood I'm in, it's steady isk, but it requires plenty of chars to do it. Normally I'll have 7 macks, an orca, and a iteron V to haul, I could probably make better isk running L4's and buy the topes, but meh, once an industrialist, always an industrialist
Why do you make the ISK? Just for the sake of making the ISK? Become wealthy in a virtual world, just enjoy having ISK? |
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
3
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:05:00 -
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I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Emma Royd wrote:I mine to keep my towers in isotopes, depending on what mood I'm in, it's steady isk, but it requires plenty of chars to do it. Normally I'll have 7 macks, an orca, and a iteron V to haul, I could probably make better isk running L4's and buy the topes, but meh, once an industrialist, always an industrialist Why do you make the ISK? Just for the sake of making the ISK? Become wealthy in a virtual world, just enjoy having ISK? EDIT: Reading this post again makes it seem a little judgmental. It is not intentionally so.
Don't worry, I didn't feel judged 
I only have enough isk to cover a rainy day, although I'm starting to do a bit to make some more isk so I can expand my collection of blueprints, but that's away off. I've got some isk tied up in assets like a rorqual parked up in the off chance I feel like joining an 0.0 industry corp, but apart from that, I'm never wealthy.
I'm too lazy to sit and ***** missions unless I need the standing, as long as I've got enough for the occasional splurge I'm happy |
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