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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Snappers
I agree with you there Dianabolic, FA did go about it wrong, they could have had MC + every other merc out there war dec you, but as the story goes, they decided the boredom tactic was the best way to deal with it
/emote cries over the missed oppertunity to gank Dianbolic in a giant hauler...  
No. The latest theory is that I'm Blacklight's alt, which is an intereting change from me being Cyvok's alt. Random people still shout, "Seleene! Hey baby!!" in local though, so not much has changed. 
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ponieus
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Snappers
I agree with you there Dianabolic, FA did go about it wrong, they could have had MC + every other merc out there war dec you, but as the story goes, they decided the boredom tactic was the best way to deal with it
/emote cries over the missed oppertunity to gank Dianbolic in a giant hauler...
No. The latest theory is that I'm Blacklight's alt, which is an intereting change from me being Cyvok's alt. Random people still shout, "Seleene! Hey baby!!" in local though, so not much has changed.
wait wait wait.. i thought you were BL alt/?..
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Corey Grim
Originally by: Snappers
Then BoB went against Fountain Alliance which was 99.99% a 'production' alliance which focused mainly on production and mining in my eyes.
actually thats not true at all. in my knowledge Before BoB attacked FA there was "couple" of good PvP corporations in FA... they left FA not becouse they get pwned by BoB but becouse lack of support for the industrial side what was very strong in FA. this of course doesnt lessen BoB¦s success.
This is just what i have heard/read in several places.
A much better description indeed.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.10.12 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Snappers
its just a general eve-players view on how things may turn out eventually.
Do the "general eve-player" believe BoB will choose friends and targets according to their wishes and their postings on the forum?
Then you must be beyond help and not only you but everyone else who in the last months have told us to make attack our friends.
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:12:00 -
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bob & five are friends.
I'm wondering why we are so popular nowadays? Why so much forum warriors here against bob&five? Can anyone answer this?
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The Siren
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hastrabull
bob & five are friends.
I'm wondering why we are so popular nowadays? Why so much forum warriors here against bob&five? Can anyone answer this?
Kinda like the tom and jerry cartoon's of old. The dog would chase tom around all day tom would see the mouse and place the mouse (jerry) inbetween the dog and himself hoping the dog would take out the mouse and ignore the cat. Same idea.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/10/2005 12:26:45
Originally by: Snappers
This is meant in the most respectfull way possible, but my conclusion on what BoB has done is somewhat lessened when iv actually thought about it properly.
BoB v FIX - The end result was a nap between both of you.
BoB v PA - PA still exsists even tho it was hurt bad.
Then BoB went against Fountain Alliance which was 99.99% a 'production' alliance which focused mainly on production and mining in my eyes.
Then Imperium - which was an alliance in its infancy when BoB declared war on them, which was then riddled with internal problems such as the leader having real life troubles etc.
I dont mean any disrespect to you or any of your achievments, you have taken down or hurt two alliances quite badly, but if you look at it from the ground up then BoB has chosen to attack very easy targets after the FIX campaign.
Hmm this argument doesnt hold water....
Lets assume BoB are out to 'win' EVE.
*What I write here is my own point of view only.*
As I understand it BoB first came from the north after PA had basically been reduced to rubble and ashes. BoB possilbly ran out of things to do in the north, so their attention turned south. Their first port of call was indeed FIX.
FIX then met its most fearsome foe to date. I mean you could time your watch, by the time of day at which BoB would send a big fleet down to Queriuos. FIX would put up an equal size fleet and go to meet them immediately. Sometimes we fared k, sometimes not, but always it was a learning experience. This went on for at least a month or more. It seemed however that the BoB strategy was not so much to take Querious but to have some good battles. Then again why would you want to take querious when some of the best regions in the game lay to the west ripe for the taking.
A mutual respect grew out of the BoB <> FIX engagements, culminating in a friendship between the two, we even shared a FIXBOB channel towards the end of the fighting. 
BoB then took over FA space and has simply started working its way clockwise round the map, taking on whoever stands in their path. Be they easy or difficult to take on.
Why they are doing this, I do not know, this is just what I have seen. I suppose if you wanted to know who is next, you can just look at the map 
Maybe if BoB manages to take the whole of the known 0.0 universe, they would then take the fight to CCP itself .....
Either way I'd say that if anybody was to 'win' EVE, I wouldnt wish it to a more organised and amiable group of players. Put it this way I wouldnt mind if BoB won 'everything', you can bet your bottom isk that they would have earnt it.......
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Alphamarine
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 12/10/2005 09:34:58
Actually on friday night, BoB and Five will be changing places for 6 weeks in a new BBC2 reality TV show called "Celebrity Region Swap" to be hosted by Dale Winton.
Viewers will get to see how BoB handle RAs POS War strategy and how The Five will cope with space riddled with NPC stations and a bunch of alliances that just haven't stopped breathing yet.
Man i love this post , made me laugh out loud , grats Fi 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Alphamarine
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 12/10/2005 09:34:58
Actually on friday night, BoB and Five will be changing places for 6 weeks in a new BBC2 reality TV show called "Celebrity Region Swap" to be hosted by Dale Winton.
Viewers will get to see how BoB handle RAs POS War strategy and how The Five will cope with space riddled with NPC stations and a bunch of alliances that just haven't stopped breathing yet.
Man i love this post , made me laugh out loud , grats Fi
/signed..
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:57:00 -
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When do we switch?
can i come to fountain to farm some serpentis npcs? i need named hybrids for my mega :)
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Ellezarr
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Posted - 2005.10.12 13:56:00 -
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Quote:
Maybe if BoB manages to take the whole of the known 0.0 universe, they would then take the fight to CCP itself .....
no need for ^^^^
Bob IS CCP..
/me back to smaller amounts of nicotine..
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.10.12 14:03:00 -
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if i start shooting bob how will i steal ships from twd
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.12 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
...perhaps you have nothing anyone would take you on over.
Like two of the five best isk making regions in the game? 
I did not say you didn't have anything worth taking. I said perhaps you have nothing anyone would take you on over.
Having a Mercedes, doesn't automatically mean someone is going to steal it.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:02:00 -
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If anyone is truly interested in getting a Dianabolic corpse, please deposit 50 million isk into my wallet and I will snap before and after pictures of the little POS fuel fairy getting whats coming to him.
Dian, if you should wish to pay me 50 million isk, you'll get the best night of sweet sweet love there ever was to be had.
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Regma
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
If anyone is truly interested in getting a Dianabolic corpse, please deposit 50 million isk into my wallet and I will snap before and after pictures of the little POS fuel fairy getting whats coming to him.
Dian, if you should wish to pay me 50 million isk, you'll get the best night of sweet sweet love there ever was to be had.
Can you do it for 5 mil?
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:16:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Seleene
/emote cries over the missed oppertunity to gank Dianbolic in a giant hauler...
lalalalala hahahaha FEAR MY FRIDGE!
Originally by: Snappers
But i would like to see a reply from you with my prior post about looking at BoB from the ground up.
The way I see it, Sobaseki, is there are two polarised views of "BoB". There are those who slate us at every opportunity, no matter what we do, and there are those that respect us.
On the slating side we have people who have failed to match us at any point in anything we do (I'm not gonna list names, I can't be bothered with the flames, but they know who they are) and have screamed everything from exploit to lame to gank because we've beat them down.
On the second side we have those that respect us, we return that respect to a man. We've fought them all (including most of 5) at some point in our individual and corporate careers. The latter group all know their limitations, they earn our respect because they push them time and time again. They won't use the "boredom" tactic, they won't logon trap you, if you agree to a 1v1 then 99.9% of the time it will be honoured.
The latter groups play this as a GAME, the former, it would seem, play it as something else. Sure, people have different playstyles and all that jazz, but ours is the dominant one. Why? Because that's how CCP intended it. We put our uber mods, our implanted clones, our faction ships on the line every day of every week and when we die, we shrug and get on with it.
How does that look from the ground up? I have no idea. I respected BoB from fighting them, it's why I joined - I respect a few other groups in this game, that respect is earnt from not being afraid to fail. We don't like losing but, without loss, what is victory?
I don't disagree with any of that. As a PvP Alliance, BoB has proven itself as the 10-ton Monkey. In the past, they have executed well-thought-out plans and fielded the numbers to make those plans successful.
Much like Real Life, warfare in EVE is changing. 5 is currently getting a First Hand Lesson in these changes. They are learning some valuable lessons that... in the end, will make them a more powerful combat force.
BoB has proven that it can field a 100+ ship fleet, virtually any time it wants, and deploy it anywhere in the EVE Universe. In the past, that is all you needed to take control a region.
Now-a-days, that 100+ ship fleet doesn't buy you as much as it used to. Successful Alliances are those that change with the time and implement new strategies. BoB has yet to prove itself in this new era of combat.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 12/10/2005 15:26:07
I beg to differ, I believe that it is BoB that has forced this new warfare to come about. We are one of the driving forces behind this change. We are innovators.
I was going to say "not wanting to sound arrogant" before this post, but i think that's unavoidable, despite it not being my intention.
My two pence.
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:26:00 -
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why dont all the people that know how BoB works fight us ? makes us all one happy bunch 
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: HC MasiEEE
why dont all the people that know how BoB works fight us ? makes us all one happy bunch
Probably don't have the conquest mentality. BoB is about the only alliance that I can recall that actively destroys other alliances. One could say that makes BoB the ultimate pirate organization.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
why dont all the people that know how BoB works fight us ? makes us all one happy bunch
Probably don't have the conquest mentality. BoB is about the only alliance that I can recall that actively destroys other alliances. One could say that makes BoB the ultimate pirate organization.
Destroy other alliances?
Impossible.
We just relocate them to Empire space.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.10.12 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
The way I see it, Sobaseki, is there are two polarised views of "BoB". There are those who slate us at every opportunity, no matter what we do, and there are those that respect us.
On the slating side we have people who have failed to match us at any point in anything we do (I'm not gonna list names, I can't be bothered with the flames, but they know who they are) and have screamed everything from exploit to lame to gank because we've beat them down.
On the second side we have those that respect us, we return that respect to a man. We've fought them all (including most of 5) at some point in our individual and corporate careers. The latter group all know their limitations, they earn our respect because they push them time and time again.
Not entirely true. I've never fought you guys, I've never had anything taken by you guys. Hell, I've never even been to Fountain. I know of no "cheap" tactics you guys have used, and really don't care.
But I still don't like you guys.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:11:00 -
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I'm hurt.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:12:00 -
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I reckon 5 and BoB should merge into one just to annoy all the forum flamers. Would be funny, for a while :P
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin Kineli
But I still don't like you guys.
lol, fair enough Gavin, you finding frontier tech more welcoming than BIG?
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:17:00 -
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Only if we can call ourselves SpongeBob Five-bellies.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Gavin Kineli
But I still don't like you guys.
lol, fair enough Gavin, you finding frontier tech more welcoming than BIG?
Yes, it's a nice change of pace.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:33:00 -
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At a point it just becomes hop scotch unless BoB swells to 8000+ active members.
I mean, defending it the hard part aint it?
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:35:00 -
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Seems that I am not the only one that sees things for what they are.
Cheers,
Hooch, BoB lover, Prophet, and Friend of all
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 12/10/2005 15:26:15
I beg to differ, I believe that it is BoB that has forced this new warfare to come about. We are one of the driving forces behind this change. We are innovators.
I was going to say "not wanting to sound arrogant" before this post, but i think that's unavoidable, despite it not being my intention.
My two pence.
Yawn, more self serving drivel.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 12/10/2005 15:26:15
I beg to differ, I believe that it is BoB that has forced this new warfare to come about. We are one of the driving forces behind this change. We are innovators.
I was going to say "not wanting to sound arrogant" before this post, but i think that's unavoidable, despite it not being my intention.
My two pence.
Yawn, more self serving drivel.
Yawn, more bitterness from mr Star Trek.
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