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Dracoth Simertet
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:53:00 -
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Great idea, hope this makes it over to TQ
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Drac |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:54:00 -
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Not sure i really like this or not, but im sure CCP will make a fukton of cash off it. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1009
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:54:00 -
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Legion40k wrote:Tippia wrote:Legion40k wrote:Think of the new ISK sink What new ISK sink? me finally sinking ISKies into plex :P
This is not an ISK sink ( except possibly if confiscated PLEX are used during a shortage PLEX crises that Dr E talked about last year)
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1009
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:59:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Dez Affinity wrote:Anyone posting against this is an idiot.
"Grrr CCP! STOP GIVING ME OPTIONS!!!!"
Like the option Greed is good?
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Empyre
Chaotic Balance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:02:00 -
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Whoever came up with that idea should be getting a huge bonus this year. That is one of the most brilliant business moves I've ever seen from CCP. Character transfers just felt like a waste of money but this actually feels like you're paying for something tangible. |
Altaen
Calamitous-Intent
54
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:12:00 -
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Noddy Comet wrote:inb4 people cry "but, it's not fair.. I have THREE character slots..."
Pah, half a month to train one cloaky cyno alt, half a month to train another cloaky cyno alt. I see no problems here. |
Zaxix
Long Jump.
85
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this??
its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever. Say I want a Cyno alt/indy alt, or other fixed-SP-limit character on my main account. This would let me train it up without stopping training my main and avoid the transfer fee.
I can see some benefits for people wanting to make the best of a situation on a particular account. Particularly old accounts with a high SP main. Overall though, this seems more beneficial for CCP than players.
I think this is a benefit for people who are not familiar with long term account planning. I always planned out extra accounts so that they became self-sustaining. That is, setup whatever it is you need first (as a Black Frog pilot, that was often cynos), then setup a character who can make isk while not logged in (PI, research/builder, trader, hauler), then setup a character to train for sale. For me, those characters for sale were often freighter pilots, who I also put to work in RF/BF doing AFK hauling. That enabled me to generate a steady stream of ISK, get a big cash payout when the sale was complete, pluls have my task character I needed in the first place. If you spin up 7 or 8 of those accounts and combine their efforts into production/trade, you can big ISK and the monthly PLEX is a small expense in comparison.
Keep in mind, that a PLEX is for 30 days, so if the training you're planning takes less than 30 days, you need to have a plan for the excess. I don't know how all the new changes will work out with training times, but I used to be able to get a freighter pilot into his first freighter in an average of 20 days or so. So for 1 PLEX plus 21 day trial (buddy account), I got 51 days, which got me a cyno pilot, a freighter pilot with 30 days of contract work, and a head start on a third sale character. (In the old buddy account system, I also got the PLEX back. Those were the days, sigh) I guess we'll see how it works out in practice.
***Frog Forever***
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Maximus Andendare
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
147
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:15:00 -
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Yes! Please add this to ship with Odyssey! It's a great tool for people that just have a short train needed!! |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
335
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:20:00 -
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I see this perk and approve...
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
9259
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:23:00 -
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Empyre wrote:Whoever came up with that idea should be getting a huge bonus this year. That is one of the most brilliant business moves I've ever seen from CCP. Character transfers just felt like a waste of money but this actually feels like you're paying for something tangible.
Well it's something players have been asking for since about half an hour after PLEX were introduced.
But you know CCP - they love the SoonGäó
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1785
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:25:00 -
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Maximus Andendare wrote:Yes! Please add this to ship with Odyssey! It's a great tool for people that just have a short train needed!!
Amen. it is utterly frustrating to have to put off a goal with a main toon becuase you need another cyno toon lol.
Just recently I decided to take a trip to the dark side and train up a mining toon (I feel dirty just typing the word "mining"!, but the venture looks sweet lol), so i have had to put back training up another low sec pvp/pve toon to do it. I already have 5 accounts and don't want to add another.
With this option, CCP makes a little extra scratch as I buy a GTC to turn into plex and I get to accomplish ingame goals more reasonably. win win.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1009
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:29:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:Not sure i really like this or not, but im sure CCP will make a fukton of cash off it.
Just as long as CCP reinvests some this money back into EVE instead of the Dust moneypit
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1019
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:30:00 -
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i am daniel plain and i approve this change.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Caljiav Ocanon
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:40:00 -
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I have hated the fact that CCP feels compelled to not let people have two (or more) useful characters per account and force people to use and pay for multiple accounts. Although this is nice, it's still a sham.
Though I fly through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am aligned to a safespot and warping out. - Me 2013 |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
516
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:43:00 -
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This is a GREAT change.
"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Tom Gerard
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
1028
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:43:00 -
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Excellent Idea!
One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
Urine Alliance
155
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:45:00 -
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am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?
So you pay the same price to train an alt on the same account as your main. meaning you can only use it as when your main is NOT logged on, as you would to just have another account that lets you use both accounts at the same time.
I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money. Honestly.. what useful thing can you gain in a month? two months, or even three? Even a covert scout doesn't happen inside 3 months...
Nice work CCP, now we see why you love Jita scammers. |
JEFFRAIDER
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
137
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:55:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?
So you pay the same price to train an alt on the same account as your main. meaning you can only use it as when your main is NOT logged on, as you would to just have another account that lets you use both accounts at the same time.
I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money. Honestly.. what useful thing can you gain in a month? two months, or even three? Even a covert scout doesn't happen inside 3 months...
Nice work CCP, now we see why you love Jita scammers.
ahahahaha covert scouts totally take 3 months you big mouthbreathing dummy |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
134
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:56:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:DelightSucker wrote:this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account
whats good about this??
its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever. Say I want a Cyno alt/indy alt, or other fixed-SP-limit character on my main account. This would let me train it up without stopping training my main and avoid the transfer fee.
Hmm I was going to argue with you and then I realized that makes sense. Damn.
SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars
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Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
157
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:59:00 -
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Probably the second best thing CCP has done in the last few years after the black ops buff.
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx CEO
Watch PIZZA Videos http://www.youtube.com/user/LunchSquad |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4145
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:12:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:EvEa Deva wrote:Not sure i really like this or not, but im sure CCP will make a fukton of cash off it. Just as long as CCP reinvests some this money back into EVE instead of the Dust moneypit
They can spend their money on whatever they like Darth, they really don't need our permission. 
Much as people that do not wish to use this option need not spend a dime on it.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
LethalGeek
Red Ochre Mining and Exploration
Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:12:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?
So you pay the same price to train an alt on the same account as your main. meaning you can only use it as when your main is NOT logged on, as you would to just have another account that lets you use both accounts at the same time.
I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money. Honestly.. what useful thing can you gain in a month? two months, or even three? Even a covert scout doesn't happen inside 3 months...
Nice work CCP, now we see why you love Jita scammers. This is a bad post. |
Meryl SinGarda
Phoibe Enterprises
Project Wildfire
828
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:14:00 -
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How is this useful? If I wanted to pay for another character I'd setup a 2nd account.
CEO of B.U.T.T.
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Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
219
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:15:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?
So you pay the same price to train an alt on the same account as your main. meaning you can only use it as when your main is NOT logged on, as you would to just have another account that lets you use both accounts at the same time.
I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money. Honestly.. what useful thing can you gain in a month? two months, or even three? Even a covert scout doesn't happen inside 3 months...
Nice work CCP, now we see why you love Jita scammers.
lay off the cough syrup buddy |
Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
220
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:16:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:How is this useful? If I wanted to pay for another character I'd setup a 2nd account.
Not useful to me != not useful to anyone.
Don't like it don't use it. |
Scaara Koraka
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:17:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:i'm not entirely sure i see the value (if any) in this feature?
Wont be useful for multiboxing but you could say have a hauler, market alt and an industry alt all training stuff on one account Instead of having them spread across 3 accounts. |
Haulie Berry
641
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:22:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?
Yes.
Quote:I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money.
...what?
Are you high?
Say I need an alt with a 1 year training plan. I don't need it logged in at the same time with my main, and want it on the same account, because I don't want to plex a second account indefinitely.
Right now I would have to open a second account, plex it for 12 months, and then pay (2?) additional plex to transfer it to my main account, for a total cost of 14 plex.
With this, I could buy 12 plex, train my alt side-by-side with my main for 12 months for a total cost of 12 plex.
How the **** is it MUCH cheaper to use a different account? |
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
Hegemonous Pandorum
165
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:27:00 -
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I can now start training titan holding alts to sell off. Great day! |
LethalGeek
Red Ochre Mining and Exploration
Fatal Ascension
28
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:27:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:How the **** is it MUCH cheaper to use a different account?
Some people are doing What Ifs about The Power of 2 or friend invites and etc etc because they just have to argue about everything for sake of being contrary.
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Zaxix
Long Jump.
85
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:34:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Say I need an alt with a 1 year training plan. I don't need it logged in at the same time with my main, and want it on the same account, because I don't want to plex a second account indefinitely.
Right now I would have to open a second account, plex it for 12 months, and then pay (2?) additional plex to transfer it to my main account, for a total cost of 14 plex.
With this, I could buy 12 plex, train my alt side-by-side with my main for 12 months for a total cost of 12 plex.
How the **** is it MUCH cheaper to use a different account?
Or you could, you know, take the first week of that 12 months to train PI alts on that second account, and at the end of 12 months you'll have covered a significant portion of the cost of the 12 months. At the very least, you could have two low skill PI characters inside of 48 to 72 hours. If you added PI skills to the third alt you're looking to train, you'll do even better.
There's nothing bad about this new option, but there's nothing amazing about it.
***Frog Forever***
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