One an hour, every hour, every day, until CCP fixes the lamest game mechanic in the history of MMOs.

It is rock, paper, scissors, NUKE BOMB.

100 people sit in station or safed up at a POS, all lamenting that there is not a SINGLE F'N thing that can be done about ONE freakin' cloaky camper with a cyno, able to drop an infinite number of ships, with no warning....

A good game should provide a defense for every offense and an offense to every defense. There is no defense to the cloaky camper.

Yeah, it is SPAM... We industrialists should launch a coordinated campaign of SPAM until CCP wakes up and gives us SOME mechanism to counter the cloaky camper.

There is no defense to the cloaky camper.

Defense fleet standing at the ready. If your alliance doesnt' have enough people use some of that moon goo isk (every alliance that goes to null is given a free tech moon, don't you know..) and hire mercs to defned you.

OR (and this is the real one lol):

Fit Cloaks and MWDs or ABs to yous ships and...gasp...go somewhere else. this is called the DIFFUSION DEFENSE.

One an hour, every hour, every day, until CCP fixes the lamest game mechanic in the history of MMOs.

It is rock, paper, scissors, NUKE BOMB.

100 people sit in station or safed up at a POS, all lamenting that there is not a SINGLE F'N thing that can be done about ONE freakin' cloaky camper with a cyno, able to drop an infinite number of ships, with no warning....

A good game should provide a defense for every offense and an offense to every defense. There is no defense to the cloaky camper.

With the new patch just round the corner and mining/indy being a big part of it should ccp do something to cloaky ships to stop afk cloakys destroying the game?


defo something should be done.


yes +1

With the new patch just round the corner and mining/indy being a big part of it should ccp do something to cloaky ships to stop afk cloakys destroying the game?


defo something should be done.


yes +1

That is power projection problem, not a cloaky camper problem. Even if you removed cloaks completely they could still be doing it with ships with low enough sig and high enough ECCM as long as they can fit cyno on it.

I'm not in an alliance, because every time I've moved to null, a cloaky camper shows up and shuts everything down.

Why? Because 1000 PvPers have nothing better to do but sit around waiting for a hot drop, that will only happen, IF the enemy has even more.




Sure. It's so easy to throw up an ihub, upgrade, an outpost with a refinery, POS for the booster....

All to have yet another cloaky camper show up and shut down that system too.


You clearly have no freakin' clue what you are talking about.

What they should really do is remove your advanced warning systems i.e. local chat. That solves your problem of AFK cloakers... that you know are in your system....

No ship should be unprobable, and no ship would be able to ECCM 1000 people trying to get it.

Sure, it could just warp fro new safe to new safe... but at least that would be work.

Correct... there should not be ANY null industry!

Because that would be the result of removing local.

Love to kill a claoky camper.

How do I find him?

Did you see me say AFK anywhere?

Correct... there should not be ANY null industry!

Because that would be the result of removing local.

LOL What part of "upgraded system" did you not udnerstand.

and when the cloaky comes, in move again. They will tire before you do.

Thats what i do. i fit MWD+ cloak and stuff some projective ammo in my Dominix (i call the "moving Van") and just go live in a backwater system till the cloaky gets tired. If he follows, i keep moving. Never have i lost a ship this way, i've gotten a few kills when i've taken a sabre alt and bubbled the gate and decloked the cloaky.

What is the argument against CONCORD, high sec stations, NPC corps? Right... you get all this protection without even working for it.


Well, the same argument can be made against the current cloaky camper mechanic. You don't have to do anything for the safety of the cloak. You warp somewhere at range, align toward nothing... and you are 100% immune to EVERYTHING. There is nothing anyone can do to find you, de-cloak you, kill you.

1000 people doing everything in their power to try to find you, and you are 100% totally immune and safe.

Heck, at least in high sec you are still at risk of the suicide gank. Cloaky camping in null? NOTHING can be done to you.

LOL What part of "upgraded system" did you not udnerstand.
and when the cloaky comes, in move again. They will tire before you do.

for your ore, thats why there are ships with things called JUMP DRIVES. etc etc

This prove my point, you simply don't want to use the tools the game gives you, you want a short cut (ie a way to go after the cloaky). You don't deserve and the game doesn't need a short cut, it' needs creative players who figure stuff out.

Thats what i do. i fit MWD+ cloak and stuff some projective ammo in my Dominix (i call the "moving Van") and just go live in a backwater system till the cloaky gets tired. If he follows, i keep moving. Never have i lost a ship this way, i've gotten a few kills when i've taken a sabre alt and bubbled the gate and decloked the cloaky.

As is usualyl the case, the problem isn't the game mechanic, it's EVe player laziness.

Have you ever been a null industrialist? The alliance rents out most of the systems, and you are not allowed to go into them. They set aside one or two for the alliance industry. You can't just go anywhere you want.

You assume only one cloaky. Last time I was in null, every system for 12 jumps in any direction had a single cloaky camper sitting in it.

And you expect 100 man corp to all do this? Again, you've clearly never been an null industrialist.

With the new patch just round the corner and mining/indy being a big part of it should ccp do something to cloaky ships to stop afk cloakys destroying the game?


defo something should be done.


yes +1

Have you ever been a null industrialist? The alliance rents out most of the systems, and you are not allowed to go into them. They set aside one or two for the alliance industry. You can't just go anywhere you want.

.

This prove my point, you simply don't want to use the tools the game gives you, you want a short cut .. what like tags for secstat.?

They appear on the overview when they're about to do something.

Since industry is being done in locations that a cloaker can't reach or affect, no, it really wouldn't.

The only people effected by AFK Cloakers are bots.