Notice how every time anyone, anywhere in the world, wants to give n example of a mighty battleship, they invoke the name of the USS Missouri.

I'm not one of those "Mericuh! F**k yeah!" kind of Americans.... but recognize that this nation of mutts I call home, built the single most destructive conventional weapon in the history of mankind.... :)

Honestly, if you want an example of a top-of-the-line real-world battleship, you name the Yamato, Musashi or Bismarck.

Notice how every time anyone, anywhere in the world, wants to give n example of a mighty battleship, they invoke the name of the USS Missouri.

I'm not one of those "Mericuh! F**k yeah!" kind of Americans.... but recognize that this nation of mutts I call home, built the single most destructive conventional weapon in the history of mankind.... :)

Bismarck got sunk by a British battlecruiser.

The Bizzy's pilot prolly just didn't train up his support skills before he got in it, though :p
As for the Yamato... the two could have gone toe-to-toe, during WWII, but when the Mo got her refit in the 80's, it was (and still is) the single most powerful ship in history.

Bismarck got sunk by a British battlecruiser.

The Bizzy's pilot prolly just didn't train up his support skills before he got in it, though :p
As for the Yamato... the two could have gone toe-to-toe, during WWII, but when the Mo got her refit in the 80's, it was (and still is) the single most powerful ship in history.

If you want to argue the "most powerful ships in history", the list would be entirely populated by Japanese and American aircraft carriers. That or Russian nuclear subs, depending on how you decided to measure power.

something i have thought about for some time, but never asked. Why are our big nasty ships soo under gunned?
I know alot of people are gonna think im nutz (its ok i kinda am lol)

Hear me out first....On our precious little rock the battleship era ended with WW2 (mostly i know we in the US used them a bit longer)

Those ships had BIG guns, medium guns and AA guns. Massive numbers of them too

Example....USS Missouri
Displacement:45,000 tons
Length:887.2 ft (270.4 m)
Beam:108.2 ft (33.0 m)

Weapon Systems (1940's)
9 +ù 16 in (406 mm)/50 cal Mark 7 guns
20 +ù 5 in (127 mm)/38 cal Mark 12 guns
80 +ù 40 mm/56 cal anti-aircraft guns
49 +ù 20 mm/70 cal anti-aircraft cannons

1984
9 +ù 16 in (406 mm)/50 cal Mark 7 guns
12 +ù 5 in (127 mm)/38 cal Mark 12 guns
32 +ù B G M-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles
16 +ù R G M-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles
4 +ù 20 mm/76 cal Phalanx C I W S

This vessel is about the size (in length ) as a Coercer(278 m), has guns as big 406 mm (Very near eve's biggest rail gun)

quickly to the point i guess (gotta go to work lol)

Other than the KISS plan (keep it simple stupid) why are our ships so under gunned.

The Bismarck wasn't sunk by a battlecruiser. It was maimed by a very lucky torpedo bomber, and then finished off by a battlecruiser while it could barely even turn.

It was finished off by two battleships, two heavy cruisers and a few destroyers, one of which was Polish.

Notice how every time anyone, anywhere in the world, wants to give an example of a mighty battleship, they invoke the name of the USS Missouri.

I'm not one of those "Mericuh! F**k yeah!" kind of Americans.... but recognize that this nation of mutts I call home, built the single most destructive conventional weapon in the history of mankind.... :)

Honestly, if you want an example of a top-of-the-line real-world battleship, you name the Yamato, Musashi or Bismarck.

Bismarck was smaller then the Missouri, smaller guns, armor and boat.. and if it wasn't for the weakness of the British Hood it would have gone down as silent as its sister Tirpitz...

It was probably the most influential battleship ever constructed, as it caused the freaking Royal Navy to panic.

You didn't, you are right that many Americans are nuts and ignorant tho.

The Japanese Yamato-class had almost twice the displacement of the Missouri.. So that's almost twice your tonnage and 2 of the class were built.

Notice how every time anyone, anywhere in the world, wants to give an example of a mighty battleship, they invoke the name of the USS Missouri.

Notice how every time anyone, anywhere in the world, wants to give an example of a mighty battleship, they invoke the name of the USS Missouri.

I'm not one of those "Mericuh! F**k yeah!" kind of Americans.... but recognize that this nation of mutts I call home, built the single most destructive conventional weapon in the history of mankind.... :)

Not a fan of the Vanguard design.

I prefer the HMS Nelson from an aesthetic point of view.

Oh, sooooo marvellously elegant. How do the Brits do it? Must be something in the water?

Oh, sooooo marvellously elegant. How do the Brits do it? Must be something in the water?

I honestly liked the look of the Yamato. Something about the bridge superstructure just does it for me.