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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
452
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:34:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:LifeHatesMe wrote:maybe some kind of faction spawn that has the ability to find cloaky ships... that way the camper is rewarded for his efforts and being at there computer.. but if away at work or doing the gf or whatever.. then oh dear ccp don't like you affecting other players away from your computer.. Fail. Still makes the cloaky perfectly safe. If anyone is perfectly safe, then EVE is not EVE.
Like sitting in station?
-áImmersion = gameplayer self worth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEPP3YQcxQ |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
197
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:36:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Neut bopped into local, comms perked up with "PAY ATTENTION!" The argument was, cloaked ships don't show up in local after being cloaked for awhile. The problem with the spider web is that the last ship to warp loses its web before getting into warp. We're all aligned and at max webbed speed... warp... oh crud, you warped, deactivating the web on me.. and I'm not at max speed any more. Fail.
Fleetwarp is an amazing thing. Everyone pointed in the same direction, near everyone, and at max speed...all warp at basically the same time!
It's amazing I know, what happens when you play a multiplayer game with others!
As for your oft repeated "perfectly safe" mantra....explain how. The second a cloaked ship puts itself in a position to influence your game in any way, it is no longer safe. A cloaked ship on grid with you risks getting force-decloaked and popped. A cloaked ship is safer from you, but suffers in many other ways to pay for that safety.
Using this argument, we should be able to force station traders to undock, as they're perfectly safe sitting in station, and impact my game a helluva lot more than some AFk cloakdude sitting in a system I'm working.
Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
641
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:51:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote: The second a cloaked ship puts itself in a position to influence your game
Fail
He influences the game by being in a ship, in space, in the same solar system that I am in. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
641
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:53:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Fleetwarp is an amazing thing. Everyone pointed in the same direction, near everyone, and at max speed...all warp at basically the same time!
And shockingly, "basically" is not "exactly". Have you actually ever tried the spider web to mine aligned? I have. Even with fleet warp, someone gets left behind when the ship that was webbing him goes into warp before him.
Makes me think you're just spewing out your stink hole, since you clearly haven't actually done it. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
641
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:57:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Using this argument, we should be able to force station traders to undock, as they're perfectly safe sitting in station, and impact my game a helluva lot more than some AFk cloakdude sitting in a system I'm working.
Station traders are not perfectly safe. They make losing trades ALL the time.
And, sorry, I was shortening the oft' repeated argument for brevity. NO one in EVE is perfectly safe, if they are in a ship in space.... EXCEPT the cloaky camper that doesn't want to be found.
If anyone in a ship in space, is perfectly safe, then EVE isn't EVE, because the only key factor that makes EVE different from other games is that no one (in a ship in space) is every safe from being attacked.... EVER.... except cloaky campers are. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:58:00 -
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Yes, CCP. Please give us the answer to AFK cloaking. Make my cloaky ship able to actually engage weapons and EWAR while under cloak, so that I can actually harm defenseless miners while I'm sitting here, as opposed to not harming them at all while AFK cloaked. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6304
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:00:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Seth Mortis wrote:
Completely disallowing cloaky camping isnt the way to go, but it should come with a price or backside.
The cloaky ship must be at risk, or EVE is not EVE. THE KEY feature of EVE, I am told, is that no one is safe anywhere. So, the cloaky mechanics means EVE is not EVE.
Cloaky ships are among the most fragile ships in EVE. |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1025
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:06:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:He influences the game by being in a ship, in space, in the same solar system that I am in.
Only because you let him influence you. Just minimize local, it'll all work itself out in the end.
CCP has no sense of humour. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1637
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:19:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Using this argument, we should be able to force station traders to undock, as they're perfectly safe sitting in station, and impact my game a helluva lot more than some AFk cloakdude sitting in a system I'm working. Station traders are not perfectly safe. They make losing trades ALL the time. And, sorry, I was shortening the oft' repeated argument for brevity. NO one in EVE is perfectly safe, if they are in a ship in space.... EXCEPT the cloaky camper that doesn't want to be found. If anyone in a ship in space, is perfectly safe, then EVE isn't EVE, because the only key factor that makes EVE different from other games is that no one (in a ship in space) is every safe from being attacked.... EVER.... except cloaky campers are.
AFK cloakers are not perfectly safe. In order to get to the location where they are going afk they must go through gates. It's remarkably easy to kill a bomber or recon on a gate once you know what you are doing. |
Wodensun
ZeroSec
101
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:20:00 -
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Pffft not this again...
people bitching about AFK cloaks since ... since I came here...
Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident... |
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Malak Dawnfire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:29:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Onomerous wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Seth Mortis wrote:
Completely disallowing cloaky camping isnt the way to go, but it should come with a price or backside.
The cloaky ship must be at risk, or EVE is not EVE. THE KEY feature of EVE, I am told, is that no one is safe anywhere. So, the cloaky mechanics means EVE is not EVE. How is someone in a station at risk? NERF STATIONS!
Yes. Make it so we can send in elite DUST troopers into Stations and kill Capsuleers while they sleep! |
Gejja Tokan
Lighting the blight
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:30:00 -
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remove local, delay cynos
hurrdurrsameaseveryyear |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:30:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
In fact, here's an easy trick to pull for you singleplayer EVE folks. Feel free to shoot it down if technically impossible. Figure out all the likely approaches to your belt. Drop drag bubbles. Fill them with trash to decloak. Start mining.
They should just mine from inside the bubble. Since it's apparently a certainty that the AFK cloaker will kill them, and no miner has ever escaped a hot drop in the whole history of EVE, knowing that they don't even have the option of warping away from the word go will free their minds and set them at ease. |
ISquishWorms
201
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:03:00 -
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-1 Cloaking is fine and working as intended.
I suggest you adapt if it is causing you concerns.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:09:00 -
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ISquishWorms wrote:-1 Cloaking is fine and working as intended. I suggest you adapt if it is causing you concerns. OP's tears make me want to train cloaking so I can AFK cloak. 
You really don't even have to cloak to interrupt them. Just enter system, and the moment you're in local they go scurrying like roaches when the lights come on. |
LifeHatesMe
SKULLDOGS
S2N Citizens
11
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:33:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:ISquishWorms wrote:-1 Cloaking is fine and working as intended. I suggest you adapt if it is causing you concerns. OP's tears make me want to train cloaking so I can AFK cloak. You really don't even have to cloak to interrupt them. Just enter system, and the moment you're in local they go scurrying like roaches when the lights come on.
and you don't in your bling ratting ship |
Jita isa Pain
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:43:00 -
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FALCON |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3581
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Posted - 2013.05.11 02:31:00 -
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I should go afk somewhere with my cloak on.
I need to see who I'm allowed to do this to, to avoid causing Incidents.
I am a nullsec zealot. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4950
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Posted - 2013.05.11 02:36:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I should go afk somewhere with my cloak on.
I need to see who I'm allowed to do this to, to avoid causing Incidents.
I've missed your posting. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3581
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Posted - 2013.05.11 02:47:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:I should go afk somewhere with my cloak on.
I need to see who I'm allowed to do this to, to avoid causing Incidents. I've missed your posting.
I was unsubbed, sorry.
I am a nullsec zealot. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2187
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Posted - 2013.05.11 04:27:00 -
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Quote:16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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